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RCarr posted:9 months for less than an eight of pot. Jesus. What country was this in? You can get up to one year in jail for possession of marijuana <20g in Florida. 21 grams can get you up to five years in prison.
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Jul 7, 2019 03:16
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Lord Banana posted:Really cool thread. Wow that is total bullshit to have to face over a year for literally nothing. Sympathies to you my friend. denzelcurrypower fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Jul 8, 2019 |
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Jul 7, 2019 12:56
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RCarr posted:9 months for less than an eight of pot. Jesus. What country was this in? England. 6 months in prison, 9 months on tag. And technically I did that time innocent while waiting for trial. Fun times. Edit: My punishment in the end was a caution. Utter bastards. Ornithology posted:I gotta say that sounds completely bullshit (not in the sense of lies but the story sucks all around). What a terrible situation that you were in for doing nothing at all. It could have been worse, it was mostly just boring. The wing we were on had a lot of druggies, and I had a science degree and could chat about drugs (another thing they tried to hold against me, having chemistry textbooks). So I spent most my time chatting to people about how to do drugs safer. I got a job in the education block working on the radio course, so I got to gently caress about with music making programs and in their recording studio. There was a riot while I was in there which was nerve wracking, but I was locked in my cell while it happened. A guy was banging on his cell door all night, and a bunch of people refused to go back to their cells until he was moved. Since there are only 3 guards and a block of like 200 people they just immediately hosed off and called in the riot squad. At least 100 guys and dogs came for less than 10 people, stormed the wing and put them in seg. I heard they all got off with extra charges though because they had a legitimate issue. That was a big takeaway from prison too, nothing gets done if you don't kick up a fuss and start breaking rules. A favourite for people not getting their meds was to get on the netting between floors (so you cant jump or drop poo poo) and refuse to come off until they got your meds. The guards couldn't get on the net because of health and safety so they pretty much had to give in. Feels like its not really helping people get back into society to teach them to start breaking rules to get their way.
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Jul 7, 2019 18:23
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The problem is if possession/drug dealing/production etc. becomes (more) legal than what about all these guys [in prisons]who would otherwise walk free ? That's half of America's potential workforce right there
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Ornithology posted:I gotta say that sounds completely bullshit (not in the sense of lies but the story sucks all around). What a terrible situation that you were in for doing nothing at all. I appreciate you had a terrible time in the youth criminal justice system but holy gently caress, you aren't gonna get a lot of sympathy if you keep talking about your charges as a joke and that you didn't really commit a serious crime. You shared revenge porn of a teenager and you think thats just cyber bulling? what. Reaction sounds pretty appropriate. vincentpricesboner fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Jul 7, 2019 19:26
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Sjs00 posted:The problem is if possession/drug dealing/production etc. becomes (more) legal than what about all these guys [in prisons]who would otherwise walk free ? That's half of America's potential workforce right there Good point man, there's a ridiculous amount of people in prison and that would have a massive effect on everyday life if the ridiculous laws were changed and people got pardoned. Not gonna happen though. denzelcurrypower fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jul 8, 2019 |
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Jul 8, 2019 04:05
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denzelcurrypower posted:Good point man, there's a ridiculous amount of people in prison and that would have a massive effect on everyday life if the ridiculous laws were changed and people got pardoned. Not gonna happen though. Did you just change your username and edit your post because you admitted to sending out revenge porn of a teenager? Holy gently caress man. Just ban yourself.
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Sjs00 posted:The problem is if possession/drug dealing/production etc. becomes (more) legal than what about all these guys [in prisons]who would otherwise walk free ? That's half of America's potential workforce right there How is this a problem? Because we'd lose a lot of our slave labor in prisons, we shouldn't stop our insane war on drugs? Are you the avatar of the privatized prison lobby or something?
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empty whippet box posted:How is this a problem? Because we'd lose a lot of our slave labor in prisons, we shouldn't stop our insane war on drugs? Are you the avatar of the privatized prison lobby or something? I think (hope) it was a joke.
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What I'm saying is that neither the war on drugs or the other associated degrees of petty crime that people are serving time for will ever get addressed, ever those fat black engorged unsucked deprived massive amounts of curiosity maybe one of them is for me lol 😂
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Jul 20, 2019 12:38
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Lord Banana posted:
I'm a screw at a UK prison, so I can help with questions from the other side of the bars (within reason of course)
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Gaz2k21 posted:I'm a screw at a UK prison, so I can help with questions from the other side of the bars (within reason of course) Why do you do such an underpaid and thankless job? I got on with a few of the screws, the ones who clearly thought the job was about helping people, and I felt so sorry for them.They just didn't have the resources to actually do anything.
