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Casimir Radon posted:Could this be considered undue command influence? Not that it matters to congress. Hasn't there only been like one or two cases where undue command influence was actually found in a Court's martial by higher level generals? My understanding is that generally the UCMJ finds that four stars and the president pretty much never do anything wrong.
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crazyivan45 posted:I thought this administration already had one case hosed up as Donnie’s tweets were seen as UCI? Was it the Bergdahl trial? I mean, his lawyers argued that. The judge found that he was unaffected by Trump's comments, no UCI. Aside from that I think James Amos and the whole jarheads peeing on corpses thing was the only recent example of UCI found by a four star, and he was retired by the time that ruling came down. Crakkerjakk fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Aug 1, 2018 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Yes. Judge said it wasn't. But that he might take it into consideration at sentencing as mitigation, which is a wierd "it totes wasn't, but maybe it still was some."
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Mr. Nice! posted:You say that, but absolutely nothing else has so far. Yup. Though it would be hilarious if a bunch of Trump's close associates and family went to prison on state charges he couldn't pardon.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Nah. The country is not in a position to amend the constitution anytime soon in a way that benefits anyone other than people just like Trump. I don't have faith that anything is going to get better, and in fact, things are still going to get much worse. Yup. Trump is a symptom, not a cause, and no one in power seems to be seriously thinking beyond the next 2-4 years, certainly not in any way that might disrupt the system by which they achieved power.
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Aug 4, 2018 19:30
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As I've said before, my 10-15 year plan is leaving the US for anywhere that doesn't have a substantial far right political movement and has a sane loving health care system. It is so far beyond insane that we're still charging people that much to have kids when most of the rest of the world has figured out how to do that poo poo for about half the cost we pay here (and in many cases with lower risk of complications.). And it's not like it's just kids, the whole loving US system is brimming with poo poo like that.
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Aug 7, 2018 04:21
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maffew buildings posted:Then adopt Adopting is also ridiculously expensive, though more in a "luxury sedan" price bracket instead of the "yacht" bracket. And typically not covered at all by health insurance, I believe.
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psydude posted:I think ICE is the Gestapo and CBP/BP are more akin to the Italian conscripts that super failed to defend Sicily. Takeaway being that they all fuckin' suck
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Yeah, actual rifles are pretty cheap. On the other hand, the metal hand brake on an A-frame used to unspool field Telecom wire was like $700. And a km of fiber was $50k when I was in.
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Aug 8, 2018 18:55
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psydude posted:Buried? Try "lies on the ground for people to trip over". We had a km of fiber we had to pretty much toss because one of my jackass PFCs ran it through a crawlspace under a building, decided it wouldn't look tidy to have the reel sitting at the connection point, and so unreeled the whole mess in the crawlspace, then grabbed one end and tugged it to where he was supposed to hook it up. Yanking it into a tighter and tighter rats nest under the building as he was walking broke it in like a million places so we couldn't just send it to be repaired at the one break point. Then there was the time the customs guy failed to lock the back of our comm Hummer after looking in there to make sure we weren't smuggling in alcohol or porn, so when we we're convoying from the airport to the iraq/Kuwait border the back door swing open and a km of fiber dropped out the back of the Hummer at 2 AM. I stole another reel from another company that didn't believe in gear guards and just cut the serial number tags off of it.
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Aug 8, 2018 19:54
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facialimpediment posted:You didn't steal a drat thing, that's called midnight requisitioning! Broad daylight. Much less suspicious.
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My former recon mustang CO liked to call it Surreptitious Transportation of Equipment to an Alternate Location.
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Aug 8, 2018 20:49
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Hot Karl Marx posted:You don't lay the fibre then put a concrete structure around it? I guess in war zones you wouldn't but most major fibre I see at work is inside a concrete structure. Same with most buried primary hydro I was mobile comms when I was in, generally expecting to move pretty often. We could tear down and set up comms for a BN HQ about six times in a day (though after 24 hours we had to slow down as sleep deprivation kicked in). So doing permanent installs wasn't really something we practiced much. Mostly you just tried to bury it or run it through culverts to get across roads. And this quantity of fiber is about the diameter of your pinky.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I get this and I feel it now and again but then I remind myself of some facts. MAGA chuds are a very large percentage of the nation. "Full communism now" leftists are only significant on the internet. Most Bernie supporters voted for Clinton. The purity testers are loud but there just aren't that many of them in reality. Plus, all groups of people will have those among them that will find ways to claim to be more pure and better than all the other people who share their interests, and will be complete and total douchebags in pursuit of that goal. It can be university or local politics, model train enthusiasts, tabletop RPG nerds, whatever. It's just (an ugly and frustrating) part of human nature.
