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Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010



Use this to discuss CS4 news or spoilers from any of the other unlocalized games since people in the main thread are getting annoyed.

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Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Here is a link to the just released trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxCf3kUKC2E

and a bunch of screengrabs:

https://imgur.com/a/aYmHeIE

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015



Canon

I was going to lol at the triple belts but I guess he's always had them

lets hang out fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jul 19, 2018

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
The most important preview image:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nihonfalcom/status/1019175938372747265

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Kloe rockin a fly as gently caress cape.

Koguma
Sep 1, 2007

One of the Big Seven !!
Adult Roselia :ohdear:

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

I think I speak for everyone when I say: Where's Zin???

Seeing the Glorious again made me grin, guess Ouroborous are going loud again.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

canonized just days after it was tweeted

https://twitter.com/mc_keo_/status/1018532698988539904

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
This game's shaping up to be a bigger crossover event than Infinity War.

IceBorg
Oct 23, 2012

I KINDA DOUBT THAT!

The Doomhammer posted:

I think I speak for everyone when I say: Where's Zin???

Seeing the Glorious again made me grin, guess Ouroborous are going loud again.

Zin is probably only gonna be a Calvard thing only sadly.


Is this gonna be the game where Cassius has to use a sword again? Osborne and Ouroboros are screwed either way now that he is here!

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

So, since I'm assuming anyone in this thread would be familiar with the events of SEN III, I was wondering who everyone thought the last Awakener will end up being.

My guess is Renne, based on the extremely scientific reasoning that they released a screenshot of her early, making me think she has a more pertinent part in the plot to play than Estelle and Joshua do. Also, there's plenty of speculation the last knight is in Crossbell, which would fit too. ALSO how is she supposed to have friendly giant robot duels with Tita, as promised in 3rd, if she doesn't have a giant robot?

In conclusion, It's probably gonna be Juna or something.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

I'd been thinking Angie or Olivert but I saw someone mention just today the connection between Gordias and gold. Makes you think huh. Could easily see it being Ash too.

Whoever it is, I'm betting we're going to be escorting them through their trials as this game's old schoolhouse equivalent. IIRC they've already said there's going to be one.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

It being olivier would give them a non-asspull out on the whole courageous went kaboom thing but since it's falcom they wouldn't kill both Victor and Toval anyway so they probably all survived through a different method. I still think there's good odds it's him just independent of that, would finally give him something to do in CS

if not that Ash.

IceBorg
Oct 23, 2012

I KINDA DOUBT THAT!
Bleublanc probably saved him, he totally bowed out of helping Ouroboros when they started teaming up with Osborne but he was probably still around checking things out so he saved everyone at the last second because he will not let his rival die.

Koguma
Sep 1, 2007

One of the Big Seven !!
Bleublanc also pretty much dipped because Vita was no longer involved, and the above theory is just something he'd do, honestly. Something about beauty, yada yada.

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

I can definitely see BB saving Olivier, though I wonder if he'd bother saving Toval, victor and the rest of the crew as well.

As for Ash, he's definitely a good chance of being the last awakener. He'd be in especially good company with Crow, Rutger and Arianrhod since I'm pretty much 95% sure at this point that he didn't actually survive Hamel.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

But Crow had his robot before he died :tinfoil:

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

lets hang out posted:

But Crow had his robot before he died :tinfoil:

Did Rutger get his knight before or after his death? not sure if this has even been mentioned actually.

Edit: apparently it was after.

The Doomhammer fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jul 22, 2018

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

The Doomhammer posted:

I can definitely see BB saving Olivier, though I wonder if he'd bother saving Toval, victor and the rest of the crew as well.

Nah, he just stole the Courageous.

IceBorg
Oct 23, 2012

I KINDA DOUBT THAT!
So here's a question:

What twist that involves Elliot or Machias will happen? Like every single Class VII character has some importance in the grand scheme of things but Machias and Elliot are still kinda there in terms of importance, hell even Gaius is now one of the most powerfull characters in the good guys side.

Machias wears glasses so is he evil?

Is Elliot the Grandmaster?

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

IceBorg posted:

So here's a question:

What twist that involves Elliot or Machias will happen? Like every single Class VII character has some importance in the grand scheme of things but Machias and Elliot are still kinda there in terms of importance, hell even Gaius is now one of the most powerfull characters in the good guys side.

Machias wears glasses so is he evil?

Is Elliot the Grandmaster?

Machias will be a sleeper agent secretly working for Osborne for extremely complex reasons. Elliot will genuinely just be a random dude caught up in the middle.

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

never trust glasses

Detheros
Apr 11, 2010

I want to die.



The twist for them is that they will die and stay dead.


Until the 2nd Calvard game.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

lets hang out posted:

never trust glasses

Between Ao and CS3, Falcom has taught me to never trust fat people. loving Ian and George.

Charlie Bobson
Dec 28, 2013
estelle is gonna be in this game and im very happy

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Mr. Fortitude posted:

Machias will be a sleeper agent secretly working for Osborne for extremely complex reasons. Elliot will genuinely just be a random dude caught up in the middle.

One thing I've always wondered about is how much Machias's dad actually knows. Like he is supposed to be a top aide, but... he's basically a glorified mayor, and you don't
necessarily need to invite the guy you hired to win public support by making sure poor neighborhoods get their garbage picked up on time to the
"Please provide me Calvard invasion plans within a week, no, no particular reason, just in case" meetings with the generals.

Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Mr. Fortitude posted:

Machias will be a sleeper agent secretly working for Osborne for extremely complex reasons. Elliot will genuinely just be a random dude caught up in the middle.

Turns out there's a third faction of the gnomes/witches thing.

They're named Mregnitz.

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

New details time! here's a thread:

https://twitter.com/Gu4n/status/1022000167157936128

The mention of a Calvard OR Leman arc is... interesting.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

The comment about mysteries being revealed in quests and bonding events annoys me. Do it in the main story gosh.

Also it wasn't translated but there's a comment about a quest with renne and her parents so I'm gonna cry again

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Here's today's stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evSSyoU2cTs

Edit: Actually my time stamps are all wrong somehow :shrug:

Here's a video of just the cutscene and gameplay parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heq9b6eF7-Q

lets hang out fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jul 26, 2018

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

i like how it literally starts in the same scene CS3 ended in lol

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Dengeki scans https://imgur.com/a/eP4Lumr

There's a page omitted so it's hard to tell but that's old art of grancel castle in the background :iiam:



lets hang out fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 26, 2018

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
You know, I knew Rean looked good in red, and he looked good in white, but drat he looks good in black.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

So what do you guys think about who will be the final divine knight?

My best guess is Olivier, since I seem to remember some interview response implying that he might be alive, and that would be one way for him to stay alive, given there seems to be some way for divine knight "owners" to cheat death or come back to life.

I'm pretty hype about this game. The one advantage to having kind of shaky Japanese is that it makes the game take a really long time to play. CS3 took me like 120 hours or something, just because it took me a long time to translate dialogue.

edit: Oh, just saw you guys mentioning this above. I think I mentioned this in the other thread, but my favored (but doubted) choice would be Ash, just because I like him a lot and want him to have a big role in things.

edit2: As an unrelated thing, one thing I liked about CS3's ending is that Osbourne's plan actually made sense. It annoys me when enemy mastermind plans rely on the protagonist doing certain things or winning certain fights, but Osbourne set things up so that his goal would be achieved regardless of whether Rean made it to him. If Rean can't get through the barrier or gets stopped by some of the people put in his way, Cedric kills Altina and uses sword-Altina to kill the corrupted guardian beast and release the curse. If he can get through (as he does), Osbourne just forces him to fight the dragon, which is a lose-lose proposition (since defeating it releases the curse as well).

CS2 is a little weirder in that I'm not sure what Osbourne's plan would have been if Rean/Crow weren't able to stop Testarossa, but presumably he could have just dealt with it using his divine knight-equipped allies (at least Claussel and spear-lady whose name I forget).

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Aug 3, 2018

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

It's gonna finally be Gilbert's time to shine, this is clearly the returning Sky plot thread Kondo's been talking about

The Doomhammer fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Aug 3, 2018

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

Ytlaya posted:

So what do you guys think about who will be the final divine knight?

My best guess is Olivier, since I seem to remember some interview response implying that he might be alive, and that would be one way for him to stay alive, given there seems to be some way for divine knight "owners" to cheat death or come back to life.

I'm pretty hype about this game. The one advantage to having kind of shaky Japanese is that it makes the game take a really long time to play. CS3 took me like 120 hours or something, just because it took me a long time to translate dialogue.

edit: Oh, just saw you guys mentioning this above. I think I mentioned this in the other thread, but my favored (but doubted) choice would be Ash, just because I like him a lot and want him to have a big role in things.

it's also just long as hell, i cleared it in over 100 while Ao only took me 60 and both were in japanese.

Anyway, Olivier would be cool since he really hasnt gotten to do much in Cold Steel although i don't think it'll be how he survives since i dont think they'll kill both toval and victor.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Speaking of Ash, am I the only one who got "BL character" vibes from him?

Cake Attack posted:

it's also just long as hell, i cleared it in over 100 while Ao only took me 60 and both were in japanese.

Anyway, Olivier would be cool since he really hasnt gotten to do much in Cold Steel although i don't think it'll be how he survives since i dont think they'll kill both toval and victor.

Eh, I won't be surprised at all if both Toval and Victor stay dead. Victor had already "passed the mantle" so to speak and wasn't doing so hot due to the aftereffects of his fight with McBurn (though I can't remember if that just made him weaker or if it was actually killing him), and Toval is a pretty minor (and thus expendable) character.

Olivier staying dead is harder to buy. To be honest, I would like him to stay dead just because the alternative is kind of predictable (same goes for Angela*), but I really doubt they're going to just end Olivier's story - a character who has been around since Sky 1 - with him getting totally owned and exploded.

* I really liked how they set you up for a "Angela isn't actually dead" twist, what with not directly showing her death and creating the opening for George's redemption, and then George is like "uh, I told you I killed her" to Towa. I will not be happy if they go back on that and pull a George redemption.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Aug 3, 2018

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

As much as I love Olivier, part of me hopes the three of em are actually dead, just so somebody stays dead in these games. The way things are going I'm half expecting Loewe to show up alive, again.

I'm more interested in Angelica's fate, honestly. The game clearly sets it up as her not really being dead, but I don't really have many theories on what actually happened to her. If George confronted her alone that would be one thing, but Alberich was there too...

edit: as said above, I really really want George to stay evil.

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

my rule of thumb is that if there's enough ambiguity to even have the debate, they're not dead.

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Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
When's the last non-dramatic death though

When the manager of a small town gets a long cutscene, there's no way they're just unceremoniously killing off named characters in the most bloodless series

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