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I said come in! posted:Happy 25th birthday Everquest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egErjaxXK-c
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I remember someone telling me that the music in EQ was bad so I turned it off before ever playing it. 
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Mar 17, 2024 12:39
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The EverQuest official YouTube posted a 25th anniversary video and used some generic music instead of the iconic theme who's running the show over there. I think the only older (and superior) model they show in the entire thing is Cazic-Thule at the beginning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQqeXSdOKf8 edit: it's nuts how much uglier the game got when they tried to modernize the graphics Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Mar 17, 2024 |
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Mar 17, 2024 14:48
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drat Dirty Ape posted:I remember someone telling me that the music in EQ was bad so I turned it off before ever playing it. that person is a monster
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Mar 17, 2024 17:08
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's nuts how much uglier the game got when they tried to modernize the graphics they put them out at that weird point in video game CGI's history between "chunky set of boxes that represents what a human ought to look like" and "authentically human-looking model," so they've got incredibly strong uncanny valley energy. i believe shadows of luclin was also before inverse kinematics became a widespread industry standard, so you've got the top shelf combination of plasticine people with stiff action figure animations
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Mar 17, 2024 17:22
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Eimi posted:AFAIK FFXI back in the day had a max of about 4-5k people per server. I don't remember seeing more than 2k online on a server at once, but these are 20 years old memories so... But you absolutely can make an mmo server feel packed and lively with that many people if you design the game properly. Hell I don't know how you do an old school more field based mmo and make it work with more than that.
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Mar 17, 2024 17:37
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I said come in! posted:that person is a monster It wasn't until years later playing EQ2 I was like 'hey some of these themes are catchy' and somebody was like 'yeah it's just remixes of the EQ themes'. Truth is I turned them off the day I first installed it and forgot they were even a thing.
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Mar 17, 2024 21:03
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I was looking at what Everquest 1 & 2 currently offers for expansions, and they are too expensive, and come across to me as very pay to win at first glance. But the people still left playing are probably all shelling out for the most expensive editions.
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Mar 17, 2024 21:33
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Yep I got a friend that wants to go to their rebranded sony convention where you meet the devs and lol https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fippy-fest-2024-tickets-846467957447 https://www.darkpawgames.com/fippy-fest#eq2 It is only pay piggies left
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Mar 17, 2024 22:28
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Also eq2 keeps doing progression servers which is cool but then they do pvp servers and add in an exclusive preorder mount with stats that if you don't have, you are basically fodder for the first 30 or 40 levels
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Mar 17, 2024 22:30
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I wish I could find more of these pics from EQ conventions back in the day.  
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Mar 18, 2024 00:18
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Riot MMO Reset https://twitter.com/MarcMerrill/status/1770479141600874553
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Mar 20, 2024 19:45
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They really are making a mmo in the year post 2015 or whatever. Now all they need to do is let you donate big wads of cash for ingame poo poo that is never going to exist.
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Mar 20, 2024 19:55
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It really didn't look like we were going to see anything for several years yet anyway. Quite funny that it's ignited a bunch of debate on the social medias cause a bunch of people are saying that wow with a riot coat of paint is exactly what they DID want actually.
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Mar 20, 2024 19:57
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quote:The initial vision just wasn’t different enough from what you can play today. Your cash cow is casualized Dota of course they want that. Why would you poach a top WoW guy if you didn't want your own WoW.
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Mar 20, 2024 19:59
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Groovelord Neato posted:Your cash cow is casualized Dota of course they want that. Why would you poach a top WoW guy if you didn't want your own WoW. Not just LoL, but Valorant, TFT, and Legends of Runeterra are all essentially other games with some twists to the formula and extreme levels of polish. What's more, basically all of the successful AAA MMOs of the last twenty years have all been "WoW, but with <setting> coat of paint." What an incredible misread of the market.
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Mar 20, 2024 20:24
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I'm glad they fired the wow guy for making wow. Now I can finally see what an MMO from the creators of Star Wars: Squadrons and Mass Effect: Andromeda looks like.
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Mar 20, 2024 20:26
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Well I see why ghostcrawler left, let's see how many more years they can throw money down the money hole of making a mmo and redesigning it from scratch because they can't figure out a direction.
