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Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
19 demo feels great to me idk what people are complaining about

Defense feels way more responsive

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Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
Again the 19 demo feels really good to me lol I'm happy about it

I already know I'm gonna be mad at some lucky headers tho because headers seem very good

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Timed Finishes definitely seems like a niche tryhard thing which is probably good, you don't want to make it too easy to do

I think honestly 90% of people are gonna be better served by turning it off entirely so you don't accidentally gently caress up any easy chances, and you probably almost never want to do it when you have a high % chance like a 1 on 1 or something

I'm still gonna leave it on and just practice it tho because it seems fun and you can hit some cracker long shots with it

Glad everyone else likes the demo too, I really think this one feels the best in a long time and I'm looking forward to playing it

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
I didn't get anything great but I probably got stuff totaling about 10k, gonna see if I can spin that up at all before launch

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Aren't the leaderboards separated by console?

On the web app it has people with 200k match earnings already, and the game isn't out for PS4!!!

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

PRESS TRIANGLE TO HIDE

As someone who never really hosed with FUT, what is the best way to consistently make money on the app?

Also I wanna get down with some pro clubs, is there a group of people who all play each year?

Buy a popular player for his lowest BIN, mark it up like 4 clicks of whatever price they're at, like say buy for 1800 and list for 2100 or 2200, and just keep listing it every hour and someone will eventually buy it because they have paid $10000 for points and have 500k coins and they are just doing an SBC or some poo poo and don't care, or some other narrative as to why they are lazy and buying a 2200 coin player, but anyway it happens

Once the game launches do this with more expensive players that are super popular when you have more coins

For instance, last year I would buy Son for like 25k and re sell him for 29-30k several times per day

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

Thank you!

What’s the best way to determine what to pay for a player? Just pick someone and keep an eye on their BIN prices over the course of a day?

Yeah more or less, you kinda get a feel for it, although sometimes you will lose all your profits sometimes if you aren't aware of when the usual crashes happen, like around black friday and some other times like that

There's also a trick of just listing your best player overnight for like a 20% profit every night, maybe it sells one time every couple weeks but it's barely any work and you'd be surprised how much extra you could get from time to time. If you have one 100k dude that's just a free 15k occasionally.

Another good thing is to try and snipe players who are being price fixed, like go to futbin and look in the SBC solutions and look in the top one for an SBC with a good reward, say a mega pack or something.

There's a good chance someone is price fixing a key player in that squad, so say buying all of a silver player and selling him for 3k. If you spam search on that player, or bid on all the cards that are like under 2k or something, you can win a lot because people will just pack those players and list them without checking the price. So you might get one for like 400 coins. The risk of these is if you do the bidding technique and it gets flooded and the price fix doesn't hold, maybe they all drop down to 400 coins again, so just be careful, but it has potential to make a bunch.

Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Sep 21, 2018

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

Awesome, thank you! I created my UT last night, now I'm at work and I tried to log into the FUT Web App, but it says I cannot use it because I have a trial version of the game (The EA Access 10 hour trial). Is it possible to use the Web App now, or do I need to wait until the 25th?

Web App should be available for everyone atm

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

There's no way anyone can be playing the game right now besides the EA Access 10 hour trial, correct?

When I try to log on to the web app, it says: "Sorry, trial access users cannot use the FIFA 19 Companion App or Web App. You must purchase a full copy of FIFA19 and log into FUT on your console or PC before you can use Companion Apps."

I already purchased the game. I pre-ordered it over a week ago. I already started the game on my Xbone and created my FUT club, and opened all my packs and set my team up, etc.

Any ideas why I can't use the App?

I think some people's accounts are bugged, that happened last year too. You can call EA about it but iirc they had no idea what was going on and just had to tell some people to wait until the game was out :(

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
I got IF Werner from one of my SBC packs!

Dunno whether to sell him now or wait a couple weeks to sell him before the first weekend league, or whatever

I'll probably sell him now, I think I can make more by trading for a few days than holding onto him and just getting the 20-30k rise from him alone

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Tzen posted:

drat what luck!

Yeah I'm starting with like 125k at least now which is pretty sweet

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Seltzer posted:

I got IF Xhaka who will shoot up to like 40k when POTM comes around. In the mean time I'm gonna build an old school 433 (2) and use him as a deeplying playmaker for now like how I used to use Xabi Alonso.

