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CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Ep 2, so happy to see the return of CTU perimeters where the main baddie can walk out of easily, unnoticed by anyone not named Jack

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CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Elendil004 posted:

It's like, at least for the action at the end of ep1 and ep2 they didn't talk to a single military or law enforcement expert..

I mean Tom Clancy has problems, but one thing he always did in his origional Ryanverse books was talk to military folks. Sure sometimes it was to wank off with future war stuff but this poo poo never would have flown in a Clancy book.

I guess it costs nothing for a writer to go 'while 300 uniformed cops handled the perimeter the SWAT team went in with helicopters overhead' while a TV show would have to pay for all that.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Phenotype posted:

What's a better version of this show that I can jump on? Flaws and all, it really hit my 24 itch that I thought had been scratched for good, and I do wish there were more than 8 episodes. I fell off of Homeland around season 4, so I don't know that I'd want to try jumping back on.

Not sure if it can be found anywhere but I remember The Grid from 2004 being very good.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Now I've finished it this is Strike Back with half the charm and a quarter of the action.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

physeter posted:

I was in Paris last summer. They're undertrained. Casually sweeping civilians with the muzzles of their SMGs while on patrol was my particular favorite (saw this so much I turned it into a drinking game, suspect they weren't even loaded because who the gently caress does that), followed by never looking up in a city of man-made canyons. What the hell are they patrolling if they aren't checking those sight lines? Then an actual incident went down (not exciting, some nut with a hammer @ Notre Dame) and I got to see the French version of SWAT in action. They were screaming more than the civilians, apparently unaware that screaming doesn't calm anything down. I seriously thought this one guy in heavy body armor ten feet away was going to stroke out. He was wearing more armor than Optimus Prime, and was like beet-loving-red and hollering at an APC for awhile until he finally realized no one was inside of it. Maybe he was mad that someone left an APC unattended in the middle of the street? I'd be mad too, but yelling at the vehicle isn't going to help. How about use one of the radios attached to your body?

Then the army showed and things tightened up. I think they figured a lone wolf was either a nutjob or a honeypot, spread out and got elevation. Good firearm discipline and no fear on their faces. Swept for unexploded IEDs immediately instead of clustering up and gawking at each other. The training difference was huge.

Show is good. Best Jack Ryan since Red October but still Jack Ryan.

Brussels also had a lot of regular cops suddenly given heavy gear to beef up the presence on the streets. At some point they must have run out of weapons because a lot were carrying Uzis, Beretta SMG's and carbines like they just stepped out of a 70's Italian police movie.

But the French really got screwed over in this show. Not only the botched raid but after suffering a massive WMD nerve gas terror attack they vanish from the show as soon as Ryan leaves France, not doing anything themselves but apparently passively waiting by the sidelines waiting for the CIA to give them information. As if they do not have their own secret services.

CeeJee fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Sep 21, 2018

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