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Mar 20, 2024 20:36
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i'd actually bet this is more that their internal alphas and playtests weren't lighting fires under anyone, so they'd rather go back to the drawing board instead of spending several more years trying to build off of a flawed design it's certainly possible they're being moronic and convincing themselves that they can come up with some incredibly new never before seen iteration on the MMO genre, but i think it's likely this is more for investors as a way of softening the blow of having to throw out several years of work to start from scratch
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Mar 20, 2024 20:39
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Vermain posted:i'd actually bet this is more that their internal alphas and playtests weren't lighting fires under anyone, so they'd rather go back to the drawing board instead of spending several more years trying to build off of a flawed design idk, this reminds of that one poster in the LoL thread talking about how Riot kept pushing back LoR over and over again because it wasn't ~*up to their standards*~. The end result of which is Hearthstone beat them to market and LoR has never been profitable. Game development is hard and MMO development even more so. But it really seems like there's a perfectionist streak somewhere in Riot's process that does more harm than good.
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Mar 20, 2024 20:51
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Which it ridiculous because their most successful game was like, fine at launch. It was all right.
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Mar 20, 2024 20:56
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We were never going to see any information about that game this decade but it is nice of them to confirm.
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Mar 20, 2024 21:07
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Reminded me of that too, a world where runeterra took the hearthstone market before it came out and all the hearthstone players were too deep into sunkcost to consider anything else and blizzard would of had to make their virtual cards less profitable or get compared unfavorably to runeterra's generous model.
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Mar 20, 2024 21:09
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This new person they have leading the MMO, his only experience is working on the least popular Bioware games that are attributed to being Biowares downfall. So yeah.
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Mar 20, 2024 21:30
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I said come in! posted:This new person they have leading the MMO, his only experience is working on the least popular Bioware games that are attributed to being Biowares downfall. So yeah. anthem mmo confirmed
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Mar 20, 2024 21:37
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Vermain posted:i'd actually bet this is more that their internal alphas and playtests weren't lighting fires under anyone, so they'd rather go back to the drawing board instead of spending several more years trying to build off of a flawed design Just copy everything from Age of Wushu and slap a LoL coat of paint over it. There, what was so hard about it, jeez.
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Mar 20, 2024 21:59
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man this game isnt going to be made
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Mar 20, 2024 22:04
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Personally i just wanted Puzzle Pirates but i got to be Teemo.
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Mar 20, 2024 22:04
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All I wanted was World of Warcraft with Runeterra coat of paint, and Riots experience for live service and world building.
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Mar 20, 2024 22:23
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Riot's world building spills into the MMO scene with the same tenacity that it spills into League of Legends - both taxed to contain it
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Mar 20, 2024 22:29
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It’s so bizarre to hear people praise riot games’ worldbuilding. There has to be something wrong with you to think that.
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Mar 20, 2024 23:57
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an iksar marauder posted:It’s so bizarre to hear people praise riot games’ worldbuilding. There has to be something wrong with you to think that. It was fun when it was goofy and got stupid when they wanted to make it cohesive and serious. rip chucat
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Mar 21, 2024 00:04
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I always thought their worldbuilding was just throwing every trope at the wall and seeing what sticks and once all the bases were covered just expanding from there?
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Mar 21, 2024 00:23
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The Netflix show came out and suddenly tons of people all needed to pretend to be insanely invested in The Deep Lore.
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Mar 21, 2024 00:30
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I always thought their worldbuilding was just throwing every trope at the wall and seeing what sticks and once all the bases were covered just expanding from there? Basically, yeah. The first few years after release, they were whipping out new champions so fast there wasn't time to put any thought into a coherent setting. Its was just Knight Man, Evil Knight Man, Evil Knight Ghost, Ninja, Ronin, Sexy Pirate Lady, etc. with the barest threads of a world around them. It wasn't till 2014 that they slowed down and started trying to build the IP out.
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1stGear posted:Basically, yeah. The first few years after release, they were whipping out new champions so fast there wasn't time to put any thought into a coherent setting. Its was just Knight Man, Evil Knight Man, Evil Knight Ghost, Ninja, Ronin, Sexy Pirate Lady, etc. with the barest threads of a world around them. the early champions were "guy from dota", "other guy from dota", "a character that appears in the warcraft 3 custom map entitled 'dota'"
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Can't wait for the release in 2034 and the "what went wrong?" retrospective videos in 2035.
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Mar 21, 2024 02:43
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The mmorpg curse continues.
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I did like the Netflix show and would be down for some magitech mmo shenanigans but this is like one step above pantheon on the “likely to actually launch” scale from what I’ve seen
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Predicting people will trash talk brighter shores all year but it will be the only new MMO to come out in 2024 and everyone with MMO brain will play it for two months anyways lmao
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