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Lord Banana posted:Why do you do such an underpaid and thankless job? I got on with a few of the screws, the ones who clearly thought the job was about helping people, and I felt so sorry for them.They just didn't have the resources to actually do anything. I lack any form of qualification for anything else, and live in an area where the wage is actually decent and there are very few other options unless you really like care work, plus the establishment I work in is generally incredibly understaffed so with overtime I can usually almost double my monthly wage. I do consider it a stop gap job though I doubt I'll do it long term
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Gaz2k21 posted:I lack any form of qualification for anything else, and live in an area where the wage is actually decent and there are very few other options unless you really like care work, plus the establishment I work in is generally incredibly understaffed so with overtime I can usually almost double my monthly wage. Lack of opportunities I get, but I've always wondered how people justify working as a direct part of the system that has injustice like Lord Banana went through. The drug war has made so many of us enemies when we might have been friends it's beyond hosed up.
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Fragmented posted:Lack of opportunities I get, but I've always wondered how people justify working as a direct part of the system that has injustice like Lord Banana went through. It’s pretty simple, there most certainly are cases of injustice but there’s also a lot of horrible people out there probably more than most realise, and whilst I personally can’t justify lengthy prison sentences for victimless crimes like cannabis possession etc I can definitely justify punishment for crimes like theft/assault/fraud/murder/rape/pedophilia obviously each case has its own circumstances and my personal opinion on whether punishment is justified may change based on those opinions.
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Fragmented posted:Lack of opportunities I get, but I've always wondered how people justify working as a direct part of the system that has injustice like Lord Banana went through. For every couple of kids that got caught with a little weed in their pockets (I live in Canada where even before legalization, the system was always hesitant to throw the book at them) there are just as many legit dangerous murderers and rapists that very much need to be locked-up because they won't stop.
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Justin Godscock posted:For every couple of kids that got caught with a little weed in their pockets (I live in Canada where even before legalization, the system was always hesitant to throw the book at them) there are just as many legit dangerous murderers and rapists that very much need to be locked-up because they won't stop. it is not a 1:1 ratio
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Justin Godscock posted:For every couple of kids that got caught with a little weed in their pockets (I live in Canada where even before legalization, the system was always hesitant to throw the book at them) there are just as many legit dangerous murderers and rapists that very much need to be locked-up because they won't stop. There’s definitely, in no way, “just as many”.
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I agree. In my time in I have only met a few legit “these people should never be on the street” kind of people (excluding chomos, all of them were unrepentant creeps who were ‘framed’ or ‘misunderstood’) The vast majority of people inside were like me, yeah they hosed up and/or have problems, but they are not beyond turning it around. In my travels, I would say 9 out of 10 murderers were domestic issues, many of them first time offenses. I live in a very rural area too, so this likely effects the perspective.
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Dr.Caligari posted:
Perhaps I'm parsing this wrong but if most of the murderers you met in prison were in there for killing just one wife, that seems...reasonable.
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They might have killed their parents
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Oh word they only killed 1 wife? Sounds like society's really slowing to a crawl without that gem back in the wild.
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Killing a family member shouldn't count, we all make mistakes!
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CleverHans posted:Perhaps I'm parsing this wrong but if most of the murderers you met in prison were in there for killing just one wife, that seems...reasonable. I assume he meant clean record then a murder, as opposed to a life of crime with murder as the capstone.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I assume he meant clean record then a murder, as opposed to a life of crime with murder as the capstone. Reminds me of a quote from a Law and Order episode where they prosecute someone who killed someone as their first offense and they put him away and the DAs are reflecting on the case. "I'm not sure how I feel, he didn't fit the profile of a murderer." "Sure he did, he killed someone."
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Gaz2k21 posted:I lack any form of qualification for anything else, and live in an area where the wage is actually decent and there are very few other options unless you really like care work, plus the establishment I work in is generally incredibly understaffed so with overtime I can usually almost double my monthly wage. For reference here in the southern US my local prison is advertising desperately for new hires. They would probably be more successful if they cut the media buy and offered more than $22k USD/yr
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shame on an IGA posted:For reference here in the southern US my local prison is advertising desperately for new hires. Jesus christmas. I think thats like  an hour or so. Thats not even minimum wage where I am....
