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Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Mantis42 posted:

Can you post direct download links? I don't like how Soundcloud forces mevto stream and use data when I like to listen to podcasts at the park.

from what I understand we're gonna be DMCA'd right quick as we run afoul of licensing that we have absolutely no way, or inclination, to pay for if they're distributed in directly downloadable format

however pocketcasts and iTunes (depending on your device) let you download it into teh actual application as far as I can tell no im not figuring out why that's any different but so far so good

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Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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but GunPoop you might ask, how come you are rippin off Phil Ochs he deserves to collect a fair u blah blah :words: ahahaha

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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Gunshow Poophole posted:

but GunPoop you might ask, how come you are rippin off Phil Ochs he deserves to collect a fair u blah blah :words: ahahaha

i'm also pretty sure he died childless

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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the point about everyone just wanting to hang around the president while he preps for a press conference really made me remember just how much of this loving show is about writing speeches. which then made me realize that liberals have fetishized speech making

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the point about everyone just wanting to hang around the president while he preps for a press conference really made me remember just how much of this loving show is about writing speeches. which then made me realize that liberals have fetishized speech making

Santos wins the DNC nomination through the power of an inspiring speech in Season 7 during a deadlocked convention

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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i'm going to die listening to this podcast

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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it flows directly from the point we belabord in an earlier episode about pedantic Logic and Argumentation being the only tool in their toolbox, a Grand Speech is just projecting your invocation of FALLACIES, SIR, I OBJECT onto a captive audience

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i'm also pretty sure he died childless

Naw he had a daughter. I remember seeing her on a PBS documentary about his sad life.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the point about everyone just wanting to hang around the president while he preps for a press conference really made me remember just how much of this loving show is about writing speeches. which then made me realize that liberals have fetishized speech making

The question is whether this is the result of, or cause of, Obama

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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Jewel Repetition posted:

The question is whether this is the result of, or cause of, Obama

well this show was before obama was even known in IL soooooooooooo

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Raskolnikov38 posted:

i'm going to die listening to this podcast



mods?
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Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Jewel Repetition posted:

The question is whether this is the result of, or cause of, Obama

so in addition to raskolnikov point, sorkin quit at almost precisely the time that BHO rose to national prominence with the DNC speech he gave

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Gunshow Poophole posted:

from what I understand we're gonna be DMCA'd right quick as we run afoul of licensing that we have absolutely no way, or inclination, to pay for if they're distributed in directly downloadable format

Isn’t commentary/review a fairly standard fair use case?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

suck my woke dick posted:

Isn’t commentary/review a fairly standard fair use case?

He's paranoid about being copyright claimed for a podcast that like 50 C-SPAM regulars listen to.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I love how they talk about Andrew loving genocide Jackson as a dude to emulate.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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In tyool 2018 it doesn't matter how many people download it, soundcloud does pre screens for things that they host and so much as a fart of a copyrighted work will trip their algorithm and I don't wanna test it gently caress you it'd be so boring without my clever music clips!

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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MonsieurChoc posted:

I love how they talk about Andrew loving genocide Jackson as a dude to emulate.

We also didn't bother to mention that it's an apocryphal story based on the party he threw in the white house when he was leaving forever

Also the cheese was a spiteful one up of a gift given to Jefferson who Jackson HATED

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Gunshow Poophole posted:

We also didn't bother to mention that it's an apocryphal story based on the party he threw in the white house when he was leaving forever

Also the cheese was a spiteful one up of a gift given to Jefferson who Jackson HATED

I listened to that Dollop episode.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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My wife is a walking Dollop podcast so yeah lol

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

WampaLord posted:

Santos wins the DNC nomination through the power of an inspiring speech in Season 7 during a deadlocked convention

they did pull this entire storyline from barack obama becoming a huge national celebrity after the 2004 dnc keynote

e: beaten. the parallels between vinick/santos and obama/mccain did give the show way more credibility than it deserved after ending

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Gunshow Poophole posted:

In tyool 2018 it doesn't matter how many people download it, soundcloud does pre screens for things that they host and so much as a fart of a copyrighted work will trip their algorithm and I don't wanna test it gently caress you it'd be so boring without my clever music clips!

Oh it doesn't matter, I found a site the automatically rips SoundCloud links anyways, but just clarify I meant providing a link to a different host to download from, not enabling Soundcloud's thing.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Mantis42 posted:

Oh it doesn't matter, I found a site the automatically rips SoundCloud links anyways, but just clarify I meant providing a link to a different host to download from, not enabling Soundcloud's thing.

cool, thanks for putting in the effort just to listen to us yabber

got some big plans for an episode on the... medium horizon so we're continuing to work through the formatting of the show

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Your show keeps trying to convince me that I'm a budding musical genius.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Lipstick Apathy
regarding the "why are the Democrats the moral guardians of media in this episode?", isn't it because at the time, that was actually topical? That the US had Tipper Gore and the FCC under Clinton trying to censor "indecent" material and whatnot?

