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Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
It's interesting and fun to think about but I don't take it very seriously

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byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

just fukken lmao if u take anything seriously

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
It bad, OP


But then again so is most things

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/inside-the-european-far-rights-weird-obsession-with-paganism/79101

quote:

I meet Edgar Foxbottom (name changed) on a beautiful spring day in the Jardin de Tuileries. In a vintage button-up shirt, tailored slacks and polished loafers, he looks like a time traveler from a chicer Parisian era, and sophisticated far beyond his twentysomething years. As we watch children pilot wooden sailboats on the artificial pond in front of the Louvre, Foxbottom buys us tea. We sip and talk about the seemingly countless statues of Greek and Roman gods and goddesses in the museum. “You see, the difference between monotheistic religions like Islam and Christianity and polytheistic ones is that we European pagans never had global conquest in mind,” he explains, overlooking, say, the Roman Empire. “These violent religions need to go back to the desert.”

History challenged or not, Foxbottom is one of a growing number of Europeans who subscribe to a racially charged brand of neo-paganism. Unlike the peace-loving, crystal-wielding neo-pagans who practice a universalistic mixture of Wicca and shamanism, these polytheists believe that Europeans are aligned in some deep-seated genetic way with their ancestors’ ancient religions. The migrant crisis of 2015 and recent terrorist attacks have only served to swell the ranks of disaffected right-leaning millennials who are turning to ultranationalism cloaked in neo-paganism in hopes of a return to what they perceive as order.

Racial paganism has its origins in Nazi Germany. Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler was a well-known occultist who led several campaigns to re-paganize the country. One of his projects was transforming Wewelsburg, a Renaissance castle in Westphalia, into a pagan Vatican City — to be the capital of the Nazi global empire following a wished-for German victory in World War II.

Today, right-wing extremist political parties like the Golden Dawn in Greece and CasaPound in Italy, who reject Catholicism in favor of ancient Greek and Roman polytheism, violently defend their homelands from “desert” and “invasive” religions. In 2015, CasaPound members and angry locals in the village of Quinto di Treviso, northwest of Venice, descended on an empty apartment complex designed to house immigrants and trashed the place, setting fire to beds and breaking televisions.

During the Golden Dawn’s parliamentary campaign in 2015, party member Ilias Panagiotaros proclaimed in a fiery speech at a rally in Athens that “if Golden Dawn gets into Parliament, we will carry out raids on hospitals and kindergartens, and we will throw immigrants and their children out in the streets so Greeks can take their place.” Golden Dawn ended up winning 18 seats, making it the third-largest party in parliament. Later that year, attacks on immigrants reportedly doubled.

Once seen as thuggish and on the fringe, Europe’s right-wing pagans have received increased media attention as they’ve assumed a more mainstream aesthetic. Gone are the medieval-style arming hoods and other over-the-top fascist fashion statements of euro-pagan bands like Death in June or Blood Axis; instead, the polytheists are more aligned with Foxbottom’s look. Furthermore, potential neo-pagans don’t have to declare allegiance to the old gods when they join a political party; think-tank groups like Erkenbrand in Holland and the Iliad Institute in France give adherents the option of ascribing to nationalist pagan ideologies without participating in ritualistic ceremonies.

Other neo-pagan messaging is staying on brand. Erkenbrand and the Iliad Institute’s websites are slick, minimalist and devoid of the dark colors and ominous runic symbols characteristic of older far-right groups. Within these academic-looking sites, one can find such provocatively titled articles as “Why Does It Matter if the White Race Becomes Extinct?” and “Immigration Catastrophe — What Is to Be Done?”

Erkenbrand and the Iliad Institute brand themselves to appeal to youths, with the latter group hosting training sessions that promise to awaken “the people and nations of Europe in order to combat the risk of ’great erasure’ of our civilization and to renew the common thread of our identity.” As Cynthia Miller-Idriss, associate professor of education and sociology at the American University and author of the forthcoming book Extreme Gone Mainstream, explains, “When people feel unsettled by social change, these kinds of ideologies draw on Utopian fantasies about national restoration to a simpler, more rooted time. It is similar to the appeal of calls to foreign fighters to help restore the Islamic caliphate.”

