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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Welcome to the August thread. It's election time again! For some executive and policy positions in the Labour Party if you're a card carrying Party member.
The elections will be for the NEC, where the Momentum slate is:

forkboy84 posted:

Yasmine Dar, Huda Elmi, Rachel Garnham, Ann Henderson, Jon Lansman, Navendu Mishra, Claudia Webbe, Darren Williams and Peter Willsman.

and for the National Policy Forum, where the Momentum backed candidates for each region are listed here.


(Do not vote for this man.)

Brexit News :sax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpC6GlBFo0
• Days until Brexit

Other News :guitar:
• 'Cannabis derived medicines' are now legal in the UK. A good forward step, but one that still keeps it in the hands of large HO licensed companies producing the same oil product as the plants do.
• The Supreme Court says that people in a persistant vegetative state can have their life support withdrawn without a court order now, potentially giving May a way out of Brexit.
• Vote Leave is fined and referred to police for breaking electoral law.
• The Home Office is accused of misleading the High Court about rejected child asylum claims.
• Labour launched a consultation on a new statutory youth service, a universal basic service with elements of Scotlands violence reduction schemes.
• The Conservatives are promoting food banks for children over the summer holidays. And also tried to win the youth vote with knock off Love Island water bottles.

Previous Threads:

UKMT July 2018 - It's Coming H...oh
UKMT June 2018 - They frequent seldome any pastymes or sportes
UKMT May 2018 - Slithers Off Rudd/Say no to hamophobia
UKMT April 2018 - A Third World Banana Republic Kleptocracy
UKMT March 2018 - Fanfare for the Gammon Man
UKMT Feb 18 - Goverment Clowns DTF UKMT February 2018 - Auntie May's Sloppy Wet Kiss Day of the Two Threads!
UKMT January 2018 - ++Knighthood for Loser Clegg++

All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

Other Threads of Interest:
Europol Thread
Scotpol Thread
Trainchat Thread
Political Cartoons Thread
BYOB: UKMT

Podcasts and Voicy Stuff:
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.

Books to Read and Radicalize You Are Self:
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Cafι – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

UKMT CLP Commissars (thanks feedmegin)

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - mfcrocker, Barry Foster, Pistol_Pete, Rarity
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cunninghame North/South - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Loughborough - feedmegin
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Rochford and Southend East - DesperateDan
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
SE Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Sheffield south east - Cast_no_shadow
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport Central - Taear
Swansea West - Borrovan
Watford - SpaceCommie

The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons)

Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff
#ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix).

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Aug 7, 2018

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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Who adds stuff to the effortpost thing because there was a really good one last month about internet stuff.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

serious gaylord posted:

Who adds stuff to the effortpost thing because there was a really good one last month about internet stuff.

My name's like right next to it in the OP...

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Now I'm thinking about Michael Gove on Love Island :gonk:

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

You are thinking of that picture of him drinking water.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Rarity posted:

Now I'm thinking about Michael Gove on Love Island :gonk:

just think what he does with those lips considering how he drinks water

Blinks77
Feb 15, 2012

Rarity posted:

Now I'm thinking about Michael Gove on Love Island

Now I'm thinking about Michael Gove :gonk:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
maybe sarah vine finds their sex life so disappointing because she likes being spanked and we all know how bad he is at clapping

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Rarity posted:

Now I'm thinking about Michael Gove on Love Island :gonk:
Gove Island is a rock formation off of Ilfracombe that is known to periodically sink and resurface. Archeologists have found remains of an earthenware culture not found elsewhere in Britain or Europe. Reports of cultist activity and strange half human half sea creature sightings are not to be believed.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/mabeloo/status/1024340663721029632

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

My name's like right next to it in the OP...

I never said I was smart op.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
This is bad for Jeremy Corbyn.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Reposting my fancy spinning hammer/sickles for the new thread. Pretend it's 2002 with these 56k-friendly GIFs!

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://www.niesr.ac.uk/media/press-release-prospects-uk-economy-13461

quote:

As before, the central forecast has been conditioned on a ‘soft’ Brexit assumption where the UK achieves close to full access to the EU market for goods and services. If instead of this soft Brexit scenario we assume that the government achieves the somewhat more restrictive white paper proposals, the output loss will amount to £500 per person per year over time compared with the soft Brexit scenario. The loss would be around £800 under a ‘no deal’ Brexit. These estimates do not include the likely impact on productivity which could, on some estimates, double the size of the losses.

:great:

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
did we win brexit yet

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Guavanaut posted:

Gove Island is a rock formation off of Ilfracombe that is known to periodically sink and resurface. Archeologists have found remains of an earthenware culture not found elsewhere in Britain or Europe. Reports of cultist activity and strange half human half sea creature sightings are not to be believed.

I think even the Deep Ones would take a long look at Gove, and only then begrudgingly admit he was probably one of theirs.

[e]:

josh04 posted:

Reposting my fancy spinning hammer/sickles for the new thread. Pretend it's 2002 with these 56k-friendly GIFs!



