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Its definitely not perfect, but I definitely enjoy this show more than 24 or Homeland.Pierson posted:Is it being adapted from the books or are they going of their own storylines? Pretty sure this is all new, unless there was a book where Jack Ryan hunted Bin Laden that I missed. They're trying to adapt it to be more modern than cold war stuff. E: I guess it pulls some ideas from Executive Orders, but Jack isn't where he was in that book so its pretty heavily new stuff. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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So is Matice basically John Clark? Seems to fill that role. Either he's a new character or Matice is an alias he's using for some reason.
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Sep 2, 2018 18:28
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It's really funny that Jack Ryan has an arc where he learns to be comfortable killing a suspect with civilians in the way. That's some Die Hard-rear end poo poo.
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Sep 2, 2018 18:49
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Show is ok, entertaining but not worth rewatching. Seems like they're just milking the Tom Clancy / Jack Ryan name. Not a lot of correlation between the character of Jack Ryan in the books vs this show. Agree with the other comments that the bad guys have more interesting plot than the good guys.Zaphod42 posted:Good show. Wish they bothered to keep track of bullet counts though, magic pistols everywhere that seem to carry 20 bullets or more. They waste them on half-assed shots and never seem to reload or carry extra magazines, and yet they just keep shooting. At 24:30 it shows them hardwiring it to land line. Also a lot of handguns can carry 20 rounds.
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LesterGroans posted:It's really funny that Jack Ryan has an arc where he learns to be comfortable killing a suspect with civilians in the way. That's some Die Hard-rear end poo poo. Really hope they don't turn Ryan into Jack Bauer. mysteryberto posted:At 24:30 it shows them hardwiring it to land line. Ahh, good catch. I thought they were just plugging in power for the fans but you're right. mysteryberto posted:Also a lot of handguns can carry 20 rounds. Typically to get those numbers you need some kind of extended magazine protruding below the gun at least a little bit. But yeah I guess they could all just have 20-round handgun mags. Its not impossible it just seems implausible for service weapons. But then again its pretty reasonable for them to have like 18 rounds so guess that checks out fine. Still seems like they're wasting bullets though. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 2, 2018 |
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Sep 2, 2018 19:29
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I will say I love the look in the last ep that Kathy gives the Secret Service guy as she hits the fire alarm.
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Sep 2, 2018 20:12
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Jack "figuring poo poo out" is almost to the point of parody in this show. I still enjoyed it.
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Sep 2, 2018 23:02
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Hughmoris posted:Some of this dialogue is... weak. Show don't tell.
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Sep 2, 2018 23:03
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This was fun. I kinda wish they got a full 22-23 episode season with maybe 1-2 extra episodes to fit everything in, and maybe if they made events occur in real time too.
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Terrorist guy tells his son that the mother is dead but the next episode he says "we're going to save your mother and sisters..."
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mcmagic posted:Terrorist guy tells his son that the mother is dead but the next episode he says "we're going to save your mother and sisters..." Yeah kind of strange the son was never mad about that.
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Elendil004 posted:Yeah kind of strange the son was never mad about that. Arab sons don't get mad at Arab fathers, especially when the father has a terrorist network and is by and and large a nice guy.
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Man some dumb stuff happened in episode 7.
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mcmagic posted:Terrorist guy tells his son that the mother is dead but the next episode he says "we're going to save your mother and sisters..." He wasn't speaking literally. He said the mom is now living with the Americans and that she's basically dead to their family.
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Mu Zeta posted:He wasn't speaking literally. He said the mom is now living with the Americans and that she's basically dead to their family. Doesn't he tell his son she's dead after he gives the order to have her killed?
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The Bodyguard is 3 epiosdes in and has twice the story telling of Jack Ryan.
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Zaphod42 posted:Doesn't he tell his son she's dead after he gives the order to have her killed? Yep nooneofconsequence posted:Man some dumb stuff happened in episode 7. I hate when major plot developments revolve around children being idiots
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It's sort of tough to have a solid series if the main lead and actor is so forgettable.
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He wasn't, though. John Krasinski is charismatic and fun to watch, and I don't think I would have enjoyed this show so much if it was some no-name actor. It was really the character of Jack Ryan that was written as a little too bland, and I think it's a credit to Krasinski that he was able to bring it off as well as he did. Maybe with a second season they'll have a little more leeway to write him as something other than the perfect milquetoast protagonist.
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Krasinski is the worst element of the show for me, even more than the sloppy writing. He seems like a nice guy in real life, but he just doesn't have the range to pull off the self-serious, tortured bad-rear end. I'll probably keep watching just for Wendell Pierce.
