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Sam Faust posted:Isn't that just them reading about the huge sea next to a small lake? Ok, I forgot about the rivers and lakes. The wall looked dirtier than the city walls so I assumed it was the one at sea.
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I'm really glad for the anime adaptation. In the manga Floch was one of many Jean look-alikes and didn't show up often enough to be worth remembering. The faster pacing of the anime and it making him visually distinctive enough from other background characters give his speech here much more weight.
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Donnerberg posted:Ok, I forgot about the rivers and lakes. The wall looked dirtier than the city walls so I assumed it was the one at sea. I thought you were making fun that the original shot (from S1 EP7) didn't have Mikasa in it.  The location is the kids' hangout spot by the river, inside Shiganshina: 
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Alright, it's time to watch the whole show again from the start. There's probably a lot that I missed or forgot.
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Jul 1, 2019 16:40
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Conspiratiorist posted:I love this part of the story and the episode was very well executed, but I have a some words to say given how they cut the Owl's and Grisha's conversation a little short here; in the manga, the Owl points out that Ymir couldn't have been the saint that the old texts he handed to the Restorationists portrayed her as. Paraphrasing: "She brought nothing but wealth and prosperity, with this power? Does that sound like a real person to you?". On the same beat, he also points out that if Eldia had engaged in the ethnic cleansing of other peoples for 1,700 years then there wouldn't be any Marleyans alive today (let alone a historically contiguous nation of Marley to rise up and become a world power within a few years of the Eldian Empire collapsing). Thanks for this, makes that whole scene a lot better. Great season. Maybe my favorite beach episode ever.
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What was the reasoning the owl had for not saving Dina/the others exactly? Was that also more fleshed out in the manga?
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Surprisingly Dope posted:What was the reasoning the owl had for not saving Dina/the others exactly? Was that also more fleshed out in the manga? A bit.   And this gem mentioned earlier in the thread:   He also tells Grisha that he kept knowledge of the Curse of Ymir from the Restorationists because the info he fed them was intended to boost their morale, and Grisha would've surely hesitated to implement his plan to use Zeke had he known about it.
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Jul 1, 2019 18:01
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Surprisingly Dope posted:What was the reasoning the owl had for not saving Dina/the others exactly? Was that also more fleshed out in the manga? He could only transfer his titan to one person, and without it no one would be able to cross the miles and miles of titan country. And they couldn't exactly go back across the sea, and not just because Kruger had just destroyed all the ships, although it was certainly a big part of it.
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And you can also make the argument that Kruger's unspoken backup plan was that, even if Grisha got eaten on the way, whichever titan did so would subsequently inherit the Attack Titan and their memories.
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Jul 1, 2019 18:09
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Rewatch. Season 1, episode 3, after Eren face plants due to the broken 3D gear. His wound is steaming. This loving show, man. The nerve to hide this stuff in plain sight. I love it! It isn't even accurate to call it "hiding". The camera focuses on the steam. This is teasing, if not taunting the viewer. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Jul 1, 2019 |
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Jul 1, 2019 21:03
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So, before the Owl started dropping plot bombs, he kicked that Marley officer over the precipice. You see a titan pick that guy up and start chomping on him. Later on, though, you see the body of that officer on the ground. It's not really clear, but it seems like maybe he was just bitten and then dropped on the ground. The titan didn't consume his flesh. Is that a huge loving deal? Are titans only compelled to consume Eldian flesh? It really seems like the Marley people figured out how to program the coordinate with a couple of ideas. First off, don't go to war with Marley, ever. Second of all, compel all titans to eat Eldians. The noble bloodline close to the king, and the 9 shifters, were the only ones immune to the commands coming from the king.
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Maxwell Adams posted:So, before the Owl started dropping plot bombs, he kicked that Marley officer over the precipice. You see a titan pick that guy up and start chomping on him. Later on, though, you see the body of that officer on the ground. It's not really clear, but it seems like maybe he was just bitten and then dropped on the ground. The titan didn't consume his flesh. Is that a huge loving deal? Are titans only compelled to consume Eldian flesh? The titan only half ate the officer, which isn't exactly uncommon, particularly for small ones.
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Conspiratiorist posted:The titan only half ate the officer, which isn't exactly uncommon, particularly for small ones. Like Marco.
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Jul 1, 2019 21:51
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If this series actually explores the possibility of nations committing counter genocides in response to horrors inflicted on them in the frankly excellent way it has treated this entire conflict I will be beyond impressed.
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Maxwell Adams posted:The noble bloodline close to the king, and the 9 shifters, were the only ones immune to the commands coming from the king. You've got it wrong here- remember that Frieda was able to freely modify Historia's memories. Royal bloodline itself grants no imunity. What does is either being a shifter, not sharing the blood of the people of Ymir (the nobility inside the walls are the various minority bloodlines who evacuated Eldia together with the king and were granted higher standing in return for helping keep up the official narrative), or being an Ackerman.
