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Shneak posted:I'd be 100% fine if he got a guaranteed returnee slot on a future season.  The dude had a vision for the shelter, and successfully instructed his tribemates on how to build it. Sure he was loud and obnoxious, but come on. We've all known a Pat in real life. The kind of person who tries a little too hard when he finds himself in a group of new people, but once you get to know him, can be pretty cool. At least that's the vibe I got from him.
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The Mighty Moltres posted:
The whole cast was better than I expected from the stills, honestly. I can't imagine how lawyer guy and especially bossy newspaper lady can survive long, but I've been surprised before. I also want a season with no idols but seeing how excited people get about them as part of their "Survivor experience" it might be kind of sad. Maybe for a returning players season go straight season1 rules.
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mancalamania posted:ETA: Generally good premiere though. It's a good cast and the more natural scenes and confessionals are a delight coming from Australian Survivor where every sentence spoken is composed of one word each taken from 10 different sentences. How do you figure this is happening? I'm also watching Aussie Survivor and I don't notice anything like this really at all.
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Sep 27, 2018 14:54
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My main issue with Australian Survivor is the music. There is a lot of it and it's kind of bad, or at least it was when I watched the 2016 season. Has that changed?
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Sep 27, 2018 16:19
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Spergatory posted:My main issue with Australian Survivor is the music. There is a lot of it and it's kind of bad, or at least it was when I watched the 2016 season. Has that changed? Have never noticed scenes looking over-edited or spliced though.
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Sharing from "The Hollywood Reporter" in case anyone else is curious what ended up happening with Pat:quote:Pat said he was hospitalized for three days before returning to Ponderosa, the location in Fiji where players are sequestered before and after production begins. Contestants who are voted out before the jury phase of the game eventually embark on a short vacation before returning to the United States; Pat was healthy enough to join his fellow cast members on that trip. He told THR he was back to exercising a week after the accident. Upon returning home, Pat learned he had mild spinal deterioration, common for someone in his line of work as a maintenance manager. The accident may have aggravated his condition.
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Sep 27, 2018 19:36
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The editing seems... a little better for a premiere? Like, we have everyone looking for the idol, and then Dan gets a commercial and says he's already found it. I think, wait, did I miss something, and he retells how he found it. That's alright. Also I was not expecting him of all people to be showmancing. He seems alright though, so right now I'm rooting for him and uh, that girl who doesn't like Natalie... uh, Natalia. Man I'm gonna have to learn all these names again. John is also weirdly captivating for a wrestler with a big ego. Maybe he'll do better than the last famous John on Survivor.
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Sep 27, 2018 20:29
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I loved the confessional with Christian getting the "yahta yahta" time skip. Don't care for the player though. They're really pushing hard for, "Hey remember David Wright? How about Hannah? You remember Hannah? These players are just like them!" Professor Shark posted:What were the slurs that Jessica used online? 
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Sep 27, 2018 22:12
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Alliances on David Tribe according to Pat: The Five Pat Davey Lyrsa Jessica Carl The Nerds Gabby Christian These two blocs were going to target Nick. Again, according to Pat. Not mentioned: Bi and Elizabeth.
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Sep 28, 2018 00:05
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Zesty posted:I loved the confessional with Christian getting the "yahta yahta" time skip. How ironic and classy.
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IcePhoenix posted:How do you not just straight pull him from the game seeing that it's been 90 minute premieres for years
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Sep 28, 2018 02:40
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IcePhoenix posted:How do you not just straight pull him from the game seeing that The fall Survivor premier is 90 minutes followed by the 90 minute Big Brother finale  Also, it seems they likely did pull Pat out of the game effectively right away. Like they didn't even finish taking the tribe to their beach, dude got hurt and they stopped at some random beach location that was not their camp, started some medical work and brought in the helicopter. Like the only delay that might have existed was bringing in Jeff, but even that was probably pretty quick.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:58
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IcePhoenix posted:drat that slide puzzle was easy as poo poo lol I saw it for two seconds and the answer was obvious, if they got to see the possibilities when picking then that was cake
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Sep 28, 2018 03:02
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:The fall Survivor premier is 90 minutes followed by the 90 minute Big Brother finale According to interviews they just turned around and headed back to the challenge site. I'm looking forward to hopefully some of the females busting their chops out on the physical side. John's gonna be a massive wall in challenges and Dan's no slouch, but Bi and Natalia look pretty scrappy. I don't think we'll get a Lydia from Australian Survivor, but aside from Natalie and maybe Jessica, the females look like they can handle themselves.
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Sep 28, 2018 03:25
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That was a better premiere than usual imo because it actually focused on the tribes and not a bunch of gimmicks
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Well, it was one Tribal cycle instead of two AND they didn't have to waste a bunch of time on tribal council(s). So yeah, more time for showing off players in those first 3 days, which is good.
