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Boris Galerkin posted:
"The Guy" from High Maintenance, Ben Sinclair. He was the fake Owen that proposed.
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Lycus posted:That would mean the B-dreams were unwatchable, and I don't agree with that at all. Both of those things are intentionally part of the show. Gertie is supposed to be a pathetic character, because the premise of a super aware AI is being satirized and mocked. The Rubik's cube is also supposed to be lame. It's based on Owen's personality, so it needs to be a task that he's especially good at - e.g. the cube that they show him playing with throughout the series. How the gently caress do you people fail so completely at watching television?
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sector_corrector posted:The Rubik's cube is also supposed to be lame. It's based on Owen's personality, so it needs to be a task that he's especially good at - e.g. the cube that they show him playing with throughout the series. Yeah, it's just, like, Owen has these weird "you will save the universe" fantasies but then what's a thing Owen the real person can even do well at all? That's about it, as we're shown
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Sep 26, 2018 05:37
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sector_corrector posted:Both of those things are intentionally part of the show. Gertie is supposed to be a pathetic character, because the premise of a super aware AI is being satirized and mocked. The Rubik's cube is also supposed to be lame. It's based on Owen's personality, so it needs to be a task that he's especially good at - e.g. the cube that they show him playing with throughout the series. Obviously it was "supposed" to be like that because they wrote it that way. Duh. I'm saying that I didn't enjoy them as much as the early stuff.
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I really really liked this show. I think the comparison to big blockbusters like Inception hurts more than it helps because the ending is so lowkey and straightforward while people seem to have expected some massive twist. I am in love with the artstyle of everything in the real world. It's like if the technology of today was discovered earlier and still had the aesthetics of the 80s
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Sep 26, 2018 06:35
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Boris Galerkin posted:Like in the (episode 1 or 2) “Super Liberty Statue” scene you can not tell me that the Russian tour guide and the red hats and the fact that the statue is called “Super Liberty Statue” isn’t flat out making fun of us in TYOOL2016. The tourists with red hats/flags/backpacks are digging at Chinese tourists in our world but in this world it's the Russians who do that poo poo. Not a maga reference
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Lady Galaga posted:The tourists with red hats/flags/backpacks are digging at Chinese tourists in our world but in this world it's the Russians who do that poo poo. Not a maga reference Oh god how did I write the wrong name twice and also the year. Lycus posted:That would mean the B-dreams were unwatchable, and I don't agree with that at all. Yeah I guess it could have been that. I’ll need to rewatch it to check out the background. It’s just that the signage in the building was all in Japanese from what I remember and I don’t think Japanese companies in the US today do that. obliriovrons posted:Yeah, it's just, like, Owen has these weird "you will save the universe" fantasies but then what's a thing Owen the real person can even do well at all? That's about it, as we're shown The final cube scene made laugh with the dialogue. I dunno if it makes sense to people who have never solved a Rubik’s cube but him shouting. “Make the cross! Build up the sides!” is a legit method to solve one of those. It’s called the layer by layer method 
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It's been almost a decade but I got stuck in a month long job training deal and found a Rubix cube. I'm dumb as hell and I think it was only like 3 algorithms that you need to know to solve it.
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Sep 26, 2018 11:18
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I really liked this show and I'm sad there won't be more of it.
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Sep 27, 2018 10:07
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BlackIronHeart posted:I really liked this show and I'm sad there won't be more of it. I know they said there wouldn't be more but I felt they wrote themselves an opportunity for a spinoff-style show with the other lab tech from the other experiment in the elevator near the end. I'm sure they won't do anything with that, but if they wanted to they could.
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They could do an entire 13 ep prequel with Fujita and Mantelray that would be more engaging than any Marvel show but I like the unanswered questions.
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I really liked the show but I'm glad it's its own self-contained one shot story, we don't get that very often. I was kind of hoping that's what Stranger Things was when it first came out.
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Ovenmaster posted:I liked the show, but I finished it feeling a bit disappointed anyway. I never really got a sense of anything being fantastical or profound, despite dealing with a universe where a sentient computer can literally plug into your mind and manipulate your dreamscape. Ovenmaster posted:And the whole 'connection' thing between Jonah Hill and Emma Stone never seemed as significant as it was portrayed either obliriovrons posted:I'm glad it's its own self-contained one shot story, we don't get that very often.
