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Propaganda Machine posted:Season 1 has aliens, anal probes, literally Death chasing the kids, mecha Streissand and I think I remember something about an elephant. I feel like part of the show getting stale is Matt'n'Trey forgetting how to be absurd. The world of South Park was a lot funnier when it was more of a Pandora's box than a reflection on society. Sally Struthers gorging herself in Ethiopia while filming PSAs was probably as on the nose as the show should have gotten. Exactly. Also, the kids don't really do anything any more. Kenny is an afterthought. Cartman is rarely OMG evil. Randy is turning into Homer.
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6 Days to Air: The Making of South Park (2011) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIo11liUA0c Old obviously, but relevant and if anyone hasn't seen it but's curious.. well there ya go, it just now popped up in my YouTube feed.
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Dec 12, 2018 06:18
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To be fair, South Park becoming more of a social critic show is likely what keeps it still good, rather than falling into the same rut that long running series like The Simpsons and Family Guy do.
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Dec 12, 2018 06:42
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Indeed, South Park always changing and being different is what keeps it going. The first few seasons of South Park are good and fun, but if they tried to keep the same style going, it would have been canned a long time ago. We don't always like the directions they go with it, but the show is gonna go somewhere different all the time.
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Atomizer posted:Yeah, but Jenner is a lovely person who killed an old woman (texting while driving, actually referenced in SP during that memberberries arc!) and is/was a MAGA chud. Just because she happens to be trans doesn't mean she also isn't an ugly person (in terms of personality, but represented in SP as literal physical ugliness.) I don't think they need to represent anything. She is ugly as gently caress physically. It has nothing to do with the gender reassignment and everything to do her skin has the texture of a used towel from Goodwill layered atop a melting wax sculpture. The fact she is also a completely terrible person for a slew of reasons makes that way more of a comedy target.  I mean look at the picture on the left. Jenner as a dude looked like a shifty meth addict with a lazy eye. Now she looks like a shifty meth addict that stole leather off a 40 year old couch for skin, and that's a publicity photo. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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I'm not going to make fun of someone for being physically ugly (I'm not a supermodel myself) or transgender, or having had plastic surgery, or being deformed, etc. Jenner's pushing 70 so I don't expect her to look, I don't know, "youthful," but they certainly depicted her as a freak in SP and I'm maintaining that it's because of who she is, not what she looks like IRL. What's always fascinated me, however, is if you've watched Family Guy over the past 10-15 years they made frequent references to Bruce Jenner being "a beautiful woman" and similar despite that being long before he/she came out (or whatever the term is.) Did they really know and I was in the dark all this time? 
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Atomizer posted:What's always fascinated me, however, is if you've watched Family Guy over the past 10-15 years they made frequent references to Bruce Jenner being "a beautiful woman" and similar despite that being long before he/she came out (or whatever the term is.) Did they really know and I was in the dark all this time? FG was making jokes about Spacey a while ago and I think they did it for a few other people so who knows.
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Blazing Ownager posted:I don't think they need to represent anything. She is ugly as gently caress physically. It has nothing to do with the gender reassignment and everything to do her skin has the texture of a used towel from Goodwill layered atop a melting wax sculpture.
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Dec 12, 2018 13:20
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Is it fine to poo poo on Trump?
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Atomizer posted:What's always fascinated me, however, is if you've watched Family Guy over the past 10-15 years they made frequent references to Bruce Jenner being "a beautiful woman" and similar despite that being long before he/she came out (or whatever the term is.) Did they really know and I was in the dark all this time? There's supposedly a lot of "in" jokes on Family Guy that only the Hollywood community gets. There was an infamous one that resulted in Jon Stewart furiously calling McFarlane and having a tantrum. Yet nobody outside of Hollywood connected the dots. Avalerion posted:Is it fine to poo poo on Trump? Matt Stone and Trey Parker said that they are leaving Trump alone since EVERYONE is targeting him. This turns out to be a good move since there are so many topics that are being overlooked due to Trumpmania.
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Is that recent? Cause they had a whole season of making GBS threads on Trump.
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Avalerion posted:Is that recent? Cause they had a whole season of making GBS threads on Trump. Yeah, when he first appeared on the political scene and it was a novelty/cutting edge/whatever/gently caress you.