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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gradenko_2000 posted:

regarding the "why are the Democrats the moral guardians of media in this episode?", isn't it because at the time, that was actually topical? That the US had Tipper Gore and the FCC under Clinton trying to censor "indecent" material and whatnot?

indeed it was. the tarantino and video game and flynt argument have been consistently topical for the entirety of the culture wars, once it became gauche to use the n-word in pubcli

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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boys boys all type of boys
white white rapey racist Georgetown boys

Here comes the patriarchy *horns.aiff*

speaking of censors apparentl yit was kosher to just straight up say not even the abridged version of the gay slur F-word on NBC

also PLEASE ENJOY the corridos you can hear (with outstanding bass capture this Yeti mic is a thing of beauty) wending their way sonorosuly through the latter half of my portions of the recorindg IT'S THE WFREAKIN WEEKEND BABY

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I just listened to episodes 0-5 on a car trip and I really like the podcast! It's very calming when you aren't yelling.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

yellowcar posted:

The fact that you guys mentioned that libs are such loving boy scouts and never dream beyond winning an election reminded me of this loving tweet:

https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/897586342930108416


Although, just like on our timeline, the bipartisan infrastructure bill is for The Wall and child concentration camps

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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projecthalaxy posted:

I just listened to episodes 0-5 on a car trip and I really like the podcast! It's very calming when you aren't yelling.

thanks so much for listening and for posting it is nice to share thoughts with people

I get louder as I drink more, some things just can't be artiuclated calmly

Fleetwood posted:

Although, just like on our timeline, the bipartisan infrastructure bill is for The Wall and child concentration camps

*hillarishly* I may not be, Pink Floyd, but The Wall could be one of my greatest hits

also sup dude hope your famil yis doin well :)

Pathos
Sep 8, 2000

not to be THAT GUY but as someone who has steadfastly refused to ever watch the West Wing will this be even remotely understandable? I don’t know how much context you guys give but I’m down to listen to some CSPAM nerds talk about lovely centrist shows that have lead us to our current decorum hell, but I’m just not sure if I’d be missing too much of the overall context.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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you're probably going to want to watch an episode or 2 just so you can put faces to names. otherwise i think the summaries provided in the pod are pretty good

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Raskolnikov38 posted:

you're probably going to want to watch an episode or 2 just so you can put faces to names. otherwise i think the summaries provided in the pod are pretty good

thanks! Pathos: we do try to sum up what happens as we (typically) structure our thoughts in the podcast linearly in time with the show. If not, we do a quick plot runthrough and then break out the issues to talk about.

Particularly if you listen to ep0 and get the low-down on characters otu the gate. which im realizing me and Dave might want to do a betteer job of revisiting / clarifying. even to the point of just saying "communications director Toby Ziegler" to freshen people up

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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tbh their job titles are all pretty meaningless other than leo and jed and maybe the NSA adviser whenever they're in an episode. everyone else's job is some form of speech writing

e: except josh who is like a mini-leo job-wise

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


I haven't watched the show in years and your summaries are enough to remind me exactly of each episode and occasionally let me know I'm merging bits in my head (i had combined (Ep 6 spoilers the Zoey/Charlie/randos scene in this episode with the "Charlie and Sam are involved in a bar brawl" scene from the California season.

Another great episode.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Raskolnikov38 posted:

tbh their job titles are all pretty meaningless other than leo and jed and maybe the NSA adviser whenever they're in an episode. everyone else's job is some form of speech writing

e: except josh who is like a mini-leo job-wise

i think there's enough od a correlation betwene their job titles and the issues that occasionally arise: although three of the main cast are basically Speechwriters... that's literally half of the primary characters you just mentioned.

On the other hand, at present everyone has a pretty fluid role in terms of what exactly they're doing when they appear on camera, CJ's gig as press secretary is the outlier where she's routinely delivering breifings, so you're right.

considering how long ive been familiar with the show I might be overcompensating but i'd like to at least give noobs a shot

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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i've watched the show twice and i still have no clue what sam's actual job title is

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

i've watched the show twice and i still have no clue what sam's actual job title is

He is Deputy Director of Communications, under Toby who is just straight up the Director of Communications.

In practice, him and Toby combine to be the main speechwriter for POTUS, though oftentimes it seems like Sam is the one actually doing the bulk of the speechwriting and Toby just goes around from meeting to meeting to get everyone to stay on message or to make convincing arguments to try to change votes.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Concentrate Derelicte

Do not be distracted by the beautiful celebrities

Do what you've been trained to do

AND CONDESCEND TO THE PRESIDENT OF INDONESIA

are you not aware that I get farty and bloated with a foamy latte?? please do not pollute this thread with the bastachat that is festering troughout the rest of the SPAM even if it's almost directly topical this week

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007
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to answer your question, yes the supply ship jed talks to is the one he yells at god for sinking despite it being his fault for apparently not understanding how a harbor works

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Raskolnikov38 posted:

to answer your question, yes the supply ship jed talks to is the one he yells at god for sinking despite it being his fault for apparently not understanding how a harbor works

Thank you! I knew I was right.

God, why does my brain remember these things so well?

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