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Tiggum posted:I never got the sense that it was trying to be profound. When Cholo Jonah started talking about Gnosticism I thought they'd reveal that the base world with the alternative New York would be fake and run by another level of AI
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obliriovrons posted:I really liked the show but I'm glad it's its own self-contained one shot story, we don't get that very often. I was kind of hoping that's what Stranger Things was when it first came out. Agreed. Just finished binging this and thought it was a fantastic approach to traumatic events and recovering from grief. There doesn't really need to be more even tho they set up the show in a interesting world.
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They missed a trick by not getting a cameo by Michael Cera, who I could definitely see blending into this world.
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I cried something fierce in episode 9. This show wasn't the trippy psychedelic bender I was expecting, but I still thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was.
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Fried Watermelon posted:When Cholo Jonah started talking about Gnosticism I thought they'd reveal that the base world with the alternative New York would be fake and run by another level of AI This is kind of what I was suspecting toward the end too, strengthened by elements from the dreamscape like Cholo Jorah's car later turning out to be in the "real world" too but owned by Fujita, which Jorah would have no way to know about I did feel slightly let down by the end, possibly because I didn't pay enough attention during my watch to actually pick up on all the details that were the catalyst for the characters overcoming their issues. It ended up feeling a bit unearned as a consequence. Perhaps a rewatch will make it clearer, but it's a thing that I feel is important to communicate clearly the first time. Slashrat fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Sep 29, 2018 |
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Slashrat posted:This is kind of what I was suspecting toward the end too, strengthened by elements from the dreamscape like Cholo Jorah's car later turning out to be in the "real world" too but owned by Fujita, which Jorah would have no way to know about The patient at Owen's facility that Annie pretended to be visiting in the last episode was "Wendy Lemuria", already being visited by "Dan Marino" or whatever Cholo Jonah was called. Lemuria is a hypothetical lost continent, similar to Atlantis, tying in with the doc's whole... thing. It's possible that GRTA McMurphied everyone with the gas in ep 9, or maybe the show's just magical realist as gently caress. Who knows.
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Wife and I just ran through this today, and I thought it was pretty cool. I loved that Netflix didn't feel the need to keep each episode at a set length. If you are dropping all the episodes at once there isn't a reason to do that and I don't know if I could take 45 minutes of extended goofy dream sequences. Emma Stone and Sally Field are great. I agree that the real world of the show is far more interesting than the dreamscapes (although the first one is incredible).
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Sep 30, 2018 01:55
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Was the first one the car trip?
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I finished it earlier. Like the unexplained alternate world. It felt like the show was poking fun of people wanting something more...thought provoking I guess? Not sure how to put it. Like they build up to these moments then but don't make the resolution as fantastical as the situations. I really liked this though. Post script thought are I thought everything before they get in the elevator in episode 9 was funny. Also the subject of his brothers trial was darkly amusing.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Was the first one the car trip? I was thinking the lemur one, which is technically the third, I suppose. Since the first two are just memories, I kind of forgot them a new study bible! fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Just finished the show and I absolutely loved it! The overall look of the show was incredible. But at the same time, I almost felt like this was a portfolio piece for Cary Fukunaga showing off how versatile he is in directing different settings and themes. Having looked him up afterwards, I'm excited to see that he's slated to direct the next Bond film.
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Murderion posted:The patient at Owen's facility that Annie pretended to be visiting in the last episode was "Wendy Lemuria", already being visited by "Dan Marino" or whatever Cholo Jonah was called. Lemuria is a hypothetical lost continent, similar to Atlantis, tying in with the doc's whole... thing. I think that “Wendy Lemuria” is more of a reference to Wendy the lemur.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Yeah I guess it could have been that. I’ll need to rewatch it to check out the background. It’s just that the signage in the building was all in Japanese from what I remember and I don’t think Japanese companies in the US today do that.
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Oct 1, 2018 07:46
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Justin Theroux was loving exquisite in this. Twenty goddamn stars.