The notion of heroism is deeply intertwined with the neo-pagan right’s use of Norse and Celtic imagery. Members of the Soldiers of Odin, a Finnish anti-immigrant vigilante group that formed in 2015 to patrol the streets of Kemi, wear jackets emblazoned with the likeness of the god who ruled Valhalla. Images of Viking, Germanic and Roman warriors with inflated muscles and bloodied broadswords abound on the websites of the Iliad Institute, Erkenbrand and, more recently, its American counterpart Identity Europa. Eric Kurlander, author of Hitler’s Monsters, explains this “second-hand” appropriation of racial paganism is “mediated through the lens of contemporary culture — comic books, popular movies, video games, pulp fiction and fantasy literature, etc.”

A subsection of the Iliad Institute’s suggested reading list is dedicated to graphic novels and comic books. “The young militant neo-pagan sees himself as both the defender of European values and heir of a long line of misanthropes who lost everything for their cause,” explains Stéphane François, a political scientist and specialist in right-wing neo-paganism. These misanthropes, of course, include the likes of Heinrich Himmler.

As we finish our second tea and the sun sinks low in the sky, Foxbottom and I say our goodbyes. “The lone wolves are gathering,” he says cryptically before leaving with a shy yet serious smile. Not knowing how to respond, I head to the Louvre, curious to see the marble statues of the old gods.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
does one choose the nom de guerre "Edgar Foxbottom" or have it chosen for them?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
I’m sure it’s based on his furry pseudonym

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

frankenfreak posted:

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too

Hail satan
Hail Satan tonight
Hail Satan
Hail hail

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

satan is a libertarian

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

StashAugustine posted:

satan is a libertarian

Which is why you need to accept Christbol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijokd6uoMvg

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

when you die you go to heaven. there is no hell

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
you're living in hell buddy

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3z2Pm7Iwg

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0f78MDOUJw

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyoL8tjB_hc

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY0Ib3aPG6Y

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void








twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author


Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered. When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. "How did the fig tree wither so quickly?" they asked. Jesus replied, "Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."

- Matthew 21:18-22

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author


From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 25 And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria.

- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Book about badass wizards

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author


The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a]4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssopbe brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.
8 “The person to be cleansed must wash their clothes, shave off all their hair and bathe with water; then they will be ceremonially clean. After this they may come into the camp, but they must stay outside their tent for seven days. 9 On the seventh day they must shave off all their hair; they must shave their head, their beard, their eyebrows and the rest of their hair. They must wash their clothes and bathe themselves with water, and they will be clean.
10 “On the eighth day they must bring two male lambs and one ewe lamb a year old, each without defect, along with three-tenths of an ephah[b] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, and one log[c] of oil. 11 The priest who pronounces them clean shall presentboth the one to be cleansed and their offerings before the Lord at the entrance to the tent of meeting.
12 “Then the priest is to take one of the male lambs and offer it as a guilt offering, along with the log of oil; he shall wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 13 He is to slaughter the lamb in the sanctuary area where the sin offering[d] and the burnt offering are slaughtered. Like the sin offering, the guilt offering belongs to the priest; it is most holy.14 The priest is to take some of the blood of the guilt offering and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 15 The priest shall then take some of the log of oil, pour it in the palm of his own left hand, 16 dip his right forefinger into the oil in his palm, and with his finger sprinkle some of it before the Lord seven times. 17 The priest is to put some of the oil remaining in his palm on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering. 18 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed and make atonement for them before the Lord.
19 “Then the priest is to sacrifice the sin offering and make atonement for the one to be cleansed from their uncleanness. After that, the priest shall slaughter the burnt offering 20 and offer it on the altar, together with the grain offering, and make atonement for them, and they will be clean.
21 “If, however, they are poor and cannot afford these, they must take one male lamb as a guilt offering to be waved to make atonement for them, together with a tenth of an ephah[e] of the finest flour mixed with olive oil for a grain offering, a log of oil, 22 and two doves or two young pigeons, such as they can afford, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering.
23 “On the eighth day they must bring them for their cleansing to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting, before the Lord. 24 The priest is to take the lamb for the guilt offering,together with the log of oil, and wave them before the Lord as a wave offering. 25 He shall slaughter the lamb for the guilt offering and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 26 The priest is to pour some of the oil into the palm of his own left hand, 27 and with his right forefinger sprinkle some of the oil from his palm seven times before the Lord.28 Some of the oil in his palm he is to put on the same places he put the blood of the guilt offering—on the lobe of the right ear of the one to be cleansed, on the thumb of their right hand and on the big toe of their right foot. 29 The rest of the oil in his palm the priest shall put on the head of the one to be cleansed, to make atonement for them before the Lord. 30 Then he shall sacrifice the doves or the young pigeons, such as the person can afford, 31 one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering,together with the grain offering. In this way the priest will make atonement before the Lord on behalf of the one to be cleansed.”
32 These are the regulations for anyone who has a defiling skin disease and who cannot afford the regular offerings for their cleansing.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