ALSO I GOT BALE IN AN SBC PACK.



Guess who's on easy street. Hell yea. Debating on selling him now (around ~450k) and just super investing in IFs while they're dirt cheap and people have no coins or waiting until he possibly rises around WL to ~600k

Hooray

One thing I don't get is like how people are even getting for example a million coins to buy a million coin player on PS4

You can't buy points so like, suppose you pack Ronaldo, how does someone have the coins to buy him? You can say well they packed someone really high themselves, but then okay, how did someone else have the coins to buy that player? etc

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Seltzer posted:

Whales. People buying thousands of dollars in fifa points and quickselling a lot of trash. Also EA access has been up for like 4 days now so match coins are in the game. Anyone buying a 250k plus player right now is a whale or a top .5% trader.

I'm talking about PS4, there is no early access, and afiak you can't buy points from the web app

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

hopterque posted:

you can normally absolutely buy points from the web app

How? I'm not gonna do it but I don't see that anywhere so now I'm curious

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
https://twinfinite.net/2018/09/fifa-19-buy-fifa-points-web-app-can-you/

"Sadly, it’s not possible to buy FIFA Points on the Web App, and that seems unlikely to change any time soon. For past entries in the FIFA series, when the Web App has gone live and enabled people to manage almost every aspect of their Ultimate Team from the comfort of their computer or mobile device, the ability to buy FIFA Points through this app has never been available."

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Mine doesn't have the plus sign, maybe you had to do something to link a card and set that up

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

Is there anything on the FUT transfer market I should keep an eye out for buying low this early in the game, that I can turn around and sell for a profit?

Any good players pretty much

They are gonna rise sharply around the time of the first weekend league when people spend their coins on a team so that they can get the best possible record

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
He won't be too expensive he's slow this year

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Tzen posted:

Yeah I figured his price increase would only be since he's an 85 rated card, for SBC fodder and whatnot. I had a Hawk card and put it on him, bringing his stats to:
PACE +5, 84
Acceleration +5, 88
Sprint Speed +5, 81
which will be serviceable until I get a Hunter card.

To be honest I packed the 88 IF Robben as one of my monthlies in 17 and I always felt like he never really played as good as his stats indicated, I dunno. It always made me have to be really predictable to cut in with him, too. Everyone knows you can't do anything if they just make you keep going outside.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Seltzer posted:

Here's my hot trading tip. Remember everything I say about trading is a suggestion and I take no responsibility if you lose your shirt doing what I do. That being said this one is pretty easy, I just wanted to be done with it myself before I shared it. Players who transfer to a club not in the game get their cards pulled from packs, when they do that very early on in the game cycle it makes their cards very rare and the price jumps even if they are trash. Well, Negredo transferred from besiktas to some UAE club and I won 45 of his card for 350 coins on open bid. He'll probably be pulled next week. Could hit 10k but even if he just hits 1-2k it's still an easy flip. I'll share my next scheme after I'm done doing it myself. Good luck.

This is a cool idea. I'm on PS4 so I picked some up although they are up to like 500-600 now.

What I don't get it is, even with 0 supply, where will the demand come from? I mean sure he's still rare but he'll be still a 78 overall crap card, is it just the combination of nation/league in case it pops up as useful in an SBC?

Anyway since I'm PS4 feel free to PM me any hot trading schemes you are planning if you ever want free poker coaching or something!!

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Yeah I'm gonna probably load up on squad fitness tonight and then a couple 20k players that are at 35-40k on xbox and then just build a team with like 20k or something like a bundesliga team or whatever

I overestimated my coin total before I think I have right around 100k so I might just try to be patient this year and only spend like 25 percent of my coins and see if I can trade to a few million or something, shouldn't be hard on top of rewards

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Built my cheap squad for tomorrow and the next couple weeks I guess:

https://www.easports.com/fifa/ultimate-team/web-app/?showoffId=yPzw1WxjnOdBH:FFA19PS4

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Yeah I always buy the few extra days for $20, I don't really care about the extra packs but I'll pay $7 a day or whatever to play early, sure

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

I thought all preorders got access to the game 3 days early but apparently it’s just the champions edition and the ultimate edition. Welp I upgraded my preorder because I can’t help myself!

