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the mean lunch lady posted:Rams trading Goff and drafting a new QB is my theory on what they do for 2020. Someone on Twitter was saying that the great QB on a rookie contract setup is so powerful of an advantage that some forward thinking NFL team with a sharp offensive coaching staff (Rams) would just keep trying to draft and develop rookie QBs rather than ever have a QB on a regular contract. The problem is having the draft capital to do that every 3-5 years
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Sep 24, 2018 21:52
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pubic works project posted:Well the Browns said that about Josh Gordon and look where he ended up Whatever happened to bleach drinker 1000?
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Sep 24, 2018 21:52
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Chilichimp posted:No way Bell is traded in conference, or to any team playing the Steelers this year. The Steelers probably aren't worried about the Jets. I mean they should worry about their poorly coached team that always underachieves more than any individual opponent anyway.
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Sep 24, 2018 21:55
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Someone on Twitter was saying that the great QB on a rookie contract setup is so powerful of an advantage that some forward thinking NFL team with a sharp offensive coaching staff (Rams) would just keep trying to draft and develop rookie QBs rather than ever have a QB on a regular contract. The problem is having the draft capital to do that every 3-5 years Alternatively they can just circumvent the salary cap and pay the developed QB through their side hustle avocado iced cream sponsorships.
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Sep 24, 2018 21:56
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Someone on Twitter was saying that the great QB on a rookie contract setup is so powerful of an advantage that some forward thinking NFL team with a sharp offensive coaching staff (Rams) would just keep trying to draft and develop rookie QBs rather than ever have a QB on a regular contract. The problem is having the draft capital to do that every 3-5 years Also having competent coaching considering the NFL lives on nepotism and failing up.
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Sep 24, 2018 21:57
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The Steelers probably won't let Bell go for less than a 3rd since they already rooked the Raiders out of a 3rd for Bryant. They might be poorly coached but they have the 2nd best GM in the league
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Sep 24, 2018 21:59
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Packers should snag Bell. They won't of course, but Rodgers can't drag them by himself, especially with a gimpy leg and that poo poo rear end defense.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:03
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Don't really think teh run game is the Packer's problem. They actually ran the ball well last week and have 3 pretty good RBs. Terrible defense and a offense that isn't putting the folks into the best position to succeed is more problematic.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:07
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adaz posted:Don't really think teh run game is the Packer's problem. They actually ran the ball well last week and have 3 pretty good RBs. Terrible defense and a offense that isn't putting the folks into the best position to succeed is more problematic. No, I'm just daydreaming about a silver bullet that'll solve all their problems. Jones actually looked great, but fat Mike didn't use him enough. Montgomery isn't very good though at being a pure back. They need to get creative with him.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:08
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Bell's game is so much more than the run game though. He's the best blitz pick-up guy I have ever seen. He's never given up a sack in the NFL, and by the way, he catches 80 passes/season
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Sep 24, 2018 22:08
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Blitz7x posted:https://twitter.com/FB_FilmAnalysis/status/1044312506145984516 A team that racks up a shitload of yards between the 20s and consistently fucks up in the redzone by either setting for FGs instead of TDs or, like Ross said, picks.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:10
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Leon Einstein posted:Packers should snag Bell. They won't of course, but Rodgers can't drag them by himself, especially with a gimpy leg and that poo poo rear end defense. Packers have too much money tied up in a small number of players already
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Sep 24, 2018 22:10
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Bell's game is so much more than the run game though. He's the best blitz pick-up guy I have ever seen. He's never given up a sack in the NFL, and by the way, he catches 80 passes/season LdT and Sproles were the two best backs i've ever seen against the blitz. Sproles used to absolutely clobber LBs, which is hilarious given how short he is. That said, Bell's almost as good at it, which isn't a small feat.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:11
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Durandal1707 posted:A team that racks up a shitload of yards between the 20s and consistently fucks up in the redzone by either setting for FGs instead of TDs or, like Ross said, picks. Which reminds me, the red zone success fo the 3-0 dolphins (12/12) is probably not sustainable as well and is the sort of other extreme outlier to this. No ints, no picks, no penalties in the red zone
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Sep 24, 2018 22:12
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:The Steelers probably won't let Bell go for less than a 3rd since they already rooked the Raiders out of a 3rd for Bryant. They might be poorly coached but they have the 2nd best GM in the league I can't imagine them trading him for a 3rd. I mean maybe, but I'd think a 2nd would be more or less the floor so they are ensured better compensation than the comp pick. I think 6 games plus playoffs is worth hanging on to him for a more or less lateral pick to the comp pick.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:14
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Someone on Twitter was saying that the great QB on a rookie contract setup is so powerful of an advantage that some forward thinking NFL team with a sharp offensive coaching staff (Rams) would just keep trying to draft and develop rookie QBs rather than ever have a QB on a regular contract. The problem is having the draft capital to do that every 3-5 years If they can sucker some bad team into trading for Goff in a year or two, there's the draft capital they'd need. Goff went from terrible poo poo to good when McVay showed up. There's no reason they'd think they couldn't do that again. There's nothing to Goff that makes him stand out as some irreplaceable guy.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:15
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Earl Thomas loving owns you guys: https://twitter.com/HIGHNOONonESPN/status/1044325044569165825
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Sep 24, 2018 22:16