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There was also the thing recently with Maxine Waters where Pelosi thought it was just horrific that politicians would be politely asked to leave a restaurant for aggressively defending concentration camps.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The thing about Pelosi is... who would replace her? Being speaker requires the ability to twist and cajole people into voting for things they don't necessarily want to vote for, utilizing both personal and professional relationships. The reason why Pelosi is so effective is because she's been there for so long, and has the relationships, experience, and force of personality to control her caucus with an iron fist. I mean, maybe. Whole bunch of Democrats voted for the recent bank deregulation bill, which means either she wasn't able to whip them to oppose it or she thinks it's a great idea if she's got such iron control of the Dems in the house. The question is gonna be whether when the Dems get back in power she'll be behind the president (whoever that is) or if her ability to whip the party will mysteriously degrade when it comes to pro-corporate poo poo. On a separate note, I have no idea why people are paying attention to what Omorosa says. Like, we all know she lies for personal advantage and is totally fine working for authoritarian racists so long as it makes her a buck, right? I mean sure, Trump probably has used all kinds of racial slurs. Omorosa saying it happened is worthless as evidence if that fact, right? I never watched the apprentice, just know who she is from general pop culture references and the bit where she got kicked out of the white house, but everyone knows you can't trust a thing she says without a corroborating witness, right? Is that somehow the wrong impression?
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I mostly reserve "Nazis" for people who hate Jews, like swastikas, think Hitler was alright, etc. I find some combination of authoritarians, fascists, white supremacists, and white nationalists works to describe most of the various flavors of awfulness.
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1029397532449767425?s=19 Guessing they're going for "we poked enough holes in the prosecution's case for there to be reasonable doubt (we hope), and since our client is guilty as gently caress we're going to try to appear self-confidently righteous since any evidence or witnesses we tried to present would just get torn apart by the prosecution."
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Casimir Radon posted:poo poo still makes me nervous. I mean, all it takes is one chud on the jury for nullification. But this is trial 1 of 2, right? This is on financial crimes only? So we'll see.
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Immanentized posted:Hope yall like protein slime. We'd be okay if 90% of the population went vegetarian. Food wise anyways. We can also turn around climate change if we treat it like WW2 level mobilization of industry and immediately stopped pulling new carbon out of the ground, and accelerated shuttering existing carbon-based power generation, starting with coal. We won't do that because we're loving morons. But the obstacle is not physics (yet). It's politics/human nature.
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:It depends. Cutting down on meat consumption would probably help more than eliminating it outright. Eating a cow that lived its whole life in your county is better than eating a ton of fruits and vegetables that were grown across the country. I saw a study that suggested vegan was only the 5th most eco friendly diet because some land is better suited for pasture and not using it is less efficient. That's why I said 90%. People in the far north, nomadic herding people's, etc, there's a lot of people who would still need to eat meat. Majority of the people on the planet though, the existing farmland can repurposed from growing feed for livestock to growing food for people, and with plenty of land leftover to reforest. Especially if you focus on healthy and nutritious fruits and vegetables instead of assloads of corn and soy (though soy is actually pretty decent as food for people). I would be curious if those measures of eco-friendly diets included how overfished the oceans currently are and how much more likely they are to shortly be extra hosed, though.
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Immanentized posted:The fishing isn't necessarily the big nations is it? Like I know China is pulling a ton of aggressive nonsense, but as to over-fishing, isn't it desperate countries going farther and farther away in search of exploitable populations? Pretty sure a lot of Asia is killing the gently caress out of their local seafood populations, but that's just a guess, I don't have data.
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my kinda ape posted:Managing livestock alongside regular crops is better for the soil and sequesters more carbon (in poop) than not raising livestock. Obviously feeding a bunch of animals with grain in feedlots doesn't really have any environmental benefits but everyone going vegan entirely would be worse than raising meat in conjunction with grains. Also as Bulky said there's an enormous amount of land that is far better suited to grazing than farming. Like, if livestock were just free range grazing and eating waste scraps of inedible parts of plants produced for people, no feedlots in sight, I'd buy it. But I'd guess that's also a world with like 5% (max) of existing livestock populations compared to how we do poo poo most places these days. Also, treat people poop (as well as veggie bits not eaten by animals) and then use it as compost.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Manure tends to have higher levels of heavy metals the higher trophic level you get. Human waste is not an ideal fertilizer. Does that still hold if the human diet is 95% plants? And sure it's not ideal. Human waste is more likely to have nasty stuff in it that can make people sick if it's not treated properly. Not sure of the NPK balance of humanure either. But there is a cost to having animals around to create safer/better fertilizer. In the case of chickens raised on scraps, it's not much of a cost. In the case of cows, it's a pretty large cost, particularly with how they're raised now, and actually restricting them to land that's only suitable for grazing and feeding them on plant scraps as opposed to purposefully raised livestock feed would result in a lot less livestock and a lot less manure, frequently in areas not close to where human food is being grown.