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saw the first episode and it was meh. Does it get any better. Also, why didn't they just shoot him as they were exiting the room at the end? It doesn't seem like he would be able to lob a grenade down the hallway when he has 5 rounds in his chest/head.
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Wizgot posted:saw the first episode and it was meh. Does it get any better. Also, why didn't they just shoot him as they were exiting the room at the end? It doesn't seem like he would be able to lob a grenade down the hallway when he has 5 rounds in his chest/head. That's about par for the course for the whole series.
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Phenotype posted:He wasn't, though. John Krasinski is charismatic and fun to watch, and I don't think I would have enjoyed this show so much if it was some no-name actor. It was really the character of Jack Ryan that was written as a little too bland, and I think it's a credit to Krasinski that he was able to bring it off as well as he did. Maybe with a second season they'll have a little more leeway to write him as something other than the perfect milquetoast protagonist. He's forgettable. I can't even describe him.
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Is this exactly like any Tom Clancy novel in that it’s completely straight faced hoo-rah America is great action hero with zero irony or self awareness?
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It isn’t jingoistic, no
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Phenotype posted:He wasn't, though. John Krasinski is charismatic and fun to watch, and I don't think I would have enjoyed this show so much if it was some no-name actor. It was really the character of Jack Ryan that was written as a little too bland, and I think it's a credit to Krasinski that he was able to bring it off as well as he did. Maybe with a second season they'll have a little more leeway to write him as something other than the perfect milquetoast protagonist. I like him better than Kiefer Sutherland by far, but he does seem the weaker part of the show. I agree with everybody saying Suleiman is the best actor and character in S1. The thing for me with Krasinski is that whenever he actually tries to act I just see Jim. That scene where he's getting all serious with the doctor woman and telling her about the awful moment in his past, he doesn't look like he's mourning. He looks like he's got to deliver some really bad news and he feels sorry for you, not that he himself feels bad. Like "oh, hey, sorry about this" and I just see Jim Halpert, not Jack Ryan. The Bunk was pretty good as his boss.
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I was on Mousa’s side at first. Kid just wanted to rock out to Safety Dance and not do his chores. The US took that away from him.
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I don't but Krasinski so far as an action actor. I'd rather watch a show of Suleiman, how a survivor of a bombing and finances grad, turned into terrorist.
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benzine posted:I'd rather watch a show of Suleiman, how a survivor of a bombing and finances grad, turned into terrorist. Its Narcos all over again
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John DiFool posted:Is this exactly like any Tom Clancy novel in that it’s completely straight faced hoo-rah America is great action hero with zero irony or self awareness? The main lead Krasinski said he wanted to make a TV series for red state republicans.
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Rocksicles posted:The Bodyguard is 3 epiosdes in and has twice the story telling of Jack Ryan. I'd heard good things and this comment pushed me over the edge. Ya'll... Bodyguard is really loving awesome.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I was on Mousa’s side at first. Kid just wanted to rock out to Safety Dance and not do his chores. Israel bombed his house. That was the start of the 1982 Lebanon War
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Rocksicles posted:Israel bombed his house. That was the start of the 1982 Lebanon War An excellent movie of that war is Waltz with Bashir
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benzine posted:An excellent movie of that war is Waltz with Bashir LadyPictureShow posted:I was on Mousa’s side at first. Kid just wanted to rock out to Safety Dance and not do his chores. It could have been US planes, i just rewatched the beginning it says 1983 and the US first dropped bombs in 1983. Also, that's when Safety Dance came out. edit: But the plane profile looks a lot like an Israeli C7 Rocksicles fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Sep 4, 2018 |
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What's a better version of this show that I can jump on? Flaws and all, it really hit my 24 itch that I thought had been scratched for good, and I do wish there were more than 8 episodes. I fell off of Homeland around season 4, so I don't know that I'd want to try jumping back on.
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Phenotype posted:What's a better version of this show that I can jump on? Flaws and all, it really hit my 24 itch that I thought had been scratched for good, and I do wish there were more than 8 episodes. I fell off of Homeland around season 4, so I don't know that I'd want to try jumping back on. Can't think of anything that is a close match. Killing Eve and The Americans are both recent good spy shows though.
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Phenotype posted:What's a better version of this show that I can jump on? Flaws and all, it really hit my 24 itch that I thought had been scratched for good, and I do wish there were more than 8 episodes. I fell off of Homeland around season 4, so I don't know that I'd want to try jumping back on. Deep State ? Mark Strong is the main guy.
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Phenotype posted:What's a better version of this show that I can jump on? Flaws and all, it really hit my 24 itch that I thought had been scratched for good, and I do wish there were more than 8 episodes. I fell off of Homeland around season 4, so I don't know that I'd want to try jumping back on. Not sure if it can be found anywhere but I remember The Grid from 2004 being very good.
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