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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > BSS: Bisexual Super Son > Marvel Comics Megathread: Empyrean Appreciation Station
 
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DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Dawgstar posted:

Mysterio found out that the current Spider-Man was a clone and didn't see any point in beating a carbon copy
Of course, this would've been after said carbon copy had already beaten Mysterio and shut down MysteryVision, his mind control TV channel. But sure, Quentin, we'll go with that.

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DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

Air Skwirl posted:

Ned Leeds was killed in Wolverine vs Spider-Man because the writer of that hated the idea of Hobgoblin being Leeds.
The best part is that Hobgoblin was never even supposed to be Ned Leeds, even after his creator Roger Stern left and told Tom DeFalco to just basically do whatever. DeFalco didn't like Stern's original idea of Roderick Kingsley being the Hobgoblin, so he decided it would be Richard Fisk. Then he got removed from The Amazing Spider-Man by editor Christopher Priest, or Jim Owsley as he was known back then.

Priest asked DeFalco who the Hobgoblin was, and DeFalco (who didn't get along with Priest even before he got taken off TASM) lied about it being Leeds. Priest then went on to write the Spider-Man vs. Wolverine oneshot, in which Leeds is killed by the Foreigner's men. After that, Priest told Peter David to reveal the Foreigner as the real Hobgoblin, but David argued that didn't really make sense and that Leeds was the only one who it could realistically be. So, because Spider-Man vs. Wolverine had already been drawn, they posthumously revealed Ned Leeds to have been the Hobgoblin and moved on with Jason Macendale as the new Hobgoblin.

Of course, Stern came back years later for Hobgoblin Lives to establish Kingsley as the real Hobgoblin and Ned as his fall guy, and that was that. Or so I thought, because apparently they brought Ned back and made him an actual Hobgoblin a few years ago. Comic books!

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DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

 Should probably note that Spider-Man vs. Wolverine (the one where Ned Leeds dies) is not the same book as Wolverine vs. Spider-Man (the Erik Larsen one) because even I'm getting confused here. :v:

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DMorbid
Jan 6, 2011

With our special guest star, RUSH! YAYYYYYYYYY

 That's Spider-Man vs. Wolverine. Wolverine vs. Spider-Man has the wall of exposition that was posted earlier, and Savage Dragon Fin is also in it.

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