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Milo and POTUS posted:FG was making jokes about Spacey a while ago and I think they did it for a few other people so who knows. I don't remember the Spacey references, but now that you reminded me they had James Woods on playing a sleazy[-ier?] version of himself (e.g. as an incestuous pedophile, etc.) and, uh, that sure turned out to be a more accurate representation of the real guy than we all realized....  punk rebel ecks posted:There's supposedly a lot of "in" jokes on Family Guy that only the Hollywood community gets. There was an infamous one that resulted in Jon Stewart furiously calling McFarlane and having a tantrum. Yet nobody outside of Hollywood connected the dots. I know the exact clip you're talking about - that's the one where the cutaway shows Peter with his "horse leg" or whatever and he donkey-kicks Brian after he walks in the kitchen to which Peter replies something to the extent of, "Brian, you know not to come up behind me, you startled my horse leg" or whatever. I still don't know what the gently caress that's supposed to do with Stewart though. Very McSpanky posted:Yeah, when he first appeared on the political scene and it was a novelty/cutting edge/whatever/gently caress you. That was before even they knew he'd lose-win the election. Of course they had to re-do the post-election episode in less than 24 hours because they'd [correctly] predicted Trumpski would lose. 
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Avalerion posted:Is that recent? Cause they had a whole season of making GBS threads on Trump. Short answer, Yes, but they already partially went back on it because they still had President Garrison show up from time to time. Basically, like most of us, when Trump first announced his presidential run they said "oh, that's funny, that'll provide some good material for a while." Then they watched as he transformed the news cycle into something even they couldn't keep up with, and they were clearly pissed/demoralized about it by the time he won. Even at the pace they do things, they could think they'd nailed him down and by the time the episode aired he'd completely contradict it, because there's basically no rhyme or reason to anything he does.
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They stated because not only is EVERYONE ripping on Trump, but the fact that parody has become reality. How can you possibly parody Trump?
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Milo and POTUS posted:FG was making jokes about Spacey a while ago and I think they did it for a few other people so who knows. yeah i dont understand it but Seth seems to be the keeper of every dark secret in Hollywood and calls poo poo out years in advance
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Probably because everyone just thought Family Guy as a dumb cartoon so Seth could say anything he wanted....and getting mad at Family Guy would only raise his visibility.
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Donovan Trip posted:yeah i dont understand it but Seth seems to be the keeper of every dark secret in Hollywood and calls poo poo out years in advance What's his latest outing?
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Atomizer posted:I know the exact clip you're talking about - that's the one where the cutaway shows Peter with his "horse leg" or whatever and he donkey-kicks Brian after he walks in the kitchen to which Peter replies something to the extent of, "Brian, you know not to come up behind me, you startled my horse leg" or whatever. I still don't know what the gently caress that's supposed to do with Stewart though. Very quote:The joke was subtle but apparently references comments Jon Stewart made on the air, on The Daily Show, about his staff “standing behind him” while going on the air despite the strike.
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Vegetable posted:I have no idea what you’re talking about, both pictures look perfectly fine You know what you're right I'm sorry. Those pictures are stunning. And brave.
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All this "prescient Family Guy gag" chat and nobody has mentioned the one with Bin Laden at the airport? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsBhtst54qk This was before 9/11.
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Waltzing Along posted:Exactly. This is a good point. Cartman's just irritating now and the show seems to lean too hard on using Randy and his antics for gags, which are hit or miss. Talking characters, I'm watching Unfulfilled again and I'm wishing we'd have gotten a couple more episodes out of the Amazon arc in place of the adventures of Overplayed Frat Bro and I DON'T NEED A MAN. Kenny was fun in the scooter episode, though. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Dec 13, 2018 |
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Dec 13, 2018 03:56
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They stopped killing Kenny ages ago, but it actually served a purpose. It showed that there was danger in the situations in which they found themselves. It was a dumb gag, but it did have function.
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I'm tired of the Tegridy Farms subplot. It's a season-long Randy Marsh Adventure, reaches for the " Randy smokes weed, remember when he got cancer to smoke weed?" gag, and wasn't funny.Mall zombies staffing the Amazon warehouse is amazing. e- The kids Bezos brings in.  Was that a bleeped faggots or an F-bomb? "Oh, you bunch of (bleeped, which looked to start with an F). Have fun sucking Jeff Bezos' dick you buncha cunts..." CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Dec 13, 2018 |
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"Merry Christmas. Have fun suckin' Jeff Bezos' dick you buncha cunts."
