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Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

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The care which they take to reproduce NYC as it was at that time is incredible. I know, as I actually frequented the arcades at that time that were right on 42nd St. back in the late 70s and 80s.

I saw them doing a lot of shoots all over Manhattan; they got the MTA to take a bunch of their old buses out of mothballs and boy did my jaw drop when I saw several in a line down 42nd St. all with the vintage ads on the side, thought I had accidentally slipped through time into the past when I saw that.

S2 looks to be more of the same; that time was all about low-key incandescent lighting, cheap carpeting, and an affinity for dark reds, dark purples, and blonder than blonde wigs. It's like everyone decided Tad's Steaks was the ideal of civilization to aspire to. Sometimes I still smell those charbroiled steaks mixing with the odor of fermented bodily fluids soaked into the floor when I pass by their old locations.

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Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

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IMDB says it's 8.

Very interesting things this season. Eileen looks like she's about to follow in the footsteps of Candida Royalle, who was a former performer who eventually started her own studio to start doing couples-oriented movies and was one of the first porn directors to accentuate on female porn watchers; this whole episode is telegraphing it.

James Franco seems to revel in playing low-lifes, doesn't he?

This show picks up so well on period culture; Ex-Mayor Koch was never 'outed' but he always kept them guessing (he was the local Congressman for Greenwich Village before running for mayor.) His opponent for mayor then, Mario Cuomo, may have had his goons spread the word by putting up signs with the phrase 'Vote For Cuomo Not The Homo.'

His 'beard,' as referred to in this episode, Bess Myerson, with whom Koch would take great pains to be seen with while running for mayor, was appointed by Koch to be Commissioner of Cultural Affairs in 1983. She wound up having an affair with a married sewer mogul among other things, and was forced to resign by 1987. BTW, she was the first (and so far only) Miss America of Jewish descent.

LOL at them casually throwing in SCREW Magazine (it was more of a newspaper) and references to Al Goldstein.

That diner could have been any of several real diners in the vicinity of 'the Deuce,' they're all probably yogurt bars or delis now.

Also spot on was the barker for the peepshow place; what is interesting to note that up until May of this year, there still was a peepshow place right on 42nd St. near the corner of 8th that still did this same business, sans the live girls (as of 1998.)

http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2018/05/show-world-center.html

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Sep 10, 2018

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

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Vanderdeath posted:

That was a great season opening but I'm going to miss Curtis Mayfield in the opening. The entire opening sequence felt built around that song which makes the switch-up so jarring.

Most likely he wanted more $$$ for the rights so they switched to a backup made for the occasion..

Jerusalem posted:

He makes an extra 300 for her shoot, but they're gonna stop using her if he keeps being a problem.

IMHO CC's already hosed her over; they're more likely to use a girl who isn't going to renegotiate her fees in the middle of the shoot.

That kind of poo poo with his beeper going off in the middle of a shoot is more likely just to get him banned from the studio.

They were still using mostly film at that time, and even Super 8 was expensive. CC is costing them a bundle in wasted media, probably.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Sep 10, 2018

Binary Badger
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Professor Shark posted:

Yeah, this episode made it clear the changing dynamic in pornography and that the age of the pimp was over. CC is obviously still thinking short term, street rip stuff that is a hindrance to the long term, steady money. In general the pimps in this episode seem to be pathetically reminding their advancing (education, career) women of their worth, which only highlights their weaknesses and insecurity.

Worth noting that Darlene is already preparing for the future (GED, taking classes) because she knows she can't do this forever.

Weird that all the women are thinking long-range (except for maybe Shay) and none of the men are.

Still wondering when they're going to show more locations like the Playlands and other arcades that they continuously show in the background; there were quite a few of them at the time, not just on 42nd, and a lot of poo poo went down in them.

Edit: CC and the rest should have gone to the Police Academy.. a bit of current events and 'things never really change in NYC' deal..

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-metro-cops-prostitution-ring-20180912-story.html

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Sep 12, 2018

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

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The scenes in Coney Island were kinda charming and reminded me of a late 90's movie called "Went to Coney Island On a Mission From God - Be Back By Five," where the characters in that movie also went to Coney Island in the winter and found it to be a dystopian hellscape. (Wondered why Frankie didn't visit the Freak Show..)

Sometimes watching this show as a nearly lifelong native NYer detracts from enjoying this show, because I keep seeing glaring inconsistencies crop up in the background. Like for instance, Luna Park.. Luna Park closed down in 1944 and wasn't "revived" until 2010, there was nothing but wasteland there in the timeframe The Deuce takes place in. And yet I'm seeing Frankie and Abby walk past LUNA PARK (they didn't even try to blur or CGI it out) and inside I'm screaming THERE WAS NOTHING BUT ABANDONED BUILDINGS AND A BUMPER CAR ARENA THERE, JFC.

I know David Simon doesn't have the budget to make everything exactly like it was then but jeez, when I see poo poo like that it just takes me out of the story and I have to silently decide this all takes place in an alternate universe NYC where Luna Park was revived in 1975 or something (something no one wanted to do even IRL at that time.)

Also he needed to go to one of the other penny arcades, the one he picked was too new also.. the skee ball machines looked spanking brand new, in the 70s I went there as a kid and they were so old and broken down, with cracks in the corky wood, they looked as if they hadn't been so much as re-lacquered since the 1930s.

The Port Authority never had leather-covered (or even vinyl) seats like in the beginning; they were mostly the same plastic seats from the buses! They did get the look of the terminal right though.. dimly lit, trash everywhere, could have been more graffiti, and those vending machines look like they came from a museum.. whatever few there were working in the real PA at the time were busted and had no glass on them, they replaced them with either plain sheet metal or plexiglass, anything with glass got kicked in.

Very interesting parallels they made between the porn and the horror industry.

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Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

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Sure was funny to see Harvey talk about how VHS was already about to kill Betamax, and it's funny how he mentions CES because eventually the adult film/video industry will actually exhibit -AT- CES years later, and after some rough patches eventually split off and form its own event.

VHS and eventually DVD would make a huge impact as he said, but it was their rental that really cemented the adult video industry.

Had to pinch myself when I realized it was Ralph Macchio playing Haddix, I just knew I recognized him from somewhere..

LOL at the Johnny Carson / Ed McMahon stand-ins for Candy's network interview.

Wonder if Rodney's washed up, he's definitely not staying free on any kind of bail for shooting a cop, assuming he survived (doesn't look good though)

Darlene's exit is hopeful and great.

Welp now season 3 to look forward to...

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Nov 5, 2018

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