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none of this would've happened if napoleon had kept to his three-year plan for the russian war
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Jul 17, 2018 22:00
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ferroque posted:Not a disney movie but yeah. rasputin was a secret communist sorcerer who manipulated events to guarantee that the revolution would occur. he feared that the tzar would be so incompetent as to fail even at being an absolute failure of a monarch.
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Jul 17, 2018 22:14
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:grandfather not uncle, tsar alexander ii, and he got blown up by a bomb courtesy of the People's Will anarchist group
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Jul 17, 2018 23:19
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jBrereton posted:very much the jfk assassination of its day i still cry when i think about it 
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Jul 17, 2018 23:25
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:grandfather not uncle, tsar alexander ii, and he got blown up by a bomb courtesy of the People's Will anarchist group--two really, one that damaged his carriage and killed some of his cossack bodyguards, then a second thrown at the tsar's feet after he and his surviving guards disembarked. died a mangled wreck in abject agony at the st. petersburg palace. nicky's father alex iii was the dumb failson who rolled back such liberal reforms as alex ii hadn't gone back on already, waged the disastrous & pathetic russo-japanese war, etc. failed son of a failed son
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Jul 17, 2018 23:34
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https://twitter.com/theeconomist/status/822926264285753344 this take has aged incredibly well.
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Jul 17, 2018 23:42
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Instant Sunrise posted:https://twitter.com/theeconomist/status/822926264285753344 https://twitter.com/TrumpdaFraud/status/822929929977237504
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Jul 17, 2018 23:46
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Kerensky was Russian Hillary
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Jul 17, 2018 23:55
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I got a bunch of downvotes on Reddit for endorsing revolutionary justice for the Romanovs. history communities on Reddit are just awful
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Jul 18, 2018 00:01
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Frog Act posted:I got a bunch of downvotes on Reddit for endorsing revolutionary justice for the Romanovs. history communities on Reddit are just awful I like ask an historian or whatever it’s called but it’s also heavily moderated
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Jul 18, 2018 00:05
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Shark Sandwich posted:I like ask an historian or whatever it’s called but it’s also heavily moderated what ya wanna know
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Jul 18, 2018 00:08
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Didn't Lenin have to keep moving the royal family around since a lot of the guys guarding them wanted to kill them outright? Nicholas could've abdicated but nooooo. Too bad divine right isn't bulletproof, I'm sure some people missed having Cossacks rape and kill them.
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Jul 18, 2018 00:11
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Watching Americans flip from 'watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants' to 'ugu royal wedding' is the weirdest loving thing.
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rudatron posted:Watching Americans flip from 'watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants' to 'ugu royal wedding' is the weirdest loving thing. Temporarily inconvenienced noblemen.
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byob historian posted:what ya wanna know oh I just meant it’s decently moderated so it’s not wehraboos jacking off to Panthers
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rudatron posted:Watching Americans flip from 'watering the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants' to 'ugu royal wedding' is the weirdest loving thing. They don't actually see the royal family in its correct context, to Americans (and braindead Canadians) the royals fall under the umbrella of generic celebrity worship.
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Instant Sunrise posted:https://twitter.com/theeconomist/status/822926264285753344 lmao
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phasmid posted:Didn't Lenin have to keep moving the royal family around since a lot of the guys guarding them wanted to kill them outright? Nicholas could've abdicated but nooooo. Too bad divine right isn't bulletproof, I'm sure some people missed having Cossacks rape and kill them. Nicky did abdicate. he was basically in citzens arrest because of his crimes but the whites wanted to reimpose the tsar rule, hence the moving them around and eventual execution. which was good
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really queer Christmas posted:Nicky did abdicate. he was basically in citzens arrest because of his crimes but the whites wanted to reimpose the tsar rule, hence the moving them around and eventual execution. Yeah one of the straw was that his named heir, Grand Duke Michael, saw which way the wind was blowing and refused to accept the crown unless an elected body of some sort offered it (presumably a reformed Duma under the auspices of the provisional government), while the Ispolkom wouldn't accept the alternative of the tsarevich for obvious reasons. Captain_Maclaine has issued a correction as of 01:06 on Jul 18, 2018 |
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really queer Christmas posted:Nicky did abdicate. he was basically in citzens arrest because of his crimes but the whites wanted to reimpose the tsar rule, hence the moving them around and eventual execution. Hey, no argument here.
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Jul 18, 2018 01:05
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Kurtofan posted:anyone got a good song about it, preferably from the time of the events also a heavy-metal style animated music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqVOFSYRWI
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Jul 18, 2018 02:26
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phasmid posted:Didn't Lenin have to keep moving the royal family around since a lot of the guys guarding them wanted to kill them outright? Nicholas could've abdicated but nooooo. Too bad divine right isn't bulletproof, I'm sure some people missed having Cossacks rape and kill them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II_of_Russia#Abdication_(1917)
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only one european emperor worth the vivat
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still waiting for lin-manuel miranda to drop his hip hop musical about lenin
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Lin-Manuel's latest musical "BYRD!" has taken Broadway by storm, a rapturous tribute on one of the greatest Democratic senators.
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:only one european emperor worth the vivat Napoleon... hell, he was good.
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Jul 18, 2018 04:40
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Not good enough to avoid getting owned by the Romanovs.
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Jul 18, 2018 05:05
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Its pretty funny that the cheat codes for earth is living in a frozen wasteland and telling lies all the time
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puyi was arguably a worse person and got a better deal
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Instant Sunrise posted:anyway lurkers i’d suggest “october” by china miéville as a good introductory overview of the russian revolution. yeah it was good, had so many weird parallels to the modern world too like I could not help but think of weakass 'satire' like the daily show or smug cofveve memes in the section about liberal and moderate protest of the czar murdering serfs. They hosted swanky feasts where they'd give scathing and witty 'ironic' toasts to the czar dude also had every chance to abdicate or make reforms before it was too late
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1994 Toyota Celica posted:only one european emperor worth the vivat I was wondering the other day how the Soviets saw him
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Feldegast42 posted:I was wondering the other day how the Soviets saw him idk but that reminded me of the story about how there's a guestbook from the museum at borodino with an entry from a soviet officer in 1941- purpose of visit: "to defend the battlefield"
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lol Goddamn
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Feldegast42 posted:I was wondering the other day how the Soviets saw him The Soviet attitude toward him was usually tied up in residual Russian nationalism and pride in defeating the Grand Army, which became all the more acute when Stalin started lionizing Suvorov and Kutuzov during the great patriotic war.
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