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Lowtax posted:Yeah, I'm, in no way saying YouTube is a perfect service and run by compassionate CEOs who deeply care about each and every one of their video producers. They don't give a poo poo about anybody except their stockholders. They're a disgusting black box that would love to exploit and sap every drop of information they can get from all their users. Word. It's the same cycle of disillusionment that we all go through, it's just that 'toobers' go through it in a far more trite and embarrassing way. Perhaps they could be accused of tunnelvision, or tubelvision.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Word. It's the same cycle of disillusionment that we all go through, it's just that 'toobers' go through it in a far more trite and embarrassing way. Perhaps they could be accused of tunnelvision, or tubelvision.
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Lowtax posted:Yeah sure, let me just revenue split the $2.00 in ad revenue with 30 people who are aware their Photoshops might be in Photoshop Phriday or the Comedy Goldmine, two columns that haven't been updated in about a year. You should totally make a Phriday out of the Banker.bmp thread. poo poo owned.
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Lowtax posted:people chose that as a profession, and all the risks and factors of their job were well known in advance Yeah but at the same time it's one thing to "know" the risks and factors and its another to experience them - and also teenagers make idiot decisions  It's kinda like how I bet a lot of dudes would love to be a porn star even after being told they gotta do dick exercises and pop viagras a lot. But then 5-10 years later when their cardiac arrest sets in because their heart can't take anymore and sex long since became a grind to pay rent they are all "oh this is why." But yeah it's hard to care when people have real problems like how to pay medical bills and yeah they did pretty much get exactly what they signed up for. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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YouTube kids venting about dumb bullshit sure seems to be triggering. Argh! MILLENIALS! I, an older person, am wiser and more better! I worked hard! Why aren't they also work hard? Do hard labor youngs!!!!
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bag em and tag em posted:YouTube kids venting about dumb bullshit sure seems to be triggering. Something tells me you assume your humor is firing on all cylinders here...
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Lowtax posted:Well and if you're burned out by age 19, or you're worth $400 million and it burns you out, I really don't know what to say. I mean, Google didn't force anybody into the YouTube labor camps, people chose that as a profession, and all the risks and factors of their job were well known in advance. As much as I'd love to just say "lol capitalism," I honestly do not know what these people were expecting here. The problem isn't that they burn out at 19, creating videos full time while being a fake piece of poo poo who knows the Internet could turn on you at any time and that no one worth talking to will take you seriously once they know your job is probably stressful stuff. The problem is they are millionaires whining about the profession they chose to make themselves millionaires is stressful *and aren't just quitting *. If I was a multimillionaire but hayed my job now because I had so many experiences, I'd just quit. Take some time to myself and consider what I want to do next. Why bitch about it? You could retire at 19.
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Kitchner posted:The problem isn't that they burn out at 19, creating videos full time while being a fake piece of poo poo who knows the Internet could turn on you at any time and that no one worth talking to will take you seriously once they know your job is probably stressful stuff. something something capitalism is a religion and hyper accumulation is akin to worship unto Mammon let the souls of the wealthy molder and fester, let the cancerous snakes of guilt devour their innards place hand-grenades into the rectums of the profit apostles and march them into the desert
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So communism didn't in encourage people to do extra work or better work because everyone is equal. In capitalism, turns out people can and do anything to get more money. It's kinda divine comedy.Kitchner posted:If I was a multimillionaire but hayed my job now because I had so many experiences, I'd just quit. Take some time to myself and consider what I want to do next. Why bitch about it? You could retire at 19. Bitching video might get views, might make money. Well it will make money when you turn ads on. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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Tenzarin posted:So communism didn't in encourage people to do extra work or better work because everyone is equal. In capitalism, turns out people can and do anything to get more money. It's kinda divine comedy. Which communism are you referring to...?
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Which communism are you referring to...? I guess the one that had the Russian guy who created Tetris. And he saw no profits of the game until the USSR fell.
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bag em and tag em posted:YouTube kids venting about dumb bullshit sure seems to be triggering.
