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Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Typo posted:

imperial russia 1900s had modern day chinese rates of economic growth and industrialization until the civil war blew it all up

Nicholas II was so bad that even bourgeois liberals recognized the need to overthrow him

Fast growing? Yeah, St. Petersburg didn't exist as a major industrial center until Nicholas II but so what? This is like pointing out that a poor African country is the "fastest growing" because it gets one newly industrialized hub as a city

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mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Typo posted:

imperial russia 1900s had modern day chinese rates of economic growth and industrialization until the civil war blew it all up

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm really glad the Bolsheviks were smart enough and brave enough to kill all those filthy royals.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Just a couple years ago I found out a Von Habsburg was in the Austrian senate, which was a pretty sobering moment for me

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



gradenko_2000 posted:

FWIW I'm reading Neil Faulkner's A People's History of the Russian Revolution and I found it a lot more readable and approachable than Mieville's October

I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggled with October. I'm not sure what it was but man it was a chore.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

finally read this thread and lmao at the people who have only just discovered the depths of typo's virulent anticommunism

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018
Probation
Can't post for 54 minutes!

nah
Mar 16, 2009

killing kids rules

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
it was pretty cool but no guillotine so it could've been cooler imo

7/10

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
so why hasn't Spain executed its monarchs? did they ever get close?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

gradenko_2000 posted:

so why hasn't Spain executed its monarchs? did they ever get close?

i always devolve into a presidential dictatorship in vicky 1 so this reality is an anomaly

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

gradenko_2000 posted:

so why hasn't Spain executed its monarchs? did they ever get close?

The cowardly king fled in 1931 so the socialists never got a shot.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Former DILF posted:

Just a couple years ago I found out a Von Habsburg was in the Austrian senate, which was a pretty sobering moment for me

he kicked the poo poo out of ian paisely so i think he gets to live

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Frog Act posted:

anyone got a good book recommendation on the Russian revolutions and, as a follow up, on Stalin and the transition of power after his death? I'm fine with something academic, I never got to take any Russian history courses
Ten Days That Shook The World is very good if slightly ahistorical at times

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

gradenko_2000 posted:

so why hasn't Spain executed its monarchs? did they ever get close?

To be fair the first monarch they had after Franco restored the country as a democracy and helped keep it that way

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_I_of_Spain

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Feldegast42 posted:

To be fair the first monarch they had after Franco restored the country as a democracy and helped keep it that way

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_I_of_Spain

Yes, and I know Spanish leftists who respect the monarchy because of it.

But lol at being installed by Francoism.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
https://mobile.twitter.com/chipotlecorbu/status/1024897784531562496

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Frijolero posted:

Yes, and I know Spanish leftists who respect the monarchy because of it.

But lol at being installed by Francoism.

Lol at respecting monarchy

It's cuckoldry from another era you might as well let the queen of England gently caress your wife

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

A Buttery Pastry posted:

Khrushchev wept when he read of Everett's many-worlds interpretation, and when his comrades inquired what ailed him, "Is it not worthy of tears," he said, "that, when the number of worlds is infinite, we have not yet killed even all the royals of this one"

drat this owns hard

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I know they had some really really bad problems, but sometimes I start to think maybe the Soviets were real good

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
I mean, like, unirocally, the whole Soviet government

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

ikanreed posted:

I know they had some really really bad problems, but sometimes I start to think maybe the Soviets were real good

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound
thread needs this gif imo

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
i was born in the USSR and am legit proud we gunned down all our monarchs

i use this to make fun of my EU friends that still have trophy monarchs

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

There really is no reason to have them. They could just give them a severance package and become republics overnight.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

A "severance" package. :getin:

alsothere
Oct 14, 2014
Taco Defender

R. Guyovich posted:

finally read this thread and lmao at the people who have only just discovered the depths of typo's virulent anticommunism

iirc didn't he site a nazi source during an argument at one point?

alsothere has issued a correction as of 19:57 on Aug 2, 2018

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

A "severance" package. :getin:

severance of the head from the neck

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Instant Sunrise posted:

severance of the head from the neck

yes that was the joke

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbqQ6pHct64

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Former DILF posted:

Just a couple years ago I found out a Von Habsburg was in the Austrian senate, which was a pretty sobering moment for me

A college buddy of mine is distantly related to one of their (many) illegitimate lines. These days he unironically reposts things from Infowars, and was a dedicated gamergater when that was still big.

alsothere posted:

iirc didn't he site a nazi source during an argument at one point?

Maybe? I mainly recall him using Roger Conquests deeply flawed numbers in the standard "communism killed literally everyone that ever lived" garbage.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Captain_Maclaine posted:

A college buddy of mine is distantly related to one of their (many) illegitimate lines. These days he unironically reposts things from Infowars, and was a dedicated gamergater when that was still big.

It's scary that von Hapsburg madness curses even the people without the perks.

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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's scary that von Hapsburg madness curses even the people without the perks.

He's also massively overweight and nearly died a few years back from a MRSA infection brought on by his slovenly living, so yeah more than a few ghosts of the past there.

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