|
Slavic Crime Yacht posted:The sky goal being: Well, uh... yeah, those two are actually the same thing. So this whole thread came about because I was bitching in Discord about one of my senators' staff being pretty terrible. I'm sure you're all already familiar with how I got hosed previously, but this is really about how I and every other war widow(er) in the United States are getting hosed over. So here's the story: As the surviving spouse of a service member who died in the line of duty, I'm entitled to a DOD benefit called the Survivor Benefit Plan (SBP). SBP is primarily for the surviving spouse of a retiree, the idea being is that the retiree buys into it so their spouse can keep getting their retirement after they pass. SBP is granted automatically when a service member dies LOD. It's based on how much the retiree was making or, in the case of an LOD death, how much their retirement would have been worth at the time they died. I'm also entitled to a VA benefit called Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC). DIC is primarily for the surviving spouse of a veteran who dies of a service connected condition and is also granted automatically when a service member dies LOD. DIC is non-taxable, SBP is taxable. When a surviving spouse is eligible for both, every dollar of DIC received is deducted from their SBP benefit. In a lot of cases, DIC is larger than SBP. In 2008 Congress agreed that this was bullshit and authorized the Special Spouse Indemnity Allowance (SSIA). The initial amount was $50 per month (lol get hosed), increasing gradually until it reached its cap of $275 a month. SSIA was designed to expire at the end of FY 2017 because it was a stop-gap measure designed to give surviving spouses SOMETHING while still giving time for Congress to find a way to get rid of the SBP-DIC offset permanently. The 2018 NDAA raised SSIA to $310 a month, said it get an annual cost of living increase, and made it permanent. In the aftermath of this, a number of veterans and Gold Star organizations started getting told that Congress now considered the SBP-DIC offset issue fixed. gently caress that. I've been trying to get my congressfuckers to act on this. Just before Memorial Day, I wrote a pleading message to each asking them to push for a repeal in lieu of issuing Memorial Day platitudes. One of my senators told me that a bill to get rid of the offset was in committee and there's nothing she can do for now (because United States Senators can't raise public awareness of issues when bills are in committee, apparently). The other senator sent me a form letter thanking me for my interest in the 2019 NDAA. I have some contacts in his office that I used to say "hey, this is a bullshit answer what gives" and I received an email in response that basically said "not loving over war widows is really expensive and we need to be mindful of spending." Given that they sent me that email on what would have been my fourth wedding anniversary, I got pissed and wrote back saying "wrong answer, I'm now going to be a thorn in your side until I hear directly from the senator on this." My congressman has yet to respond. Fucker. At the recommendation of you fuckers in Discord, I wrote a short version of this to my local paper. Let's see what happens there. Oh, and lol at this bullshit:
|
# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 23:41 |
|
|
# ¿ May 16, 2024 09:31 |
|
gently caress you, McNally, where's my t-shirt?
|
# ¿ Jul 6, 2018 23:45 |
|
Nostalgia4Infinity posted:What’s the status of this bill? Has it passed the House? Is it in committee there? You’ve basically got till the end of the year to get it voted on. If might be better to lobby for it when the new Congress is seated in January. House and Senate both introduce a bill to get rid of the offset at the beginning of every Congress for the past decade. They always die in committee.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 00:06 |
|
For now, start contacting your congresscritters on the issue. Not sure what phase 2 is yet, but I'm sure we'll get there.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 00:34 |
|
The House bill is H.R. 846 and the Senate bill is S. 339 Also the senator who responded back with "the bill is in committee" mentioned S. 1990 which, unless I'm reading it wrong, doesn't actually eliminate the offset. So good job, dipshits.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 00:44 |
|
McNally posted:The House bill is H.R. 846 and the Senate bill is S. 339 Yeah, I went back and read the e-mail I got from the senator and it's absolutely clear that this is a form letter that has nothing at all to do with what I was talking about. S. 1990 is about increasing the amount of DIC compensation. Which is nice, sure, but that's an issue separate from the offset (not everyone eligible for one is eligible for the other). Goddamnit, I'm pissed all over again now.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 00:51 |
|
Nostalgia4Butts posted:We got a form letter we can mail out? I'll write one. I'll even try to keep the gently caress yous to a minimum.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 01:00 |
|
McNally posted:I'll write one. I'll even try to keep the gently caress yous to a minimum. quote:Dear useless legislator: Feel free to clean this up as you need to. I'm still fuming a little.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 01:12 |
|
Seekhay posted:The fact that you haven’t set fire to Congress is a testament to your level of self control and character. It helps that I'm inherently lazy.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 01:51 |
|
Wasabi the J posted:Can we get a script? I'm really bad at understanding how to say this in a quick phone call to my reps Is (Congressfucker/Senatefucker So-and-so) aware that the government is making war widows pay the cost of their own survivor benefits?