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Substandard posted:I can't imagine them trading him for a 3rd. I mean maybe, but I'd think a 2nd would be more or less the floor so they are ensured better compensation than the comp pick. I think 6 games plus playoffs is worth hanging on to him for a more or less lateral pick to the comp pick. I seriously doubt he's going anywhere due to the whole rental player part of the equation, but you just never know
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Sep 24, 2018 22:20
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adaz posted:Which reminds me, the red zone success fo the 3-0 dolphins (12/12) is probably not sustainable as well and is the sort of other extreme outlier to this. No ints, no picks, no penalties in the red zone There's no probably about it, that's the definition of unsustainable. the mean lunch lady posted:If they can sucker some bad team into trading for Goff in a year or two, there's the draft capital they'd need. Goff went from terrible poo poo to good when McVay showed up. There's no reason they'd think they couldn't do that again. There's nothing to Goff that makes him stand out as some irreplaceable guy. Yeah I was talking earlier about how the Rams will have unique leverage in any contract negotiations because they don't demand that much from the QB position. The coaching and skill talent makes it so much easier, reduces pressure and allows for clean, easy reads. All the QB has to do is set the feet and make accurate throws to different levels of the field. A lot of guys could do that and that philosophy could lead to them getting a new QB (not that easy to do via the draft, you still need a top pick) or Goff taking an affordable contract. Who knows though, the Rams could be trash by then and all of this won't mean anything
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Sep 24, 2018 22:20
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I say Bell to the Buccs, lets do this Fitzpatrick.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:21
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Kalli posted:Earl Thomas loving owns you guys: LOCKER ROOM CANCER Play posted:There's no probably about it, that's the definition of unsustainable. True enough, but even some regression to the mean is a massive improvement for the Dolphins over previous years.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:23
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LdT was the best run blocker. The reason Adam Gase was ok getting right of Ajayi was because of Drakes pass blocking ability and he’s very TE like in it. God i love him as a RB so much
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Sep 24, 2018 22:28
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adaz posted:True enough, but even some regression to the mean is a massive improvement for the Dolphins over previous years. Oh totally, they've been amazing in the red zone so far and teams that convert touchdowns in the red zone are the teams that tend to win. Just pointing out that it's impossible to maintain a 100% touchdown conversion rate for long and that it might be something to watch if the Dolphins go on to drop a couple games.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:31
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Kalli posted:Earl Thomas loving owns you guys: Sports columnists in Seattle are already calling him a malcontent: https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/has-earl-thomas-considered-that-maybe-he-is-the-one-showing-disrespect/
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Sep 24, 2018 22:39
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Play posted:All the QB has to do is set the feet and make accurate throws to different levels of the field. A lot of guys could do that
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Sep 24, 2018 22:45
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Diva Cupcake posted:There’s are teams in the NFL that have literally gone decades without finding such a QB. And certain franchises never have found one.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:47
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Amy Pole Her posted:LdT was the best run blocker. Memories..... 
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Sep 24, 2018 23:11
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I think if you are going to claim that you can use any semi-competent guy in the McVay system, you would be much better off using veterans than guys on the rookie contract. It seems like the pick investment to get a first round QB every 4ish years along with the bust potential makes signing dudes like Fitz, or Chase Daniel or Josh McCown a much cheaper option with a lower floor. I don't think you can win playoff games consistently without a good QB though, regardless of system.
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Sep 24, 2018 23:20
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Diva Cupcake posted:There’s are teams in the NFL that have literally gone decades without finding such a QB. I forgot to mention that this is under no pressure at all, so you just need to be able to set and make the throw. There are a decent number of quarterbacks that could fill Goff's shoes but you're right they don't exactly grow on trees. My main point is that McVay's system makes it easy on quarterbacks so Goff isn't as irreplaceable as someone like Aaron Rodgers, which makes their negotiations with Goff a bit different than some other teams in the league. This is all pointless speculation in any case
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Sep 24, 2018 23:43
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a neat cape posted:Joe Flacco glances around nervously Barring injury I don't he he needs to worry
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Sep 24, 2018 23:50
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Watch Max Hall or Ryan Lindley get signed to 1 year deals by the Niners.
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Sep 24, 2018 23:50
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https://twitter.com/JeffMillerLAT/status/1044334035034468352?s=19 Calling out the punter directly
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Sep 24, 2018 23:51
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Is Mitch a top 10 scrambler/runner? Rodgers, Wilson, Mariota, cam, Watson, who else?
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Sep 25, 2018 00:01
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mastershakeman posted:Is Mitch a top 10 scrambler/runner? Rodgers, Wilson, Mariota, cam, Watson, who else? Luck is/was fantastic at running. Still TBD after his return if he will go back to murdering himself for extra yards.
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Sep 25, 2018 00:02
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mastershakeman posted:Is Mitch a top 10 scrambler/runner? Rodgers, Wilson, Mariota, cam, Watson, who else? Alex Smith
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Sep 25, 2018 00:05
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Bortles can book it
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Sep 25, 2018 00:05
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a neat cape posted:Alex Smith Can't believe I forgot him. Luck may never rush much again. How are the rookies at it? Or mahomes?
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Sep 25, 2018 00:06
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mastershakeman posted:Is Mitch a top 10 scrambler/runner? Rodgers, Wilson, Mariota, cam, Watson, who else? Taylor, Bortles, Allen, Prescott, and Tannehill all have more rushing yards so far this season.
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