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Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts
Time to shop daily, shops in walking distance, hydroponics, lots of privilege itt

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Dylan16807
May 12, 2010

The Nastier Nate posted:

am i the weird one here? before i got divorced, buying 10-20 bags of groceries for a family of 2 kids, 2 adults and a large dog doesnt seem unusual to stock up for 2 weeks...especially during covid when everyone was home all the time.
Well two weeks instead of one week is a significant difference. If you can't get a week's groceries at once, that's somewhat annoying. If you can't get two week's at once, that doesn't matter much.


Dr. VooDoo posted:

So all these companies pointing to AI as the future, citing companies like Amazon using it to track groceries and not needing a cashier as the computer can just figure out what someone picked up. It turns out AI really means a bunch of barely paid people in India watching camera footage and marking what a person bought. The real innovation was finding a way to trick people into accepting outsourcing human face to face interaction
Let's not exaggerate in the other way. It was mostly automated but not enough, as a lot of AI stuff is.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

i am harry posted:

lmfao you mean too broke

This is also an America problem (that has been successfully exported to Northern Europe, I guess)

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Ham Equity posted:


The Pope, Catholic!

Bears poo poo in the Woods!

drat, if only they used Cabana Cube

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
you can extend the fridge life of your produce a lot if you know proper storage methods. some veggies like to be airtight in jars, maybe with a bit of paper towel to wick up moisture, others like to be wrapped loosely in foil to breathe, and so on

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




brap posted:

you can extend the fridge life of your produce a lot if you know proper storage methods. some veggies like to be airtight in jars, maybe with a bit of paper towel to wick up moisture, others like to be wrapped loosely in foil to breathe, and so on

We're not all vegetable wizards, okay?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

brap posted:

you can extend the fridge life of your produce a lot if you know proper storage methods. some veggies like to be airtight in jars, maybe with a bit of paper towel to wick up moisture, others like to be wrapped loosely in foil to breathe, and so on

i was with you until i had to remember a second type of preservation method and then i was out sorry

fanfic insert
Nov 4, 2009
An AI that will photograph all vegetables I toss in the fridge and tell me how to wrap them. It'll just riff off the top 5 google results and will eventually kill someone but I will have sold the IPO by then.

Give me a billion

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Dylan16807 posted:

Let's not exaggerate in the other way. It was mostly automated but not enough, as a lot of AI stuff is.

Uh, no. From Amazon's own mouth, 700 or 800 out of 1000 transactions had to be manually confirmed, i.e. done by a person, and that figure is just what the system itself caught.

AI is entirely a scam propped up by highly exploited labor from the global south, and I can't see why anyone would see it any other way except for ignorance, malice, or indifference.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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mycomancy posted:

Uh, no. From Amazon's own mouth, 700 or 800 out of 1000 transactions had to be manually confirmed, i.e. done by a person, and that figure is just what the system itself caught.

AI is entirely a scam propped up by highly exploited labor from the global south, and I can't see why anyone would see it any other way except for ignorance, malice, or indifference.

the grifters love hyping AI because its the ultimate tool to absolve themselves of any accountability

Dunno-Lars
Apr 7, 2011
:norway:

:iiam:



mycomancy posted:

AI is entirely a scam propped up by highly exploited labor from the global south, and I can't see why anyone would see it any other way except for ignorance, malice, or indifference.

India is north of Equator, and we all know AI stands for "Actually Indians"
But yes, you are correct.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Dunno-Lars posted:

India is north of Equator, and we all know AI stands for "Actually Indians"
But yes, you are correct.

The "Global South" is distinct from "Southern Hemisphere" although I agree it's a bit misleading

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Facebook Aunt posted:

We're not all vegetable wizards, okay?

Me, a vegetable wizard, when someone is trying to take my vegetables

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Me, a vegetable wizard, when someone is trying to take my vegetables


If there's apples it might be prostitutes.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

3D Megadoodoo posted:

If there's apples it might be prostitutes.

It's like apples to lemons.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

Dylan16807 posted:

Let's not exaggerate in the other way. It was mostly automated but not enough, as a lot of AI stuff is.

lol

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.

Ham Equity posted:


The Pope, Catholic!

Bears poo poo in the Woods!

Lol same


:smith:

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.

Rauros posted:

i dunno. i buy 2 weeks of groceries that i usually stretch to 3 weeks that is primarily fresh produce. by strategically eating things, i can eat produce the whole time, but i also have hydroponics for peppers, tomatoes, leafy greens.