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I wonder when Zeke became a shifter/how old he is exactly. Going off him being like 6 when he turned his parents in he should be in his mid 20s now I think? But he seems a lot older, maybe he just looks it. I also wonder how the beast titan works since it seems like it has abilities similar to the coordinate.
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Maxwell Adams posted:So, before the Owl started dropping plot bombs, he kicked that Marley officer over the precipice. You see a titan pick that guy up and start chomping on him. Later on, though, you see the body of that officer on the ground. It's not really clear, but it seems like maybe he was just bitten and then dropped on the ground. The titan didn't consume his flesh. Is that a huge loving deal? Are titans only compelled to consume Eldian flesh? No, Titans are compelled to consume all humans, they just throw away or vomit up ones that aren’t shifters. That’s one of the reasons Eldia was able to use them as such effective biological weapons. In the manga, that death scene was much more explicitly shown: the Titan started biting the man’s face off while (what looked like) making eye contact with Grisha.
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Surprisingly Dope posted:I wonder when Zeke became a shifter/how old he is exactly. Going off him being like 6 when he turned his parents in he should be in his mid 20s now I think? But he seems a lot older, maybe he just looks it. I also wonder how the beast titan works since it seems like it has abilities similar to the coordinate. He's definitely ~25 with a kickass beard. This is just my speculation, but I imagine he feels he looks too much like his dad while clean-shaven.
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Catalina posted:That’s one of the reasons Eldia was able to use them as such effective biological weapons. Well it's why they were effective for Marley. We don't really know too much of what they said about Eldia is true. (Though I would presume they did use Titans as weapons.)
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MonsterEnvy posted:Well it's why they were effective for Marley. We don't really know too much of what they said about Eldia is true. (Though I would presume they did use Titans as weapons.) They apparently turned a few thousand peasants into a giant ring of walls so I'm sure using them as cannon fodder was NBD to pre-conquest Eldia.  That said, for sure everything we know about the past is propaganda, from both Marley and the restorationists. I wonder if we will ever get (historical) Ymir's story or if the past will remain uncovered ("To you, in two thousand years...").
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e: NO. SPOILERS.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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In the old Eldian empire, the Beast Titan must've been the most powerful cause no other titan can launch a 90kg stone over 300 meters.
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Well it seems like having royal blood gives bonus power so it could just be that.
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SpartanIvy posted:Well it seems like having royal blood gives bonus power so it could just be that. Royal blood doesn't make you a living trebuchet.
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There's also the power up vials, like the one with armor. That seems like a separate thing from the 9 different shifters. The beast titan could be hopped up on extra buffs for all we know.
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ATP_Power posted:Royal blood doesn't make you a living trebuchet. ...or does it 
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ATP_Power posted:In the old Eldian empire, the Beast Titan must've been the most powerful cause no other titan can launch a 90kg stone over 300 meters. There certainly seem to be some balance issues. You've got some titans that are complete badasses like Armored, Athletic, and Attack titan. Then you got this little quadruped goober and whatever Ymir is supposed to be.
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I want to believe there's been at least some attempt at sciencing their way into getting the kind of titan aspects they want. You don't just have little jars of titan spinal fluid without knowing at least what reactions they're gonna have, and the marleyans have had plenty of time to mess around with them.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:They apparently turned a few thousand peasants into a giant ring of walls so I'm sure using them as cannon fodder was NBD to pre-conquest Eldia.
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SpartanIvy posted:Also Zeke is the only titan shifter we've seen that can talk as a titan which has got to be a royalty perk. Ymir was able to brokenly talk in titan form, and the quadruped titan also talks.
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Captain Invictus posted:6 million
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I guess there is a guidebook written by Isayama(based on some quick searching, which you obviously should not do until you catch up with the manga since I was greeted with some major later spoilers despite only searching for wall titan) where they mention that there's a quarter millionish colossal titans inside wall maria, so if you go a bit under tripling that since Maria is by far the largest of the walls, that's about 500-600k colossal titans. Still, uh, apocalyptically huge amounts of them.
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Question, What was the last flashback of when Eren touched Historia's hand?
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After Bert kicked a hole in the walls the first time, Grisha paid the Reiss family a visit.
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Yeah it's when Grisha stole the founding titan and killed the Reiss family. Seemingly because Freida refused to save the people being wiped out by the titans.
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Seems like a good reason to me. Really recast a lot of the angst Eren was going through in the first half of season 3 with the whole "my father doomed us" arc. And it means everything the king was saying to Historia was a lie.
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