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 20:44 |
|
LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Do I get my T-shirt faster if I write my Congress critter? You won't not get your t-shirt faster.
|
# ¿ Jul 7, 2018 21:16 |
|
I decided to reach out to the Gary Sinise Foundation to see if they'll give any kind of a poo poo.
|
# ¿ Jul 10, 2018 01:05 |
|
I posted on Gary Sinise's Facebook page. Probably won't get his attention but I did get likes and stuff from other people. Y'know, getting the word out there. And then there's this rear end in a top hat. gently caress this guy.
|
# ¿ Jul 14, 2018 20:12 |
|
I just got a phone call from someone from the senator who sent me an email about the wrong bill. Turns out that the bill they told me about is designed to just raise DIC by an amount that most people's offsets would be gone anyway, like a backdoor repeal of the offset. He apologized that neither their email nor the bill itself made it clearer that that was the intent. He also explained that the biggest hurdle to eliminating the offset is that nobody really agrees with how to get rid of it: Do we attack it from the VA side, the DOD side, or scrap it all and start over? Basically it's just Congress inaction in action.
|
# ¿ Jul 19, 2018 18:57 |
|
Viva Miriya posted:Anyone live in the Colorado 6th - McNally Mike Coffman of the Colorado's 6th District is the chairman of the House Armed Services subcommittee for Military Personnel. H.R. 846, a bill to repeal the SBP-DIC offset, has been sitting in that subcommittee since February 2017. H.R. 846 has 269 cosponsors. That's 60% of the House of Representatives. 60% of the House has cosigned this bill yet it's still in committee. Tomorrow I'm going to ask him why. I think we all should. DC office - 202.225.7882 District office - 720.748.7514
|
# ¿ Aug 3, 2018 00:38 |
|
McNally posted:Mike Coffman of the Colorado's 6th District is the chairman of the House Armed Services subcommittee for Military Personnel. H.R. 846, a bill to repeal the SBP-DIC offset, has been sitting in that subcommittee since February 2017. A summary of the conversation: "It hasn't been voted on yet." "Why?" "Because it hasn't. Do you live in this district?" "No, but I've been trying to get a response from my congressman on this issue for two months." "Keep trying."
|
# ¿ Aug 3, 2018 16:38 |
|
POOL IS CLOSED posted:No one wants to talk about the scheduling for voting on it. Nobody wants to actually vote for it. Cosponsoring bills is a great way to say "I support..." without the burden of actually having to support it.
|
# ¿ Aug 3, 2018 17:26 |
|
I had earlier mentioned getting an email from my other senator, the one I hadn't had two years worth of back and forth with, in response to my "hey make this issue a priority" email I sent on Memorial Day. I received an email about S.1990, a bill to increase the amount of the VA survivor benefit. I responded back with "this isn't what I'm talking about." I later got a phone call from a staffer who explained that the intent of the bill is to increase the VA compensation as kind of a backdoor around repealing the offset. I looked up the details of the bill and hahaha nope. The intent of the bill is to make military survivor benefits more similar to federal employee survivor benefits. Apparently I'd be getting a bigger check every month if my wife had been, say, an FBI agent killed in the line of duty or a Department of Agriculture employee who was crushed by a cow or whatever. S. 1990 wants to change the language of the Dependency Indemnity Compensation to be 55% of what a 100% disabled veteran receives. That's about another $300 or so dollars. So between that (which, let's be real, is not going to happen) and the $315 I'm getting from DOD as the special allowance aimed at recognizing the offset is crap to begin with would bring me to somewhere around half of what I'd be getting if they repealed the offset.
|
# ¿ Aug 6, 2018 20:38 |
|
madeintaipei posted:I do not mean to make light of anything here but if McNally isn't a Nightingale, he sure is a canary. The way I see it is this: We all know nobody actually gives a gently caress about ARE TROOPS. It follows that nobody gives a gently caress about the widow of the guy who died fighting for ARE FREEDOMS.
|
# ¿ Aug 6, 2018 21:13 |
|
Grem posted:I'm in the 6th District. Honestly man I'm super busy this time of year, here's what I'm planning on saying tomorrow sorry if it's way too boiled down. That's about what I wanted to say, but they didn't want to hear from me because I don't live in his district.
|
# ¿ Aug 7, 2018 03:53 |
|
Grem posted:Word, I'll go with that then. Eh, something about "Congress just authorized a DOD budget of $717 billion dollars, quit nickel and diming when it comes to taking care of those left behind when the people you send to war die."
|
# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 19:05 |
|
gently caress it https://www.gofundme.com/help-mcnally-get-tough-cookies
|
# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 20:07 |
|
madeintaipei posted:Dude, you already have enough to buy a pack of premium Pepperidge cookies. You're right, I should adjust the goal.
|
# ¿ Aug 9, 2018 21:10 |
|
Godholio posted:Let's make this poo poo go viral. lol should I change the url first?
|
# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 03:39 |
|
I get the best replies.