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Pretty thinly veiled "Everybody else can get cancelled. Why not us?" there.
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Arguably South Park hasn't really done anything this season to piss anyone off enough or at all.
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That episode seemed confused. It wasn't poo poo like last season or nearing the worst of this season, but just average. Trying to say too many things at once and juggle so much it was just meh.
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It's like they had a really good idea at the end of the season, but only 2 episodes to do it in and couldn't get everything done... Was a funny episode and Trump / Garrison in handcuffs at the end brought a smile to my face...
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It tried to tie in/wrap up the entire season when it didn't really have to, but it was decent.
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:It tried to tie in/wrap up the entire season when it didn't really have to, but it was decent. Seems like they've done this the last few seasons and it never works because they never have a cohesive thesis for the season planned from the beginning.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Arguably South Park hasn't really done anything this season to piss anyone off enough or at all. I don't know, I think the Catholic pedophile episode pretty bluntly called out the vatican, rather than having a clever message. That seems like it would have made a bigger splash a few years ago. The casual nature of the school shootings through the season would also have been a bigger deal a few years ago, which was pretty much the message. What else can they do to piss people off?
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Who cares about pissing people off? Just make funny episodes. The Craig/Peru episode is great in how he blatantly points out how the show works. And how he refuses to take part. But now the M&T refuse to take part as well and the show barely ever works.
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Thanks for the context, but...I still don't get it. It's not even really a "joke;" they were really just making an esoteric reference to...standing behind him? Sir Lemming posted:All this "prescient Family Guy gag" chat and nobody has mentioned the one with Bin Laden at the airport? Uh, what episode was that from? I'm sure I've seen every episode except for like the current season, but that clip looks totally unfamiliar to me. Is that an episode they don't show anymore (for obvious reasons?) Kind of like the WTC episode of The Simpsons (I don't watch that show anymore but I'm assuming they don't show it too often for a similar reason?) Waltzing Along posted:They stopped killing Kenny ages ago, but it actually served a purpose. It showed that there was danger in the situations in which they found themselves. It was a dumb gag, but it did have function. Eh, I don't think that was the purpose of killing Kenny at all. It was literally just a gimmick.
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Atomizer posted:Eh, I don't think that was the purpose of killing Kenny at all. It was literally just a gimmick. Yes, it was just a gimmick. Also, even though there were 10 episodes. There were 8 stories this year. They did that in season 17, as well. That had a a 3 parter. This year there were two 2-parters. So, hooray for 8 new South Parks. Maybe 10 episodes is too many and they will need to drop back to 7. Probably the best of the last 4 seasons. So the needle is pointing up!
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:It tried to tie in/wrap up the entire season when it didn't really have to, but it was decent. South Park season 20-something: it didn't really have to, but it was decent
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This was good. Not great, but one of their better Part 2's.Atomizer posted:Uh, what episode was that from? I'm sure I've seen every episode except for like the current season, but that clip looks totally unfamiliar to me. Is that an episode they don't show anymore (for obvious reasons?) Kind of like the WTC episode of The Simpsons (I don't watch that show anymore but I'm assuming they don't show it too often for a similar reason?) Road To Rhode Island, season 2. I never saw it "in the wild" myself, it was cut from all airings after 9/11 and even the DVDs. I think it appears on at least one compilation DVD though. Seth apparently didn't fight the edit too hard because it wasn't really intended to be a 9/11 joke in the first place, but unwittingly became one. (Also, he may have been a little spooked at the time because he was supposed to be on one of those planes.)
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The episode was fine until they dragged Tegridy Farms into it and then seemed to end with "Hey, everybody got high and is happy again". Is there something going on with  in Colorado now they were trying to draw off of other than " has been legal there for a while now and we're going to make a Randy Marsh Adventure subplot about it"? I look back at this season and am trying to think of the memorable episodes (in other words, ones I wouldn't mind seeing on a Wednesday marathon): -Dead Kids. Meh -A Boy and a Priest. Meh. Maxi had never been one to regurgitate bible verses like he was in that episode. -The Problem With A Poo. The Simpsons payoff was the only thing worthwhile. -Tegridy Farms. See above. -The Scoots. Good, mmkay? -Cereal two-parter. Meh, it had its moments. -Buddha Box. This was the point where I'd pretty much had it with PC Principal/Strong Woman. -Unfulfilled two-parter. Part 1 was good, part 2 was a little confused but still better than much of the above.
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