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Welcome to the Southern US I ate dry oatmeal and raisins and the tall ceiling fan is on in the living room right now It's night time 10/hr to work as a prison guard sounds like a goddamn deal to me
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wesleywillis posted:Jesus christmas. I think thats like these are generally private prisons who cut costs as much as possible and locate themselves in nowheresville, where land is cheap and there's a ready pool of desperate people to sustain high turnover
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luxury handset posted:these are generally private prisons who cut costs as much as possible and locate themselves in nowheresville, where land is cheap and there's a ready pool of desperate people to sustain high turnover mansfieldohio.txt
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I hear the one down in Lebanon pays pretty well, but I think it's run by the state.
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So, after Jeffrey Epstein's death, I've been wondering, what's your experience with child molesters in prison? Shaun Atwood often says that they got killed or beaten on sight in the prisons he was in.
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Dance Officer posted:So, after Jeffrey Epstein's death, I've been wondering, what's your experience with child molesters in prison? Shaun Atwood often says that they got killed or beaten on sight in the prisons he was in. Yes.
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shame on an IGA posted:For reference here in the southern US my local prison is advertising desperately for new hires. The book American Prison is by a reporter who went undercover at a private Louisiana prison as a guard. Excellent, if depressing, read. He documents how they were paid little and badly understaffed so millions went to the corporation. Highly recommended.
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Dance Officer posted:So, after Jeffrey Epstein's death, I've been wondering, what's your experience with child molesters in prison? Shaun Atwood often says that they got killed or beaten on sight in the prisons he was in. We have a separate wing for sex offenders, it’s one of the easiest wings to work as they generally behave and theirs a lot more elderly/disabled people on the wing, it does have some prisoners on there who have requested to be placed on that wing for their own protection (debts around the jail usually) they can sometimes get a bit rowdy and bully the sex offenders but usually calm it quickly when threatened with being moved off the wing. Other prisoners generally look down on the wing which is obviously understandable, for a while we had a problem with one guy on another wing trying to throw bags of his own poo poo out of his window onto the sex offenders wing, he failed and it all ended up on one of the exercise yards.... Fun fact: Prisoners refer to pedophiles as “bacons” in the UK prison system it’s something I’ve never heard outside of jail.
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Gaz2k21 posted:Fun fact: Prisoners refer to pedophiles as “bacons” in the UK prison system it’s something I’ve never heard outside of jail. (A few other questions if I may - btw, thanks for your insight from the other side of the bars/system.) In the UK are gangs and violence as prevalent as they are in the US and other 3rd world How easy/hard is it to form relationships with the inmates? Like someone alluded to, if you met some prisoners on the outside, you might get along well so I'm curious how you handle that to maintain distance and respect, not get taken advantage of, etc? Aside from pay, is there was anything you could change in terms of your job and the prison system, what would it be?
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sticksy posted:Is there a good/humorous reason they call them bacons that I am too thick to grasp? The only explanation I’ve had so far is it’s a Cockney rhyming slang type situation and comes from the term “Bacon Bonce” (Nonce) I’m not sure if the origins of that term either, theirs some other terminology that I’m yet to learn the origins of like “bird” means time in jail and “burn” means tobacco. There’s definitely gang culture but I’m not sure how it compares to US prison gang culture, generally the gangs keep to themselves though, this is most likely because they are up to stuff they don’t want us to know about. The job is basically all about forming relationships with inmates, obviously it’s a case of keeping it professional, the few times I’ve seen people outside of jail if they speak to me I make a point not to mention jail, if someone comes into jail that I know from my personal life I’ll ensure to inform the security department of the jail, this will usually result in that person being placed on a wing that I don’t work on or transferred to another prison. Honestly the few things I’d change would be I’d pay officers more, I’d also pay inmates that work inside the prison more, prison is supposed to be rehabilitation so showing the value of a decent wage would be part of that, I’d give officers better uniform and PPE, Stab vests/pepper spray and spit hoods for a start.
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Lord Banana posted:At least 100 guys and dogs came for less than 10 people, stormed the wing and put them in seg. I heard they all got off with extra charges though because they had a legitimate issue. Just lol that unions of prisoners while in prison work better than unions of workers. It's absolutely peachy to see that the state will do everything it can to crush them no matter where it is though.
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