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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Good show. Wish they bothered to keep track of bullet counts though, magic pistols everywhere that seem to carry 20 bullets or more. They waste them on half-assed shots and never seem to reload or carry extra magazines, and yet they just keep shooting.

Also the ending had a major plot hole for me...

(ENDING SPOILER) At the end there's a bomb with a cell phone activation. The secret service shuts down the cell tower so the terrorists can't call the bomb. I'm expecting the leader to send one of the terrorists back inside to manually set the bomb off, sacrificing himself but keeping the plan going. But instead they say "we need to get far enough away" and they go running to try to get to another cell phone tower. This makes zero loving sense, as the bomb would still have to be able to receive the call, and the bomb isn't moving now is it? When Jack gets to the terrorist and shoots him, he grabs his phone to see that it had JUST gotten cell phone service, and he shuts the phone off, just in the neck of time to save the bomb from going off. Except, how the hell did that call connect? Doesn't really work. Sloppy.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 2, 2018

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

CeeJee posted:

Ep 2, so happy to see the return of CTU perimeters where the main baddie can walk out of easily, unnoticed by anyone not named Jack

Somewhat similar, at the end (ENDING SPOILER) Someone happens to notice the kid speaking Arabic or something so shoots the bodyguard and arrests him, and yet somehow NOBODY is observant enough to notice that the crying kid is staring at his father and tracking him as he moves and practically calling out to him? And then somehow even after the father is gone, our hero Jack Ryan shows up and instantly realizes that the kid looking to the left meant his dad went that way. But really, NOBODY is gonna glance over to see what that kid is looking at and notice the suspicious EMT? Jeeze man.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Its definitely not perfect, but I definitely enjoy this show more than 24 or Homeland.

Pierson posted:

Is it being adapted from the books or are they going of their own storylines?

Pretty sure this is all new, unless there was a book where Jack Ryan hunted Bin Laden that I missed.

They're trying to adapt it to be more modern than cold war stuff.

E: I guess it pulls some ideas from Executive Orders, but Jack isn't where he was in that book so its pretty heavily new stuff.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Sep 2, 2018

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

LesterGroans posted:

It's really funny that Jack Ryan has an arc where he learns to be comfortable killing a suspect with civilians in the way. That's some Die Hard-rear end poo poo.

Really hope they don't turn Ryan into Jack Bauer.

mysteryberto posted:

At 24:30 it shows them hardwiring it to land line.

Ahh, good catch. I thought they were just plugging in power for the fans but you're right.

mysteryberto posted:

Also a lot of handguns can carry 20 rounds.

Typically to get those numbers you need some kind of extended magazine protruding below the gun at least a little bit. But yeah I guess they could all just have 20-round handgun mags. Its not impossible it just seems implausible for service weapons.

But then again its pretty reasonable for them to have like 18 rounds so guess that checks out fine. Still seems like they're wasting bullets though.

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Sep 2, 2018

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Mu Zeta posted:

He wasn't speaking literally. He said the mom is now living with the Americans and that she's basically dead to their family.

Doesn't he tell his son she's dead after he gives the order to have her killed?

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Phenotype posted:

He wasn't, though. John Krasinski is charismatic and fun to watch, and I don't think I would have enjoyed this show so much if it was some no-name actor. It was really the character of Jack Ryan that was written as a little too bland, and I think it's a credit to Krasinski that he was able to bring it off as well as he did. Maybe with a second season they'll have a little more leeway to write him as something other than the perfect milquetoast protagonist.

I like him better than Kiefer Sutherland by far, but he does seem the weaker part of the show. I agree with everybody saying Suleiman is the best actor and character in S1.

The thing for me with Krasinski is that whenever he actually tries to act I just see Jim.

That scene where he's getting all serious with the doctor woman and telling her about the awful moment in his past, he doesn't look like he's mourning. He looks like he's got to deliver some really bad news and he feels sorry for you, not that he himself feels bad. Like "oh, hey, sorry about this" and I just see Jim Halpert, not Jack Ryan.

The Bunk was pretty good as his boss.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

benzine posted:

I'd rather watch a show of Suleiman, how a survivor of a bombing and finances grad, turned into terrorist.

Its Narcos all over again

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

NoDamage posted:


- The terrorists really should have found themselves a payphone they could have used to call the hospital line.


How are you posting from the 90s?

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Hasselblad posted:

When he was telling her that it was a boring job I assumed it was a wink-wink nudge-nudge cannot-talk-about-it-so-lets-drop-it thing.
Her outrage was jarringly dumb. She even griped about the scars. Did he not tell her about Afghanistan?

Yeah that part was straight ridiculous and stupid. SHE SAW HIM GET PICKED UP BY THE COAST GUARD IN A CHOPPER OFF THE LAWN. Then she asks about it and he's clearly like "wink wink can't say nudge nudge I'm lying but can't tell you" and she's like "yeah okay I get it, that's cool, secret agent man, you're cute"

And then later she's like "abwaaaaaaa? CIA? How dare you have secrets!"

I do not know what the hell they were thinking.

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