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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Discendo Vox posted:

I saw a post about "auto admit" and horrible incel racism at the very end of the last thread, and now I'm intrigued.

What's up with that?

SA for law school, with its own FYAD?
Something that would have been pertinent at the end of iteration #2 or the beginning of iteration #3 of this thread?

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

It's SVs only post in the whole thread.

Generating a helluva return on that investment.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

mastershakeman posted:

I would have hosed that guy up but I was wearing sandals

https://youtu.be/6tdLIL3K0wk?t=8m18s

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Making poo poo up now, totally uncalled for

"Failed even to be hired to snatch brown babies from their mother's breasts."

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Discendo Vox posted:

I heard a sick rumor that there were Yankees fans in this here thread.

Hey, are you {{{Yankish}}}?

Toona the Cat posted:

Everyone knows that Jews are Mets fans.

mastershakeman posted:

There's no way that jews waste their money on such an worthless product

Vox Nihili posted:

Jesus Christ.

Not on him, either.



AR is {{{Yankish}}}

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Discendo Vox posted:


What Substance Abuse Problem Would Jesus Develop?
Uh, Mr. Christ? Your Culligan bill is $777 this month. How are you drinking that much water?
Whaa? Waadah? Noo waada hass pashhed my lipsh for months.



BigHead posted:

Now also imagine that nobody has figured out a way to ferment the water past barely 1/10th of a Budweiser.
Sounds like somebody was raised in a Baptist household...

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Nice piece of fish posted:

If you accept a pardon you also declare your guilt, do you not?
No. However, part of Ford's self-justification for pardoning Nixon was the fiction that you [implicitly] did, which has caused no end of twittering on the subject now that it's about Trump. Ford is said to have kept a clipping of that bit of dicta from the Burdick case in his wallet as a totem that he did the right thing.


Mr. Nice! posted:

Presidential pardon power is basically unlimited and no one challenged it. The only challenges to the pardon power historically just say that a pardon has to be publicly accepted and that it cannot be forced on someone.

The commonsense idea that you can't force a pardon on someone is the wellspring from which the idea that a pardon has to be accepted flows. Burdick, the case that the 'no involuntary pardons' rule came out was a case where the pardon was not being used as a pardon, but as a tool to try to force a person to testify. This also implicated the 5th Amendment right not to incriminate oneself, and so in dicta that court also speculated that accepting a pardon carried an implicit acceptance of guilt. It's only in the that limited context of misusing a pardon to force someone to testify against one's 5th amendment rights that that bit of woolgathering comes into the broader discussion about pardons.
What gets lost in the myopic "BUT TRUUUUUMP" moaning and blackly ironic twisting of the law is that pardons can and are used in cases of actual innocence, which pretty clearly puts the lie to the fiction that they are findings of guilt. (implicit or otherwise)

joat mon fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Aug 22, 2018

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

yronic heroism posted:

also p hosed up that Republicans buy the theory that POTUS can’t be indicted.

Scalia voice: “Show me in the constitution where Mueller can’t charge a sitting president with obstruction. Which article or amendment is that?” (drops mike)

Scalia voice: Hold my beer

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with Alan Dershowitz?

https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1032243766877474816?s=21

Suspicion of prosecutors, particularly special prosecutors. (But sometimes they're necessary, particularly when Congress won't/can't do that job)

Disgust that liberals are abandoning their principles because BUT TRUUUMP. (Even if the conservatives who've already abandoned their (stated) principles are running roughshod over what used to be those (shared) principles

A huge boner for a dictatorial unitary executive. (Maybe related to 9/11 breaking his brain?)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Pictures are just data. Process what you need and leave the rest.
Cross examining child victims of sex crimes isn't fun.
Having client B tell you that several years previously he set up client A on a child sex case (and who got 25 years) and not being able to do anything about it isn't fun.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Yep.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Hot Dog Day #91 posted:

I'm surprised the term magic bullet lawyer wasn't in widespread use.

I'll accept that it's true in criminal law.

Except when the defense finds one, all the DA has to do is call "I am rubber, you are glue, the bounces of me and sticks on you" and you lose.
For the state, the bullets aren't so much magic as much as you're the only one allowed to use them.

