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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


"Of Jewish and Mexican descent" doesn't loving matter, "White-ness" is in the eye of the beholder. The WP hand sign thing is kinda eye-rolley, but lets not pretend like the right doesn't have it's lot of folks who would be first in the oven vehemently spreading their propaganda or working to help their political agenda.


edit: It's not it's Barackaflockaflame doing it at a NAACP rally, where a knee jerk reaction would be absurd.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Sep 4, 2018

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

boop the snoot posted:

I’m not saying she isn’t giving a shout out to her fellow white supremacists. I’m saying who really gives a poo poo in 2018? I’d rather Nazis and racists be hush hush and wink wink nudge nudge than, oh I don’t know, the President of the United States.

Jokes on you, you get both.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Handsome Ralph posted:

Yeah I completely agree with you here.

I said as much in D&D and proceed to have some broke brain accuse me of saying we should completely ignore it with a bonus snipe that people got upset with the Nazis coopting the swastika so we can get angry about this too. When I pointed out people were far more concerned about the Nazis whole planned ethnostate then they were about a far east peace symbol being coopted, he doubled down.

I think you can do both right. Economic and political stuff that isnt out right racist/classist, but has racist/classist outcomes. Red lining or Voter ID law for example. Has enough cover that the ill informed can say "naw theyre not racist/classist" The alternative is just worst. You can also point out, yo this guy is dog whistling and doin nazi memes and hasnt been thrown out. Maybe that stuff can drive votes.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

That Works posted:

His platform is OK. But like, we just got done electing an attention-seeking D list celebrity who has no real typical qualifications for the presidency.

So you're saying that a lawyer with what appears to be an alright platform is an improvement?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

This rules because Trump has already initiated a witch hunt (article's words) about who talked to Woodward and he's acting even more paranoid than usual, just because of that book. Then lol this comes out.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1037429925521895425?s=19

Quick someone submit an anonymous op ed with a southern drawl from a high ranking Justice Dept. official calling trump "An uppity carpet bagging ragamuffin"

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


Nice quote + picture combo in this tweet.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

As I understand it the difference between manslaughter and homicide is if you would rather the dude died or not. So how can any sort of intentional discharge of a gun that ends up in a dude the gun was pointing at not homicide? A gun is a tool whose sole purpose is to destroy people, animals, pieces of paper, etc. It's not like "Was working construction and having a nail gun fight, and accidentally lobotomized my friend not realizing you can do that, whoopsie" or "I got startled and tasered the dude and the dude had a heart condition, whoopsie"

edit: in fairness I could be and probably wrong. I'm really curious.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Sep 10, 2018

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

mlmp08 posted:

They're going to have to add "I promise you don't live here" to this sign

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status/1038156540518297601

Dunno if this will make more or less likely for buddy to get shot.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Syrian Lannister posted:

So the Texas State Board of Education is going to remove Killary and Helen Keller from its history curriculum

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2018/09/14/history-curriculum-texas-remembers-alamo-forgets-hillary-clinton-helen-keller

quote:

Reinsert the biblical figure of Moses and remove Thomas Hobbes from section on "individuals whose principles of laws and government institutions informed the American founding."

Yes...yes... lets put in the guy who may or may not have actually existed and bench the guy who, no poo poo, was the guy who helped establish Social Contract theory which modern Governments are based on.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Nine of Eight posted:

The social contract is more of a Locke and Rousseau thing, Hobbes was all about how life was "nasty, short and brutish" and therefore it was perfectly ok to have a strongman in charge.


Leviathan was the precursor to all of that.

Leviathan posted:

Sovereign power can be attained in two ways. One is by natural force, as when a man makes his children submit themselves and their children to his government, by being able to destroy them if they refuse, or•subdues his enemies to his will by war, sparing their lives on condition that they submit their wills to his government.

The other is when men agree amongst themselves to submit to someone man or assembly of men, doing this voluntarily in the confidence that this man or assembly will protect them against all others. This latter, may be called a political commonwealth, or commonwealth by institution, and the former a commonwealth by acquisition.

His deal was life in nature sucks because folks don't cooperate, and that's why folk banded together either by force or by choice and gave up some of their rights and in return the sovereign won't abuse them, and in return for that the people won't send for guillotines.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 15, 2018

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

edit: beaten

Is this the real life?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I'm not even sure I'd take that deal even if I was a tester for the pornography, video games, and nachos factory and making seven figgies.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

When your own family goes on TV and says "This guys a gently caress up, do not vote for him", how badly did you ruin Christmas/Thanksgiving over the years?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010


This is the most galling thing about this administration. The Trump Admin has made too many good thinking Americans agree with poo poo heels like John McCain and Ben Shapiro. This should not stand, and would be a hanging offense in any sane country.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I thought they where gonna assassinate him after the MH17 shenanigans.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

Fister Roboto posted:

Founding father worship is a disease.

The worst part about it, is that much like throwing bible verses at Christian Fundamentalists throwing actual no poo poo quotes of the founders promoting pretty liberal ideas at Chuds ends in frustration.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

facialimpediment posted:

There's a serious argument to be had about state/federal double jeopardy laws, where someone could be acquitted on a state charge, then get convicted on a federal charge for the same exact thing. The case is mostly about a guy that essentially had that happen to him and is currently in prison.


One of those "stumbling on good policies by mistake because you're a corrupt shitter" from the Republicans pushing for it.

On one hand it prevents dudes from committing hate crimes in rural rear end Mississippi, and having the jury nullify it because they're some racist trash and the dude gets off clean.

On the other I could see where this is hosed if those same pieces of trash control at the fed and not the state level.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

CommieGIR posted:


Which is still hilarious, because all you have to ask is why the KKK and White Supremacists consistently vote for the GOP?

Fake news, did you kno the Demokkkrats where the party of southern states during the CONFEDERACY and they had SLAVES! Makes you think right :thunk:

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

I'm kinda with the no-impeachment poo poo.

I feel Trump would be a way more ineffectual lame duck, and may even cost his party a few more points by yelling at clouds than a lame duck Pence who may know the wheels to turn to affect policy without having any legislative controls. The Democrats in the meanwhile could subpoena and investigate the poo poo out of Trump et, al. to hopefully toss them in jail for corruption of one kind or another.

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Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

BigDave posted:

Is this...is this good? I can't tell.


Means the lawsuit against trump taking presents can proceed.

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