Still don’t have access to the web or the companion apps, I better get access tomorrow!

Is buying a ton of squad fitness cards as soon as the game comes out a good investment? Surely they will rise in price over the first week or two?

Yeah I've bought probably 50 or so at 400 each, you can definitely sell them for 600-700 once weekend league rolls around no problem

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

Before my trial ran out yesterday I didn’t see any going for less than 600-700 (Xbox). Should I buy them at that price or no?

That's a pretty close call tbh, if they're already that high. I think you could probably get them pretty regularly for that during WL last year, especially once people started getting reward packs that are just full of rare consumables (like the rare gold packs etc)

That was on PS4 tho, maybe they got higher on xbox, seltzer would know

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Tzen posted:

drat nice squad.

I could have built something similar with my Robben money, but I'll take an early gamble on him. I see he's now going for 17-8k, so if it turns out he is poo poo, I'll at least sell him back at a profit.

Yeah I just got disillusioned with him when I had the 88 one a couple years ago cause you can only really do one thing with him and it might work in real life since he can genuinely beat people off the dribble, but if it's a year where dribbling isn't good like 16 or 17 it's pretty hard to make him work

He might be ok this year because players seem much more responsive. A slow but agile dribbler like Robben or Ribery (or maybe even Zlatan!!!) might be actually playable this year


Actually maybe I shouldn't lump Zlatan in with "agile", though he does have 5 star skill moves

I'm curious to see how the 4-3-2-1 works this year, I liked it in 17 although like sometimes I feel like you really need a lot of money because to make it work super well you need CMs that can shoot and kinda do everything and obviously they're *extremely Mr. Dink voice* VERY EXPENSIVE

I had to go with Mario Gotze because as a goon I can't not use someone named Goatse


Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Sep 25, 2018

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Oh yeah I dunno if I'll get on mic but if anyone wants to see some gameplay I'll probably stream my first few games tonight, I'll probably play for an hour or two unless something comes up

Also, I bought up a couple Fernandinhos at 20k because he was selling for 35k on Xbox so I figured that's a lot of profit margin if he goes up that much, and I had one listed at 30k just for shits, and someone bought him!!! I immediately bought another for 26.5k to try and re sell tomorrow so that was a cool little 2.5k profit for just listing him

Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Sep 25, 2018

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Lol it made me forfeit my first game from turning twitch on but I'm streaming now, oops

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
I ended up going 5-1-2, 3-1-1 in placements counting my fake loss to put me at div 5, hopefully I can get out of that because in div 5 you have to win like 30 games to get in weekend league at all lol

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Weirdly my top scorer is Delaney who has like 10 goals in 12 games or something.

I might make some minor upgrades with the money I'm getting from these initial coin boosts, like buy a couple 10k players like Coman or Tolisso and Thiago.

I think running the 4-3-2-1 the CMs are definitely the most important part of the team since even in the final third I get a lot of offense from them coming up to shoot longshots or running through on a 1-2 so I'm gonna emphasize probably making them my best players.

I played two squad battles, I won 1 on legendary and I lost the other one to 3 header goals and a penalty kick :negative:

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Man, divisions is gonna be a crazy grind to actually get to the higher ones. I'm slowly gaining in division 5, and playing fairly decent people

Some of the pro streamers I watch are like barely in division 3

Does anyone know if there are reddit posts or anything about which rewards might be the best to take for the weekly rewards?

I kinda think the tradeable pack might be the overall highest reward but also highest variance?

The untradeable reward is obviously the highest amount of like gross reward in terms of coin value but it's going to be mostly trash you can't convert to anything except through SBCs so I don't think that will be good to take.

I think it's roughly something like, for the top division 5 reward, you get to pick 58k coins straight up, or a rare players and two jumbo premium gold which I think is worth something like 80k total, or a final choice of something like double those packs but untradeable.

Actually looking at that, maybe just taking the 58k is the best because with the packs in the jumbo premium gold you're going to get a lot of consumables and junk

I really like this model though, it actually makes it somewhat doable if you wanted to do a "packed players only" run because you could get a huge amount of untradeable players

Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Sep 26, 2018

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Swarmin Swedes posted:

Packed Fabinho and Fred in an SBC pack, seeing as both might get a OTW card should I just wait to sell and see if the price rises (weekend league could push up prices too) or should I take the money now (roughly 60k for Fabinho and 25k for Fred) and reinvest?