Hell yeah wanna found a gay hydroponics commune w/me

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


tokin opposition posted:

Hell yeah wanna found a gay hydroponics commune w/me

i'll set up the wifi

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Anonymously tipped off the authorities because the CEO of the pub won 4/5 rounds of bingo. I told them and they thought it was a joke.

E: here it's very very against the law for staff to participate in UHMA PELIT.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Get his rear end Jerry

palindrome
Feb 3, 2020

Failed Imagineer posted:

The "Global South" is distinct from "Southern Hemisphere" although I agree it's a bit misleading

I believe it's known as the third world

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

palindrome posted:

I believe it's known as the third world

Global south is meant to capture the fact that the principal colonizers and most developed countries are generally in a band that is to the north of extractive colonized countries. First world and third world and developing/developed are also terms but they’ve mostly fallen out of style, the former because it’s a Cold War relic that doesn’t make sense without a second world and the later because it was considered patronizing

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

3D Megadoodoo posted:

Anonymously tipped off the authorities because the CEO of the pub won 4/5 rounds of bingo. I told them and they thought it was a joke.

E: here it's very very against the law for staff to participate in UHMA PELIT.

What the gently caress kind of pub has a CEO

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

HashtagGirlboss posted:

the later because it was considered patronizing

Patronizing and also it kinda implicitly requires the demographic transition model to be universally true and applicable everywhere, and for things like dependency theory to just not exist

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Shame Boy posted:

What the gently caress kind of pub has a CEO

Title inflation is rampant in small businesses. I know a mom and pop HVAC company with a CEO and a CFO (the pop and mom respectively) and a number of VPs (their assorted children)

Lyesh
Apr 9, 2003

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Global south is meant to capture the fact that the principal colonizers and most developed countries are generally in a band that is to the north of extractive colonized countries. First world and third world and developing/developed are also terms but they’ve mostly fallen out of style, the former because it’s a Cold War relic that doesn’t make sense without a second world and the later because it was considered patronizing

it's still not a great term because two of the countries that are the biggest parts of it by most measures are, themselves, in the north.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Lyesh posted:

it's still not a great term because two of the countries that are the biggest parts of it by most measures are, themselves, in the north.

You’re thinking hemispheres and not relative geographical position

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

(does not include Australia)

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
There's a bunch of people who hate global south too. I have no opinion on the matter one way or the other

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Milo and POTUS posted:

There's a bunch of people who hate global south too. I have no opinion on the matter one way or the other

Yeah it’s an academic term and let the academics fight it out. Global North/South is very much what’s in style these days though so it is what it is


euphronius posted:

(does not include Australia)

Australia is honestly an afterthought colonial outpost in the grand scheme. It’s definitely part of the global north along with New Zealand but it’s not really a driver in any major sense although it can certainly be belligerent regionally. If/when western (read US) hegemony falls apart Australia will have a worse time of it than pretty much any of the rest

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Also, the whole terminology is a gently caress. New Zealand is as far east as you get, plus pretty south, but it's still in "the West". Meanwhile, Morocco, a country situated west of most of Europe and literally called "the West" in it's native language is not considered part of "the West".

It's all just a front for "descended from European culture" or "counts as white" really

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

America and it’s colonies

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Global North also has Russia is in the rich countries club despite a lot of history that puts them in opposition to US/European imperialism so that’s part of it too

Although with the way we’ve been redefining everything based on the Ukraine conflict maybe that’ll change

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010

mycomancy posted:

Uh, no. From Amazon's own mouth, 700 or 800 out of 1000 transactions had to be manually confirmed, i.e. done by a person, and that figure is just what the system itself caught.

AI is entirely a scam propped up by highly exploited labor from the global south, and I can't see why anyone would see it any other way except for ignorance, malice, or indifference.

That many entire orders had to have at least one item manually confirmed. Probably 90% of individual items worked fine.

Making humans do that much correction isn't feasible, but it's very different from saying it was a sham and the humans were doing almost everything.

And I wouldn't say it was a scam either. They couldn't reach their unrealistic goals, so they shut it down. If it was a scam to use cheap labor they'd keep going, wouldn't they?

You could argue that it was a PR scam, I guess, but that's different from exploitative labor practices.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

the Amazon defender is here

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Shame Boy posted:

What the gently caress kind of pub has a CEO

One that's used for money Landerig.

Dylan16807
May 12, 2010

euphronius posted:

the Amazon defender is here
It's defending them to say they failed and the system didn't use that much labor on purpose?

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

Dylan16807 posted:

Probably 90% of individual items worked fine.

oh yeah for sure

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the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
I bet 90% of it worked fine and Amazon never bothered to brag about that, because they're humble

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