|
# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 03:51 |
|
Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Do we have a form letter we can send or something so it looks concerted? Dick Durbin is a useless turd but something tells me Tammy Duckworth might be a little more keen to listen. quote:Dear useless legislator: Clean it up as needed.
|
# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 06:11 |
|
Grem posted:Emailed Coffman. Should note he's a fantastic turd so I'm not expecting anything. If we're not pointing out that the federal budget is like 4.4 trillion dollars, so whats another ten billion then I don't know what we're doing.
|
# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 06:18 |
|
Liquid Communism posted:Well, I got the canned response, but it's at least topical. Things to ask: Since you're a member of this committee, why has it been just sitting in committee since February 2017? Especially considering 50% of the Senate cosponsored the bill. Why are you leaving out the fact that the SSIA is funded by Tricare fees, which surviving spouses also pay? Why are you leaving out the fact that the SSIA was never meant to be permanent and was, in fact, intended as a temporary band-aid while Congress was supposed to be working on a permanent end to the offset? Also thanks for reiterating what we already know.
|
# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 19:25 |
|
Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Alright I sent mine off to Duckworth and Quigley. Quigley didn't even have the "Veterans" option in the dropdown for his issues so I'm not real hopeful but I will report back if either of them sends me more than an "eat poo poo" form letter. This isn't really a veterans issue, but lol anyway.
|
# ¿ Aug 10, 2018 22:20 |
|
Grem posted:Hey Mike Coffman wrote me back! Jesus, at least when my congressfucker brushed me off, he did it with a paper letter that was longer than that. It said roughly the same thing, but still.
|
# ¿ Aug 12, 2018 15:18 |
|
Johnny Five-Jaces posted:Well Tammy got back to me. The relevant text: This email is full of poo poo. The 2018 NDAA didn't eliminate the offset, it made the SSIA permanent.
|
# ¿ Aug 14, 2018 20:27 |
|
Syrian Lannister posted:gently caress it. McNally just run for office change from the inside Can't I just raise funds without having to run for office?
|
# ¿ Aug 15, 2018 17:48 |
|
LtCol J. Krusinski posted:There’s always money in t-shirts. My CafePress says otherwise.
|
# ¿ Aug 15, 2018 18:28 |
|
I've been scanning letters and documents for Stars and Stripes and holy gently caress this poo poo's been flooding back. Like how the Army investigation and CID reports both claim the MPs just hosed off, but the MP report has information they couldn't have gotten if that were true. Also there were MPs at the hospital when I arrived (which jives with the MP report). I threw away the CID report in disgust, so I'm probably going to have to get another one.
|
# ¿ Aug 17, 2018 18:25 |
|
THE SAGA CONTINUES?! I got this email in the mail yesterday. Well, technically I was CC'd on this email. quote:CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED So I was a little concerned. I hit Reply All and wrote back. quote:What is the nature of this request for information? Is there something I should be aware of? I received this response today: quote:CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED I, knowing the Army as I do, felt this does not bode well (and will probably require me actually going to Fort Knox for the appointment), and replied thus: quote:I'm already receiving my annuity. Am I going to stop getting my annuity because nobody told me I had to fill out a form when I moved three years ago? So we'll see how this goes. That $310 a month is a fair chunk of my monthly income, so I hope it doesn't go away. McNally fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Aug 24, 2018 |
# ¿ Aug 24, 2018 20:30 |
|
I also got a reply from the Gary Sinise Foundation yesterday!quote:Dear Harry, Wow. I wasn't asking for legal help, I was asking for a louder voice. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Today's my birthday, I get to wonder if I'm losing a benefit because casualty assistance forgot to have me fill out a form two and a half years ago.
|
# ¿ Aug 25, 2018 18:14 |
|
It resumes.quote:CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED To recap, he gave me three phone numbers to call. The first one (which is also the phone number of the person he told me to specifically contact) goes to a voicemail box that is full and cannot accept any new voicemails. The second number I called on Friday. The third number is for the Casualty Assistance Center itself and I left a voicemail there, too. All for paperwork that I'm 99% sure is superfluous anyway: I don't qualify for any SBP because I receive DIC.
|
# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 16:51 |
|
loving Army. I thought I was finally loving done with all their bullshit.
|
# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 20:08 |
|
Turns out nobody told the Fort Knox Casualty Assistance Center that I'd moved into their AOR.
|
# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 21:40 |
|
|
# ¿ May 16, 2024 09:31 |
|
ded posted:Green Weenie never sleeps and never rests. It will eternally hunt for buttholes to probe. At some point you'd think it would move on. When I had a colonoscopy last month, the doctor just had me sit on a table with a hole in it and shone a flashlight up there. I'm just... so loving tired. Completely and utterly drained. At this point I'm pretty sure my benefits aren't going to change, but Jesus. I should become a hitman or something, because I could kill for a sense of financial security.
|
# ¿ Aug 27, 2018 23:15 |