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i assume the PPV went downhill after Ball Assault Match b/c i just played TESO after that
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Jul 16, 2018 04:12
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How'd Lashley win?
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Jul 16, 2018 04:13
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As a noted Callis hater he has gotten better. The announce team for the G1 so far is Callis, Kevin Kelly, and Rocky Romero and they've gotten me to swap off of the Japanese announce team. Majority of the G1 is going to be just Kevin and Rocky and should be some good announcing.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:14
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Strawberry Panda posted:How'd Lashley win? Spear, clean
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In terms of New Japan's English commentators, JR has been a really really really bad one. When the bar's raised even a bit it stands out, Callis is probably the best/most standout one on the desk overall aside from Kevin Kelly JR's been abysmal since leaving the Raw desk fulltime imo, it's just become more apparent with lack of effort showing these last few years. If his heart's not in it anymore and if he doesn't need the money I don't know why he still does it 
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Jul 16, 2018 04:14
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Strawberry Panda posted:How'd Lashley win? Speared Roman as he was running in for a Superman Punch, pinned clean
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MotU posted:i assume the PPV went downhill after Ball Assault Match b/c i just played TESO after that Pretty much but Roman lost clean and Ronda was Real Cool. Also Dolph and Seth tried their best to have a drat good match but were hosed by a (rightfully) ornery crowd and all time bad agenting.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:15
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Also did I seriously see an NJPW fan ITT go to bat for Don Callis? He gets stuff over while still being an amusing heel, he's a giant Kenny Omega mark and he once ate a codebreaker from Jericho. It's genuinely very entertaining. Big Coffin Hunter posted:a one match card is a one match card, and buddy, the DK rap is the only match there There's also Chunky Kong. He can pick up a boulder with relative ease.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:16
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Holy poo poo I completely forgot that there was a PPV tonight
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projecthalaxy posted:Speared Roman as he was running in for a Superman Punch, pinned clean That sounds awesome. Was it bad?
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Jul 16, 2018 04:16
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I am not the least but surprised Foochs doesn't like Don Callis.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:17
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Strawberry Panda posted:That sounds awesome. Was it bad? It was a standard WWE main event type match. Roman was working heel, they big boy brawled, then Lashley won.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:17
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Shoenin posted:WWE has been Russo WCW for like 2-3 years now. thats an insult to russo booking. as trash as he was he was at least doing things that were so stupid we talk about them 20 years later. this is just fuckin BORING
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Jul 16, 2018 04:17
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Strawberry Panda posted:That sounds awesome. Was it bad? Nah it was decent Lashley-Reigns and Styles-Russev were the only decent matches
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Jul 16, 2018 04:17
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Pretty much but Roman lost clean and Ronda was Real Cool. Also Dolph and Seth tried their best to have a drat good match but were hosed by a (rightfully) ornery crowd and all time bad agenting. That ending was insulting and I don't understand the point. Dolph was going to get the pin so you know Seth was going to lose. We're told a tie favors the champ, so Seth loses. Then they just change the rules and Seth still loses. We got to watch the most over babyface lose three times in a row while WWE tells us that their internal logic and consistency doesn't matter.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:19
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Le Saboteur posted:I am not the least but surprised Foochs doesn't like Don Callis. I've only heard him in bits and pieces from the occasional Impact stuff I catch on YouTube. Maybe he's worse there. Maybe it's a byproduct of being next to Josh Mathews. All I know is what I've heard from him is uh... not great.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:19
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Gumball Gumption posted:That ending was insulting and I don't understand the point. Dolph was going to get the pin so you know Seth was going to lose. We're told a tie favors the champ, so Seth loses. Then they just change the rules and Seth still loses. We got to watch the most over babyface lose three times in a row while WWE tells us that their internal logic and consistency doesn't matter. It was punishment for the counting.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:20
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I like his New Japan stuff
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Jul 16, 2018 04:20
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He is 100% worse in impact with no one to balance him out.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:20
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EugeneJ posted:Nah it was decent Cool. May check those out while waiting for Tana vs. White later. Team Hell No was bad? Did Kane turn?