**May not be applicable in CT, where the DAs are fair and strong and wise and the rule of law is a friend and mentor.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Vox Nihili posted:

Everyone here just drinks whiskey, as God intended.

I'm not old enough to have had the necessary number of years to choke down enough to get acclimated to the foulness.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

ActusRhesus posted:

Look. I can snicker and cringe at bioware’s incredibly awkward sex scenes. But actually VR banging one? That is a bridge I simply cannot cross. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t kink shame. But...

Wait. Yes I do. That’s hosed up.

ActusRhesus posted:

beat sabres on hard mode life goal achieved.
The Lady

ActusRhesus posted:

beat sabres on hard mode life goal achieved.
dost protest

ActusRhesus posted:

beat sabres on hard mode life goal achieved.
too much

ActusRhesus posted:

beat sabres on hard mode life goal achieved.
methinks.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
I was subpoenaed two weeks ago to testify against my client.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
I am the old. My youngest child is 24.

Also, spiders are cool.





This brown recluse reminds me of young Phil's old AV.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

EwokEntourage posted:

That’s pretty cool. There’s no reason you should need a bachelors before going to law school in America other than schools wanting more money

So you finished highschool at 14/15? How old were you when you started and how many years is that? Finishing high school at 15 in America is some of that “genius level child that has been deprived of a social life” poo poo

HDD finished undergraduate at 15 and hopes there's still a Congress to be elected to when he becomes eligible in 2024.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Soothing Vapors posted:

please trigger warning those photographs grandpa, there might be arachnophobics itt

You're going to make this cute little baby cry with your mean words

Can't you see the tears welling up in his eyes?

I guess if we can't have pictures of spiders I'm still set up to take pictures of arachnophobes' genitalia.

Mr. Nice! posted:

There used to be an O5 JAG goon back in the 2010 timeframe. He'd be one of the oldest lawgoons if he still posted. Maybe he does and I just can't remember the username.

Defleshed.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Nice piece of fish posted:

Finally, a good day in court :unsmith:


They put him on trial for two counts of violence against a servant of the state and a whole loving slew of minor charges, looking at a six year max.

Acquitted. For the serious charges, anyway. No prison time.

I finally did my job for once. It is I, I am the dirtbag criminal lawyer in the OP.

Congratulations!

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

ActusRhesus posted:

If he had no priors and wasn’t in the “we know you’re a shooter and just can’t prove it to a jury” camp, our jurisdiction would have given him a diversionary program. Stay out of trouble and it all goes away.

Last month I blind pled a guy like that. He got 10 years in prison.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

How about using defendant fees to fund a lobbyist for the DAs?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

terrorist ambulance posted:

Is there actual statutory presumptions re intent to traffick from just amounts of controlled substance possessed

Oklahoma's trafficking provisions are based on weight alone. Intent or lack of intent to traffic/sell/distribute isn't relevant.
Also, crack cocaine trafficking is 5 grams, powder cocaine trafficking is 28 grams

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

That's Dr. Sagan to you, youngster.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Let’s talk about the death penalty. I think under very strict circumstances, certain offenders can morally be executed by the state.

In the philosophical abstract, yes. As a practical/reality matter, absolutely not.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Also if my goat is stolen, and I later find it at someone’s house and that person can’t produce a witness to say they bought the goat from a merchant, then they should be put to death.

Just replace the goat with a goat buck in rut, and let the goat do the killing. Bonus: the corpses will stink forever.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Discendo Vox posted:

thankee, thankee.

Any consideration of death penalty policy should bear in mind that current death penalty methods are inhumane in part because of efforts by anti-death penalty advocates to make other methods impossible. This is a direct parallel (I mean really direct, down to threatening airlines) to animal rights groups poo poo.

I'd like to see some examples, but presented in the same form as Dorothy Parker's Resume.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

yronic heroism posted:

A quick check of the weed thread shows they have an obsession with the ideal amounts of product burn-off, doseage, and customer satisfaction, so no.