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Tenzarin posted:I guess the one that had the Russian guy who created Tetris. And he saw no profits of the game until the USSR fell. I mean, Russia modernized in less than 3 decades and won the majority of WW2 for everyone else, so I'm not going to say they have no gumption. USA has done its share to try to undermine their culture and state for 100 years so it's not like their hosed up version of mutated authoritarian collectivism was operating in a bubble.
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Lowtax posted:I'm assuming you find no inherent humor of professional YouTubers complaining that they're getting burnt out at 19. It's kinda funny but a lot of posts itt coming off as just real bitter
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bag em and tag em posted:It's kinda funny but a lot of posts itt coming off as just real bitter
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when i see this poo poo, i always think of doug walker because i know at some point he will probably off himself in a couple years. he was never that great but he found a gimmick and he pushed it so hard he made public video of him going into work and burning all the bridges to publicly quit. eventually he gets tired of the gimmick and tries something else, it was some drama comedy poo poo and it was awful. so he basically had to come back and do the gimmick forever. whats funnier is he was such a douchbag along with his brother and manager that he managed to piss off the rest of the talent and now he is basically alone. now 10 plus years on he is still shrieking and screaming about kids movies. the rest of the talent mostly matured sorta and make actual interesting poo poo. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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Jul 16, 2018 02:18
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Doug Walker is the grown up version of boss baby
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Putty posted:Doug Walker is the grown up version of boss baby yeah. the only good one there is brad jones but thats because he basically does it as hobby and can be naturally funny. doug is just kinda of a unfunny douche who got lucky. spoony got hosed up and is gone. ellis is still good but for mostly serious stuff, linkara is just poo poo. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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Aren’t a lot of people itt vastly overestimating the amount of money that even moderately popular YouTubers make? I keep seeing the word “millionaires” being thrown around, and it’s always been my understanding that those are maybe the top 0.001% of channels. Someone earlier said they got around $300 for about 2 million overall views. Do we actually know how much the “few hundreds of thousands of views per video, not popular enough to have decent brand deals, but popular enough to hawk loot crates and have a subreddit” types are making?
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Tenzarin posted:So communism didn't in encourage people to do extra work or better work because everyone is equal. Why you gotta do this in here man
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RoboCop 3 posted:Aren’t a lot of people itt vastly overestimating the amount of money that even moderately popular YouTubers make? I keep seeing the word “millionaires” being thrown around, and it’s always been my understanding that those are maybe the top 0.001% of channels.
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The idea that revenue is based on YouTube views is stupid. The money comes from people engaging with the ads, ala clicking them. Those who supposedly make millions or six figures are uploading on a daily basis, spewing codec compressed slime out of their orifices to get clicks via having as many clickable opportunities as possible. Please use adblock.
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RoboCop 3 posted:Aren’t a lot of people itt vastly overestimating the amount of money that even moderately popular YouTubers make? I keep seeing the word “millionaires” being thrown around, and it’s always been my understanding that those are maybe the top 0.001% of channels. Someone earlier said they got around $300 for about 2 million overall views. Do we actually know how much the “few hundreds of thousands of views per video, not popular enough to have decent brand deals, but popular enough to hawk loot crates and have a subreddit” types are making? https://www.socialblade.com Seriously just watch the fat man who made 'Francis rage" videos until he gave up the character and just does regular videos and twitch now, explain this. He has some good videos, even talks about how he came up with character. He made this video, he explains how he doesn't make near as much money like that. Video is 3 years old now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMUU_T-DdP8 Here's an old one for reference, fat man complaining about mountain dew and maybe you saw a francis rage video way in the past. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJ1UqnHsvU Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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It's not millions but it is still stupid amounts of money. Idk I'm mixed some channels have good production and obviously spend money to get people places and whatever (I like the Buzzfeed Unsolved poo poo) but on the other there's just random algo generated poo poo fest stolen asset flip crap for toddlers making $20k/mo. In general I think YT needs to stop playing this idiot techie game of "we're not responsible for the content on our website lol" because they are ultimately profiting off it all. Valve has been doing the same thing with Steam lately and it is moronic. You're not that unique of a widget and you're going to get backlash for hosting weird pedo poo poo eventually (that's directed at both YT and Valve). Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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People got paid millions of dollars to work on Friends so I think I can live with popular youtube channels making decent money through ad revenue and whatever. I have a harder time understanding why people donate money to streamers who are already raking in tens of thousands of dollars of month. $100 is a drop in the bucket to Shroud but people just shovel it into his pocket
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house of the dad posted:People got paid millions of dollars to work on Friends so I think I can live with popular youtube channels making decent money through ad revenue and whatever. I have a harder time understanding why people donate money to streamers who are already raking in tens of thousands of dollars of month. $100 is a drop in the bucket to Shroud but people just shovel it into his pocket He says your name in front of thousands of people.