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Vasudus posted:More than likely what will happen is that an area becomes unsustainable for any of the dozen reasons already listed, people migrate, some are let in to other places but the majority are not. Refugee camps are established at the border, reach a critical mass of people, and then something like drug-resistant tuberculosis wipes them clean like a brush fire. We still don't do anything as a collective group because they aren't *our* people suffering, and as time marches onward and more and more ecosystems fail we stop trying to help altogether because 1) there's too many now and 2) we have to preserve our own people. Eventually things hit critical mass on a global scale and a real war between well equipped countries squares off. Yup.
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There was a small outbreak in May that was contained. This is a new, larger one, 1500 miles away, and in the middle of a whole bunch of armed groups that don't trust outsiders or each other.
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bird food bathtub posted:Manafort's entire defense at this point is basically, 'Nuh-uh!' and they said their piece during cross examination. If they bring any witnesses in defense they'd get munched up and spit out by a gleefully grinning prosecution and they're not exactly brimming with evidence of his innocence. It probably is in his best interest, such as it is, to not do anything more. Also, hang in there for a pardon and don't make it worse by bringing up any more poo poo in open court that might make your former employers (including Trump) or business associates look even worse.
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Grognan posted:They deleted his account. His lawyer is saying he deleted his own account.
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:They have twin peaks there as well for maximum mediocrity. My girlfriend wanted to go there because she liked the show. I had to explain it wasn't related to the show and did not have drat fine coffee.
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It's the feeding of more and more extreme viewpoints to people and creation of echochambers, IMO. To keep you glued to the screen, they keep suggesting material that is an escalation of content you've shown interest in in the past. It's a recipe for radicalization that preys on the same brain chemistry that drives addiction.
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I only got summoned once when I was busy invading Iraq. Would kind of like to do it someday.
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DoktorLoken posted:Any thoughts on that bit? I'm guessing they got enough prison time on the plea to be happy, and seized enough documents and recordings from the raids of his home, office, hotel, and storage unit that they don't need his testimony for whomever else they might be going after.
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M_Gargantua posted:Who drinks tequila after they turn 21? Only good in mixed drinks smh Sounds like you drink lovely tequila. The good stuff is sippable just like scotch.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Apropos of nothing in particular, I'm looking to buy a nice bottle of scotch for when Trump finally, for whatever reason, leaves office. Do you like peaty? Laphroaig cask strength and Talisker Storm are both good if so, with Storm a bit less peaty. Edit: Lagavulin is also good.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Except that you have to pay good scotch prices to get drinkable tequila. Scotch prices, yes. Not good scotch prices, IMO. Edit: Hell, Kirkland brand anejo isn't "good" per se, but for the price it's a perfectly sippable one. Crakkerjakk fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 22, 2018 |
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That Works posted:Probably our best bet. I really think the Dems need to start using the phrase "constitutional crisis" to talk about how you deal with someone getting to high political office via fraud of various types. Then when Trump's finally gone and Reps try to act like all the poo poo he managed to get implemented is just as valid as any other president they can laugh in their faces and have already primed their voters to be on board when the Dems play procedural hardball like the Reps normally do. They won't because a bunch of the Dems are also going to try to pretend Trump never happened as well, but meh.
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Don Dongington posted:Surely the best outcome is one where Pence doesn't wind up in the oval Office though. Yup. Pretty much.
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Deathy McDeath posted:What kind of electoral effect would the House voting for impeachment, but the Senate failing to convict, have on the 2020 election? Surely it would at least chill turnout somewhat, right? Probably drive turnout for both.
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boop the snoot posted:Read the first three sentences and then the very last sentence. Then try to figure out how the transition happened. It’s like a game! I mean, it's not like it makes sense even if you read straight through.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Remember when he kept selling arms to KSA as they bombed Yemen civilians? But he occasionally made a disapproving face! Edit: We're also providing targetting Intel, and I believe maintenance in KSA and mid-air refueling. Crakkerjakk fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Aug 23, 2018 |
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