how did i never hear of this movie

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Book about badass wizards

The majority of the chapters in the Acts of Peter, describe the contest between Simon Magus, the one working on behalf of Satan, and Peter, the one working on behalf of Christ. So let's consider the story of Simon Magnus. We read about a Simon in Acts 8. There he is a Samaritan and a sorcerer. He is described in Acts as someone "to whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God." (Acts 8:10) Nonetheless, when Philip came to town and began teaching about Jesus Christ, the people started following Philip. Simon also heard Philip's teaching and was baptized. Whether he truly believed or was simply enamored with Philip's healing skills can be argued both ways.

When word got back to Jerusalem, the church sent Peter and John to Samaria. This is when it gets interesting. Peter and John laid hands on believers who then received the Holy Ghost. This impressed Simon to no end. He wanted to be able to do that and offered Peter money for the power. Peter rebuked him soundly for such thinking and warned of dire consequences that would befall him. This request – the desire to exchange material goods for spiritual powers – would become known as the sin of simony. After Peter's rebuke, Simon repented and apparently went on his way.

Apparently Simon believed he was God in human form. In the Acts of Peter, Simon is living in the home of Marcellus, a Senator who believed in him. This bothered the Christian brothers who thought highly of Marcellus and thought he had been bewitched by Simon. So they approached Peter with the idea of fighting Simon. Eventually, Peter went to the house of Marcellus. He saw a dog there that was bound with a great chain. He went to the dog and unchained him, at which point the dog asked what Peter wanted him to do. Peter told him to go inside and talk to Simon. The people could hear the dog talking inside.

After seeing this, Marcellus came out and threw himself at Peter's feet, confessing his sins. Peter prayed that the Lord would forgive his sins and embraced him. In the middle of this, Peter noticed a man in the crowd who had an "evil spirit." When the man was identified, he threw himself against a wall. Peter prayed for him. Nonetheless, the evil spirit in the man tormented him and caused him to break a statue of Caesar with his bare hands. Marcellus and the others were appalled. Apparently one just didn't break statues of Caesar without serious repercussions. Concerned for their well-being, Peter sprinkled water upon the stones and restored the statue. Obviously, Marcellus and all those outside became true believers immediately.

In the meantime, Simon told the dog to go back outside and tell Peter that he wasn't there. The dog came back out and delivered Simon's message. Then the dog told Peter its vision, namely, that he would have a great contest with Simon so that all who had been deceived by him would turn to the faith. With this, the dog lay at Peter's feet and "gave up the ghost." The people were amazed. Turning, Peter saw a herring hung in a nearby window. He took that herring and said if people would see it swimming, they would surely believe that the one Peter preached was true. He then cast it into a bath, and the herring began to swim – for a very long time so that many people were able to come by and see it. Many followed Peter and believed in the Lord, including Marcellus.