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Im Ready for DEATH posted:just remember that the number of people who will kill themselves when YT goes belly up is a number greater than zero There was already that one woman who shot up their HQ over the demonetization.
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This reminds me of when I was 13 or 14 and using AOL on my old Packard Bell. I commonly hung out in the X-Files chatroom, lol. Anyway, that X-Files chatroom is where I experienced my first totally sick burn. Typically, I would chat and joke with a bubbly attitude, intending on getting more people involved with whatever we were currently discussing(I was "in training" to eventually be a host). One guy didnt realize I was young and he assumed I was in my 20s, and that I was a phenomenal moron. Which isn't far from the truth but I digress... The insults poured out of this guy as if he were some kind of insult professional. One that still stands out is him asking me if I wore teflon pants to control my bodily functions. Followed by "you're so stupid its unbelievable!". So, 13 ~ 14 year old me was just  at the monitor while he carried on. I eventually left my computer and cried like a little bitch. lmao. Obviously, I developed thicker skin since then. I plea the 5th on those teflon pants. While that little incident I had was lovely for me, and it is something I get amused by in reteospect, I can't help but wonder at how challenging it may be to people who make videos. But, in my opinion, they loving ask for criticism when they create public videos on social media. I'm 36 and  as gently caress about some things but I understand that making videos is a trend for kids now. My brother's kids are obsessed with making YT videos or watching them. I don't exactly feel out of touch about it since most of the stuff on YT doesnt interest me.I DO like Internet Historian's channel, though. Outside of him, I just listen to random music that I dont have copies of or dig up MST3k episodes. My only concern is the knowing that one day the hot trend of streaming reality will eventually fade and something more horrible and confusing to me will peak as the new hook to YT and every other medium. The future, ladies and gentlemen! 
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This was pretty funny. e: Also my most common use of Youtube is to throw on old death metal albums while I drink and do chores. 'Tax, have you considered making a death metal album?
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Lowtax posted:I disagree with that, these people all create something. I think if they product has value or is actually creative is a different argument, but at least from YouTube's point of view, they are creating things that there is clearly a demand for. Well, obviously there is a product being created, so technically they are creators, but I'm not going to mourn the loss of their creation, since most of it is either asinine or toxic. Like if a company that sold corn syrup to babies went under, I would also not treat it as a loss of anything that should have been protected from being taken away. Youtube has great potential, and there are many genuine creators who use it to great effect, but the self-glorification of vloggers and other assholes, and their attempts to portray themselves as tortured artists being crushed under a corporate boot really annoys me. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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steinrokkan posted:Youtube has great potential, and there are many genuine creators who use it to great effect, but the self-glorification of vloggers and other assholes, and their attempts to portray themselves as tortured artists being crushed under a corporate boot really annoys me. Why don't you go cry to your vlog about it.
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yeah I just got the email notification since I subscribe to your channel
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Murray Mantoinette posted:yeah I just got the email notification since I subscribe to your channel im online,
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Lowtax posted:im online, Yeah I know. Didn’t they, like, upload your brain pattern when they opened up your skull during spine surgery or something? I figured that’s why you’ve been posting so much lately.
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Yeah I know. Didn’t they, like, upload your brain pattern when they opened up your skull during spine surgery or something? I figured that’s why you’ve been posting so much lately.
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You also threatened to hit someone with an hors d’oeuvres platter or similar?
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Murray Mantoinette posted:You also threatened to hit someone with an hors d’oeuvres platter or similar?
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I mean... isn’t it?
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