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Fried Watermelon posted:When Cholo Jonah started talking about Gnosticism I thought they'd reveal that the base world with the alternative New York would be fake and run by another level of AI The "real world" design was very much "80s vision of 2018" and while it was cool looking, it takes you out of the whole thing at the end because I was expecting that very thing. Why do 6 layers of fantasy alternate worlds and commit to the alternate world being the real world? Like I really thought there would be a sequence at the end where Annie and Owen wake up in the "real machine" in our world, or in our near future. I thought they were going to play with us like the weird end of the US Life On Mars and even the supposed real world of the entire show would be in a simulation. Also the whole thing with the Yoda guy from Japan on the TV and his actual motivations for the experiment/tech and wanting to use it for a "personal problem" went nowhere. But overall I liked it. It was weird and sweet and funny at times ("ANNIE! IT'S ME! OWEN! I'M A HAWK!")
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Astroman posted:Like I really thought there would be a sequence at the end where Annie and Owen wake up in the "real machine" in our world, or in our near future. I thought they were going to play with us like the weird end of the US Life On Mars and even the supposed real world of the entire show would be in a simulation. The ending of the American version of Life on Mars was terrible for that reason. Instead of communicating any viewpoint or trying to make you think about anything it just went "None of that meant anything; it was just some random poo poo a broken computer did. Most of the characters were just simulations and even the protagonist wasn't actually himself so nothing mattered at all to anyone and he pretty much forgot about it and went on with his life." They were clearly so pleased with having come up with an explanation that they didn't bother to think about why the mystery had existed in the first place.
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Hey I just finished episode 6 and something confused me. earlier on, Emma stone was planning to visit her sister who she had the fight with, but it's implied now that she's dead? is this supposed to be ambiguous?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Hey I just finished episode 6 and something confused me. earlier on, Emma stone was planning to visit her sister who she had the fight with, but it's implied now that she's dead? is this supposed to be ambiguous? Did you not watch Episode 2? What do you think happened after the truck hit their car?
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Tiggum posted:The ending of the American version of Life on Mars was terrible for that reason. By design, I think. The show was canceled and I think they filmed an insane finale out of spite. I loved all the weird retrofuture dystopia poo poo and think it’s extremely important to the themes of the story, namely personal isolation and lack of intimacy. Basically everyone in the show is miserable and lonely, and the connections they do have are artificial and unfulfilling. In this setting, they literalize this by having the omnipresent advertising become a guy talking at you, or having a service where actors pretend to be your friend. It’s an efficient shorthand both for the crippling lack of human connection and the capitalist desperation of trying to stay afloat that affect everyone in the story. Nobody has any real friends and everyone’s job is terrible. The technology speaks to similar aspects. It’s sci-fi tech, but the clunky design makes it totally unappealing. It’s not like Black Mirror where everything is a shiny Apple product, it’s all really off-putting from the outset...literally a barrier for communication, that barely works and/or makes life more difficult. If the tech wasn’t so janky, it might have felt less oppressive.
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Zachack posted:Did you not watch Episode 2? What do you think happened after the truck hit their car? I thought maybe that was a false memory. But if not, how did Emma stone survive that? How do we make sense of her episode two plans to go to salt lake?
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:I thought maybe that was a false memory. But if not, how did Emma stone survive that? How do we make sense of her episode two plans to go to salt lake? People survive car accidents and she wanted to go visit her sister's grave c'mon this one's not that tricky
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Oct 2, 2018 13:59
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I viewed it as they never made it to Salt Lake City, so she was wanting to complete the trip in a tribute to her sister and an attempt to put the past behind her. But she couldn't bring herself to do it.
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Phlairdon posted:I viewed it as they never made it to Salt Lake City, so she was wanting to complete the trip in a tribute to her sister and an attempt to put the past behind her. But she couldn't bring herself to do it.
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I feel like this show would be better if the leads had any chemistry... it hasnt gotten any better since Superbad. Jonah had way better chemistry with Jemma than with Emma imo. Not even talking about the sexy kind of chemistry, though that would be nice too. I like science lady a lot though.
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No Wave posted:I feel like this show would be better if the leads had any chemistry... it hasnt gotten any better since Superbad. That did stand out to me that Jonah and Emma had literally zero chemistry whatsoever. The Doctors had a better love tale. I feel like she woulda been sick of Jonah's character halfway to Salt Lake City.
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