Neat! :golfclap:

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Aug 1, 2018

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/31/fears-cash-strapped-council-may-cut-services-for-vulnerable-children

quote:

The funding crisis facing local authorities has deepened after a Tory-run council warned services for vulnerable children and adults can no longer be protected as it prepared drastic measures to survive ongoing financial difficulties described as “without parallel in modern times”.

:yeah:

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
It's OK guys, we're in tip-top shape as a country right now, which will help to soften the blow when Hard Brexit comes

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1024582519784697856

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 29 days!

Jose posted:

maybe sarah vine finds their sex life so disappointing because she likes being spanked and we all know how bad he is at clapping

Counterpoint with a mouth like Goves got, he should be a black belt pussy eating master.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Today's Wright Stuff topics:

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Fumble posted:

Counterpoint with a mouth like Goves got, he should be a black belt pussy eating master.

More like a horse eating a sugar lump.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

BUT JEH-REH-MEH COR-BEN HATES JOOS

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1024569644588453888

There isn't a gap for centre left politics.

There is a gap for Left wing Authoritarianism.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

HJB posted:

Today's Wright Stuff topics:



god the wright stuff is a turd to the eyeballs

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1024569644588453888

There isn't a gap for centre left politics.

There is a gap for Left wing Authoritarianism.

Jeremy Stalin it is

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gonzo McFee posted:

There is a gap for Left wing Authoritarianism.
So a party that wants to bring back tough justice and get tough on immigrants while nationalizing industry and guaranteeing jobs.

A party that wants to get tough on 'human rights' and 'identity politics' while regulating big business and the banksters.

A party that wants a third way between nationalist capitalism and internationalist socialism, with the family replacing Marxist pseudovalues.

Yeah, the BNP already exists and they're already bad.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!



:: ITSHAPPENING.GIF ::

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1024569644588453888

There isn't a gap for centre left politics.

There is a gap for Left wing Authoritarianism.

surprising amount of "i wish there was a major party representing the current policy"

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Joris Bonson

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

So a party that wants to bring back tough justice and get tough on immigrants while nationalizing industry and guaranteeing jobs.

A party that wants to get tough on 'human rights' and 'identity politics' while regulating big business and the banksters.

A party that wants a third way between nationalist capitalism and internationalist socialism, with the family replacing Marxist pseudovalues.

Yeah, the BNP already exists and they're already bad.

I never said it was a good thing.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1024569644588453888

There isn't a gap for centre left politics.

There is a gap for Left wing Authoritarianism.

Not sure what to make of this since a bunch of these are like "the government's current approach is correct" and then a third of those people think none of the main parties agree including the one that's in government?

On the positive side most of the good stuff has people mostly believing there's a party supporting it. Of course we don't know if they're all "I agree with the Tories that the NHS needs more money!" or whatever

Gum posted:

surprising amount of "i wish there was a major party representing the current policy"

Yeah. Also "none of the parties want to leave the EU"

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Come join us on the unofficial official UKMT Discord!

On offer: memes. Weebly trash. Some political content. Discussions about which roads are still closed due to fire in Glasgow.

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
hahahaha look at the 1 positive

https://twitter.com/zachjourno/status/1024580567558496256

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
tommy robinson has been freed

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

^^^ the state of this though


a long weekend for Martin White in that case

Xeno
Sep 16, 2005

MAD TYTE DUBZ, YO.
#freetommy free

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.


quote:

This scenario would likely see May's government agreeing to implement "intelligence-led controls" whereby only certain individuals are targeted for processing by officials rather than imposing full checks on all new EU arrivals.

The intelligence being a brown paper bag, presumably.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

quote:

The data also shows that Leave voters are more likely than Remain voters across the board to feel unrepresented in their views. Likewise, those who voted Conservative in 2017 are more likely than Labour and Liberal Democrat voters to feel that none of the main political parties represent their views.

This presents a particular opportunity for any new party that would be looking to occupy a space in the political landscape that would appeal to Leave voters – whilst Leave voters flocked to the Conservatives in 2017 due to their status as the party of Brexit, once Britain has left the EU those Leave voters who don’t feel represented by any of the main parties will be up for grabs.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gonzo McFee posted:

I never said it was a good thing.
It's a bit worrying that there's all these pseudofash/actualfash feeling unrepresented though.

A bit less worrying than if they actually were represented, but where are all the 'the justice system is to soft on immigrants on benefits and we should regulate business more' people coming from.

Are these Kelvin MacKenzie's "the bloke you see in the pub, a right old fascist, wants to send the wogs back, buy his poxy council house, he's afraid of the unions, afraid of the Russians, hates the queers and the weirdos and drug dealers"?

baka kaba posted:

On the positive side most of the good stuff has people mostly believing there's a party supporting it. Of course we don't know if they're all "I agree with the Tories that the NHS needs more money!" or whatever
Or "well of course I'd like more money for the NHS but Labour will just invite a bunch of foreigns over to steal it all so I'm going to vote for the tough on benefit crimes party."

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