But eventually, Marcellus had to go back to his house where Simon was still staying. When he saw Simon sitting in his house dining, he cursed him, beat him, and had his servants throw him out. Simon sought out Peter to challenge him for believing in a man who was a Jew and a carpenter's son.

Instead of going out to meet Simon, Peter sent a woman with a suckling child. He told the woman not to say anything, but to let the child do the talking. The seven-month old child spoke in a man's voice and told Simon he was abhorred of God, among other things, and suggested he leave Rome at his earliest convenience. Simon was also struck dumb and had little choice but to depart. One might think that would have ended the matter, but Simon continued to do much mischief, which included stealing from widows and other vulnerable people. Not long after, he showed up again, and he and Peter went head to head, doing many miracles, oftentimes to a draw.

Simon, however, was not satisfied with a draw because he realized people were falling away from him, so he told them that on the morrow he would go up to his Father. Well, the next day a ton of people gathered to see him flying. Peter had a vision that he would do this. Simon did, indeed, begin flying. Peter prayed that Jesus would decide the matter and that the man would fall from the heights and be disabled. Simon did fall and broke his leg in three places. People stoned him, and that was the end of Simon.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007
twoday posting the bibles greatest hits but didn’t post the horse cock one, smh

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
I don't know that one

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

twoday posted:

I don't know that one

There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

twoday posted:



From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!”

- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Dont dox me

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment
didn't know about the talking dog thing. christianity's cool now.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

twoday posted:



From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy!” they said. “Get out of here, baldy!” 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the Lord. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 25 And he went on to Mount Carmel and from there returned to Samaria.

- 2 Kings 2:23-24

Hey, don't be an rear end in a top hat. That's something the boys should have known.

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

spirituality and belief in higher forces isn't necessarily bad, sometimes even useful. depends on the religion and its specific ideas re: the nature of the supernatural/divine

abrahamic religions aren't real great imo. really all revelation-based/monotheistic stuff is inherently authoritarian and patriarchal despite the (very commendable) efforts of some followers to interpret it in a more progressive and tolerant way. I'm not a big fan of the fact that basically half the planet subscribes to it in some form, but whatever it's your life/afterlife, just don't kill or oppress anybody over it

not even the most dogmatic theists are as loving insufferable as dogmatic atheists tho. if you locked me in a room with some gilead motherfucker like pence and a musty dawkinsoid :smug: goon i'd definitely rip the goon in half first

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure for the last days. Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Squizzle posted:

Come now, you rich people, weep and wail for the miseries that are coming to you. Your riches have rotted, and your clothes are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure for the last days. Listen! The wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. You have condemned and murdered the righteous one, who does not resist you.

:thurman:

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/opinion/sunday/christianity-communism.html

Ayn Randi
Mar 12, 2009


Grimey Drawer
have you considered that all conditioned phenomena are impermanent and void of an inherent nature? even... posting

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/andrewheiss/status/1018567645577113600?s=19

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Ayn Randi posted:

have you considered that all conditioned phenomena are impermanent and void of an inherent nature? even... posting

i reject this as a bummer. & proclaim love in its fullness as the whole shebang

Catboy Autonomist
Jun 23, 2018

IS IT SUPWISING THAT PWISONS WESEMBWE FACTOWIES, SCHOOWS, WHICH AWW WESEMBWE PWISONS?
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Discuss

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

yes! hahaha YES!

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nonsense posted:

We have gotten to the point where courts have held that morality cannot be a basis for law; where ministers are fearful to affirm, as they understand it, holy writ from the pulpit; and where one group can actively target religious groups by labeling them a “hate group” on the basis of their sincerely held religious beliefs.

-Jeff Sessions, 7/30/18

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

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