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504 posted:Every thing is hosed, the environment is coming apart, more and more people believe the ridiculous poo poo we thought we dropped hundreds of years ago and the majority of people will actively resist painfully obvious good things if they are not thought up by "their" side in the political game. Everything in this post is true, but it's also true that this is the time in history where the average person almost anywhere on the planet is by far the best off as far as living conditions and access to medicine and just general wealth goes. The environment getting hosed is a really legitimate concern, however. I'm not an optimist in general at all, but most of the indicators are still looking positive for our species as a whole.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 08:29 |
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Mozi posted:Do you think we would be here today if the Dark Ages never happened and somehow we all got nukes a few hundred years ago, or if climate change started ramping up in the 1500s instead of now? Climate change won't be able to destroy us, just reduce our living area a lot. Nuclear warfare is a real issue, but it won't be forever. All these things are real problems, but they are also not permanent. Either we last through them, or we won't. All will be as it should be either way.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 14:28 |
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Mozi posted:Let's regroup in 10,000 years and I'll give you 20 bucks if I was wrong. It's a deal.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 14:38 |
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, this is technically true, climate change will destroy a lot of us, and nuclear war indeed cannot happen more than once in rapid succession. The first one is already a reality, there's nothing we can do to stop it at this point, just mitigate the damage. It's not an extinction level event however. Nuclear war could easily be, but there's no reason to believe that it would remain so for the next thousands of years.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 17:10 |
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not sure that "may not kill literally everyone immediately" is cause for optimism about the future either... People die. It's going to be something either way. As long as we don't all die, I'm optimistic, because life is better now than it has ever been.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2018 17:13 |
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Thus, humanity won't die out, but will instead limp along in a permanent lovely pre-industrial feudal state until the planet literally becomes incapable of sustaining human life in the far, far future. Our planet has enough time in it before it becomes impossible for life to exist that the entire oil reserves of the planet we've used can replenish like five times over in that time, and what are currently fishes or whatever can evolve into land dwelling things with huge brains to repeat our mistakes. There's no way humanity will exist that long, but all this can definitely happen again no matter what we do to the planet. In fact looking at the stats some more something on the complexity level of humans could evolve from bacteria existing currently while the planet is still habitable. Nurge fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Jul 14, 2018 |
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