Probably yeah, you could just buy a bunch of 10k in form discards and sell them a week later for a few k more, and keep doing that to get exponential growth on your money. I would assume Fabinho and Fred are unlikely to gain 30-40% more and afaik I think you can usually get that from the discard in forms within a week or two

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
I mean, I want to play with good players, I just mean it takes a long time to rank up, it doesn't use like an elo system or anything

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Probably late in the week because he's extinct longer, I would guess, like Monday or Tuesday? I dunno though I don't usually do TOTW buys like this very much

Also, just a tip for everyone, if you are doing the in form investing, and you're just holding the cards in your club, don't! Put them at some fairly high markup like go ahead and list them at 15k if you bought them for 10, and maybe you'll get a lazy buyer that buys them while they're still like 12k or something!

It's another freeroll, no harm in doing it unless you think they'll go up so fast that you'll miss out by selling them too low but that's unlikely.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

Is there no way to Ultimate Team matches against opponents with similar level teams?

I have an all bronze team, but if I go to play online I just get matched up with all gold squads. Are there no bronze tournaments, or anything like the previous FIFA's used to have? Or am I just stuck playing super unfair matches until I spend a bunch of coins on a gold squad?

No you have to spend some coins but I mean honestly like if you activate the coin boosts you're getting 1500 coins per match you play, plus the SBC rewards are pretty generous, even just a 30k team is pretty easy to have in a day or two and that's like a decent team of 80-81 overalls.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Yeah there's not a lot of demand for bad player gameplay sorry

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Tzen posted:

I love that there's a choice but I can't decide which one I will choose. I'm leaning more towards the untrableables, since there is more, and it's so early that if I pack some awesome player, I'll end up just using them for a while rather than selling them. As for all the trash, it'll go towards SBCs, since I haven't completed alot of them yet.

I thought about it and I think i'd rather do the untradeables later when there's SBCs that I can immediately put them in, like the 86+/85+ overall SBCs and such. Since you get a ton of rare cards it seems like a shame to recycle them in the gold upgrade, but I can't really use them for anything right away.

I might honestly just be boring and grab the 58k coins, between that and the 30k from squad battles this week if I get elite 1, that's 90k in the first week that I can start investing/trading with

Oh, and I managed to hit Division 4 just in time for the new week to start in division rivials!!

I was sweating it, I only was winning by 1 goal for most of the game and I was probably gonna stop playing for the night if I lost or didn't win, so it reminded me of like an important game in weekend league or something, was fun.

I dunno what the top division 4 reward is, I'm guessing like 75k or something.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer
Oh yeah quick skill move notes, fake shot seems a bit buffed this year to me, I think it exits from the move and gathers momentum faster. I seem to be able to beat people with it more often than last year. The L1 fake shot is pretty good for a speed boost too if you kinda look someone off who likes to aggressively cover passes.

Obviously also finesse shots with the timed shooting are really good if you get an opening. Also probably the best way to beat squad battles since the AI gives you so much space.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

RCarr posted:

Am I doing myself a major disservice by turning off the timed shot thing? I don’t like it.

I think it's really fun to nail but I mean you can definitely play without it

If you don't plan on practicing it at all and you sometimes double tap by accident then sure, turn it off, but finesse timed shots are very good

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Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

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Grimey Drawer

Dollas posted:

Anyone else playing pro clubs noticing the AI being a little more batshit than 'normal'. Sometimes they insta ping the ball 15 times between 3 of them (whether there is an opposing player near them or not) and calmly work out of the back as if they are all 99 rated, and other times in the same situation they just decide to blast it out of bounds. The passing choices seem a lot more bizarre and way more rapid fire prone this year, there are several times per game where i'm giving the ball to them because they are open and i have 2 defenders on me and they intermediately give the ball back to me (without a request).

AI in pro clubs is such trash and it's a shame

In 17 it was really honestly decent and you could trust it not to just give the ball away for no reason. In fact it was nearly useless to press the AI because it would almost never give away the ball cheaply. Now you can just bum rush them and overwhelm them pretty easily, and there's STILL the bug where they give it back to you like you just said which is a straight carryover from 18.

EA hates pro clubs :(

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