That sounds right up D-Vox's alley.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Vox Nihili posted:

Don't own one. :smug:

You should look into it. Most .1 percenters find them invaluable.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

He basically threatened the entire country with the full force of his wrath once he's seated, ESPECIALLY DEMOCRATS, for decades to come

Sounds like he read 2018 pretty well.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
I think you're doubly OK because it was your own client you sought to protect.
You believed your client in good faith and acted to protect him. You're good.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Roger_Mudd posted:

I'm not even sure of the point of oral argument unless Roberts becomes a swing vote.

"Nah, I rest on my brief my dudes"
What!??
Now that spades have been broken on making faces, throwing tantrums, uttering threats and lying your rear end off, oral argument would be a freaking blast.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Pook Good Mook posted:

It's not about actually getting him to recuse himself. It's so Democrats are constantly reminded why you show up on election day.

Can we also talk about how Kavanaugh appears to either be dumb as hell or think we all are? His op-ed that says he was "emotional" in a loving prepared statement?


Checks out. Boofing is to flatulence as his tantrum is to emotional.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Whitlam posted:

What's the most creative defence or grounds for appeal you've ever heard?

Bestiality porn can't be obscene because it's so disgusting it can't appeal to a prurient interest.

Look Sir Droids posted:

�He just needed killing.�

Somebody's not in Oklahoma (or parts of Texas)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Abugadu posted:

We had a guy on domestic violence diversion program, which included a provision for 'no drinking alcohol', appear on a local commercial in which he's at a bar drinking a beer and saying how it tastes better than the competitor's beer.

Probation office dings him, he comes in and tells the judge that it was fake beer. She says 'oh so you're lying to the public about how much better X beer tastes?'

and then gives him a slap on the wrist.

We had a guy on probation for drug possession who appeared on a local news "man on the street" segment about a voter initiative that was going to make (among other things) drug possession a misdemeanor rather than a felony. He was in favor of the initiative, then added that marijuana should be legalized, and then went on to say that in fact, he had smoked marijuana that very day.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Adar posted:

The UK is currently busy shedding unnecessary jobs, economic growth and all remaining spare parts of itself because a bunch of idiots called a vote to score political points knowing that the vote would lose, then stampeded to campaign for the losing side. When that side accidentally won, the majority of the idiots decided to roll with it and continue to campaign on who can sabotage the economy harder. The opposition party would be extremely well placed to capitalize on this, but

So you're saying it's pretty much exactly as if we had stayed.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

TheMadMilkman posted:

The Ewoks are dumb. The idea of a technologically inferior group beating he stormtroopers is fine, but the Ewoks are too inferior for it to be believable.

The original celebration scene was better, though, despite what nerds say. Even with the emporer dead the power structure of the empire wouldn’t collapse instantaneously. Therefore a local celebration would be the appropriate thing to show. Coruscant wouldn’t be celebrating. It would be ground zero for an immediate power struggle.

Also, Luke standing half in light and half in shadow while Vader figures out who Leia is, with the resultant beat down by Luke, is among my favorite movie scenes ever.

Ewoks are the JarJars of the original trilogy. As with the evil JarJar fantasy, I'd love to see evil Ewoks wrecking both the empire and the rebellion. They could have done a tie-in with Gremlins!

And yes, the special editions are all abominations.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

sullat posted:

The Ewok thing is straight pulled from an Ursula LeGuin story, IIRC.

Avatar too (not the characters, but the story)

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

blarzgh posted:

Ah yes, the ol "If I destroy everything you care about, you will NOT want to kill me and will instead want to BE MY FRIEND."

The sickest neg.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

disjoe posted:

I’m drowning in bank internal compliance checklists (Yuns probably did those a decade ago or whatever) and I’m like two weeks behind on my time. Not like I post here very often anyway.

I was going to claim week one of a two week murder trial as the most sucktastic reason not to post, but you win.

Nicely done, Mr. Nice!

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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Pook Good Mook posted:

First loss in a domestic abuse trial. Feels bad man.

Another loss in a murder trial. Still feels bad.
At least the jury didn't ask why they couldn't give the death penalty.

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