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Jul 16, 2018 04:21
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Strawberry Panda posted:Cool. May check those out while waiting for Tana vs. White later. They got ambushed backstage and then Kane came out in a cast and lost.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:21
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I've only heard him in bits and pieces from the occasional Impact stuff I catch on YouTube. Maybe he's worse there. Maybe it's a byproduct of being next to Josh Mathews. All I know is what I've heard from him is uh... not great. He's skeezy for sure. I hated him at first but he's grown on me.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:22
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Strawberry Panda posted:Cool. May check those out while waiting for Tana vs. White later. Bludgies did a beatdown backstage, Kane had a worked broken ankle, he was there for like 20 seconds, Bryan vailiantly lost 2v1
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Jul 16, 2018 04:22
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Saint Freak posted:They got ambushed backstage and then Kane came out in a cast and lost. Wtf is this poo poo!
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Le Saboteur posted:If you've been getting any enjoyment from WWE in the last 3-4 months you must be a very patient person.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:25
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Strawberry Panda posted:Wtf is this poo poo! also to be clear, even though Kane's leg had been smashed with hammers and he was wrestling in a boot cast, Bryan still took the clean pin
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Jul 16, 2018 04:27
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Everyone's worse in TNA because there's no incentive to care. Been that way for a while
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Jul 16, 2018 04:27
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CarlCX posted:also to be clear, even though Kane's leg had been smashed with hammers and he was wrestling in a boot cast, Bryan still took the clean pin Of course he did. Sewing the seeds for another weak link storyline.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:28
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Strawberry Panda posted:Of course he did. Sewing the seeds for another weak link storyline. That's honestly really not as bad as it sounds. Bryan went toe to toe with them 2 v. 1 for like 10 minutes. I fully anticipate THN winning at SummerSlam.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:30
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I think my favorite match of the night was that Tables Match on the pre-show
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SamuraiFoochs posted:That's honestly really not as bad as it sounds. Bryan went toe to toe with them 2 v. 1 for like 10 minutes. I fully anticipate THN winning at SummerSlam. For sure. I just think it sucks that you advertise a match and then change it to be some bullshit at the last minute. Like the thing with Jeff Hardy. Just do the ball shot on TV and have an actual match at the PPV.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:38
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Chris James 2 posted:Everyone's worse in TNA because there's no incentive to care. Been that way for a while people keep telling me tna is "good" now and that i should "watch" it, but its still loving tna like why did anyone invest any energy in reviving it just burn it all down and start something new
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Jul 16, 2018 04:41
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Strawberry Panda posted:For sure. I just think it sucks that you advertise a match and then change it to be some bullshit at the last minute. Like the thing with Jeff Hardy. Just do the ball shot on TV and have an actual match at the PPV. Ohh that. Yeah absolutely. As soon as they did the backstage angle I literally muttered "Oh gently caress off" at my TV.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:41
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nxt has been good this year, and the weekly tv has been very strong since about may. its existence is proof that wwe can book good week to week products, they just choose not to on the main roster.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:47
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STONE COLD 64 posted:nxt has been good this year, and the weekly tv has been very strong since about may. its existence is proof that wwe can book good week to week products, they just choose not to on the main roster. HHH can* (Or gives other people the agency to and signs off on it without loving with it)
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Jul 16, 2018 04:58
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STONE COLD 64 posted:nxt has been good this year, and the weekly tv has been very strong since about may. its existence is proof that wwe can book good week to week products, they just choose not to on the main roster. Quality over quantity. NXT puts on less matches and the wrestlers can rest up for tapings. Producing 5+ hours of tv a week literally causes WWE to run out of quality ideas.
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Jul 16, 2018 05:07
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Gumball Gumption posted:Quality over quantity. NXT puts on less matches and the wrestlers can rest up for tapings. Producing 5+ hours of tv a week literally causes WWE to run out of quality ideas. Wwe also doesn't produce it's show like a sports show. So there are never really any stakes and nothing matters win or lose. So no one ever cares about anything.
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Jul 16, 2018 05:12
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They wouldn't even need to produce it like a sports show for stakes to matter. They just have a complete lack of internal consistency. You can see it in poo poo like the sudden death in the iron man match. They're actively telling you that the rules don't matter and don't have an effect on the outcome. The time Braun was literally murdered in a trash compactor and then a match continued is another good example. They don't know how to set expectations on what the reality of the show is. It's impossible to know what matters and doesn't matter when the show is constantly changing what it thinks matters.
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I just wish they would produce it like a sports product because at the end of the day wrestling is simulated sports. It would also help the show feel coherent.
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