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Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

H.P. Hovercraft posted:


that kinda thing’s been their MO for awhile (even notes that one specifically at the top of the article)


Wow that article had some really damning example of that time during the Cold War when they *checks notes* accurately reported on American racial strife and it made America look bad to all the not white countries of the world. Curse the perfidious Slavs.

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Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

No I get it, the USSR once spread a rumour about AIDs therefore every dumb thing Americans believe is probably Russian disinformatzya.

The 'nuclear winter' hypothesis was advanced by western scientists who legitimately feared (with very good reason based on what we know about the Russian response to Able Archer) that the 'New Cold War' initiated by the Reagan administration would trigger a nuclear confrontation. They wanted to clearly establish a nuclear was wasn't 'winnable'. They relied on modelling which subsequent scientists have questioned the accuracy of. Seeing the anti-nuclear movement and the scientists behind it as Russian propaganda and then tying it into some lovely article in the Atlantic about the perfidious Russian tendency to publicize Jim Crow era legislation is the kind of poo poo that belongs in one of those terrible D&D megathreads.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Willie Tomg posted:

i don't think there's anything natural in that sexual analysis at all, except that its insanely naturally predictable that a guy who spent his career in lightless underground bunkers around other dudes would think its natural that women suddenly being the most important people on earth in an existential sense would be naturally dominated, overlooking the documented cultural reasons that was not the case in cultures touched by abrahamic religions where the primary artificial means of population control where plague and famine failed to do the job was bitter disputes over whether God was a faceted entity or a singular one.

i guess my point is: there's nothing "natural" about patriarchy. it crops up in places for reasons.

Yeah but it's still got nothing on this claim:

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In this situation the US has a terrific advantage over the rest of the world. Its called the Second Amendment. The B-country population is largely armed, sometimes quite heavily. They do exactly what Founding Fathers envisaged - provide a body of armed people whom the local authority can assemble to maintain order. (The Supreme Court may argue that interpretation of the Second Amendment but by now they are doing so with the people who wrote it). In a more general sense, post-holocaust fiction usually has gangs of outlaws preying on the defenseless citizenry. Interestingly that doesn't seem to happen. In disasters people tend to work together rather than against eachother (for example in US urban disasters Hells Angels biker gangs have made sterling contributions to relief efforts using their bikes and riding skills to get emergency supplies through to places others can't). While lawlessness and disorder do occur, the ease of forming a civilian militia (using the term properly here meaning something very much like the Sheriff?s Posse beloved of Westerns) brings that situation under control. Other countries are unlikely to be so fortunate.

For anyone wondering how this works out in practice I think Hurricane Katrina provides a nice proof of concept for how stabilizing it was in a disaster when a bunch of upset and highly armed white people formed a "militia" during a major disaster.

That having been said it is a good read and its cool to hear someone actually discussing some of the strategic considerations that go into where the bombs get detonated and what gets targeted.

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