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Sep 28, 2018 06:26
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Zesty posted:I loved the confessional with Christian getting the "yahta yahta" time skip. Disgusting but she would have been about 12 or 13 at the time so hopefully she's grown up. What surprised me was Alison on the Goliath tribe. She looks to be about a late 30's woman and the survivor wiki is telling me she's 28 years old. How is she considered a Goliath? She would just be finished her residency at this point.
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Major Major Major posted:Disgusting but she would have been about 12 or 13 at the time so hopefully she's grown up. 15
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Major Major Major posted:Disgusting but she would have been about 12 or 13 at the time so hopefully she's grown up.
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That's too bad, part of the reason the Davids made such a comeback is Pat was really tossing those puzzle pieces around, usually in these gimmick series the big disparity comes down to strength and he was equalizing that. I agree with the people who said that was one of the more intense evacs ever.
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Sep 28, 2018 09:26
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Yeah Pat may have been a bit... rough... but he was a solid Tank for the David team.
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Sep 28, 2018 12:23
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I feel really bad for Pat, he sounded like such a genuine and funny guy on the Wigler interview. It sounds like he is really keen to try again and Probst sounded pretty positive on the guy as well.
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Overdrift posted:I feel really bad for Pat, he sounded like such a genuine and funny guy on the Wigler interview. It sounds like he is really keen to try again and Probst sounded pretty positive on the guy as well. Yeah he'll be back for some returning losers season
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Sep 28, 2018 17:14
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Major Major Major posted:Disgusting but she would have been about 12 or 13 at the time so hopefully she's grown up. She started off as a lowly middle class daughter of a medical doctor and managed to claw her way up to being a medical doctor
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Sep 28, 2018 17:49
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Yeah I kind of hope they Bobby Jon'd that Pat guy and put him in 38 (If he had healed enough) or will put him in 39. That's right, a Bobby Jon reference in 2018. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 18:46
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The divisional names never make sense, did we learn nothing from Heroes v Hustlers
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Sep 28, 2018 18:52
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I knew Christian in college, and what you are seeing is him; frenetic, nerdy and intuitively good with algorithms. It was very difficulty to play against him in Diplomacy, too. I haven't seen the show in seventeen years so I have no idea to handicap his chances, unless they throw a ton of physical challenges at him.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I knew Christian in college, and what you are seeing is him; frenetic, nerdy and intuitively good with algorithms. It was very difficulty to play against him in Diplomacy, too. I haven't seen the show in seventeen years so I have no idea to handicap his chances, unless they throw a ton of physical challenges at him. There will definitely be physical challenges he'll need to complete in, especially towards the end. It is definitely possible to win without them, but considerably harder
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The Bloop posted:There will definitely be physical challenges he'll need to complete in, especially towards the end. It is definitely possible to win without them, but considerably harder I'm certain he's got the brains to make a deep run, and they don't seem to be setting him up like that CEO on Goliath at the moment. Unless he's become secretly swole in the ten years since I've seen him, the strength challenges might trip him up.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I'm certain he's got the brains to make a deep run, and they don't seem to be setting him up like that CEO on Goliath at the moment. Unless he's become secretly swole in the ten years since I've seen him, the strength challenges might trip him up. From what little I've seen his biggest deficit is going to be social. Making a tiny alliance and being on the wrong side of the numbers and/or just being annoying
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precision posted:The divisional names never make sense, did we learn nothing from Heroes v Hustlers Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers. I agree with your point, the team divisions are arbitrary and inconsistent and primarily set up so Probst can riff on the differences and create conflicts.
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I'm certain he's got the brains to make a deep run, and they don't seem to be setting him up like that CEO on Goliath at the moment. Unless he's become secretly swole in the ten years since I've seen him, the strength challenges might trip him up. I doubt he'll be winning many individual immunity challenges since most of those these days are balance/coordination/endurance based (of the flavor of stand on a tiny pole holding up a ball on a disk for as long as you can), but the rare physical challenge is one he can probably win because those are usually a big obstacle course with a very hard puzzle at the end (like both challenges in the premiere). Of course, he can definitely win the game without ever winning a challenge (I hope that doesn't sound too condescending! I only point that out because you haven't seen the show in 17 years and I don't think that aspect of the meta-game is completely obvious to a newcomer; the challenges in the second half are a method-of-last-resort for staying alive, not something necessary to advance. Two of the last three winners didn't win a single individual immunity challenge, and the third only won 2 at the very end largely on the strength of his puzzle-solving skills).
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mancalamania posted:
I didn't think you were condescending at all, fellow goon. Even after all these years, the endgame still seems to be "Be the least unpopular*"
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drat, that was a bummer of an ending. I can't say I was feeling Pat but I do agree that he seemed like he could have been one of those guys who is just trying too hard and being boarish because of social flaws but once he calmed down would be a cool guy. Of course who knows if the Davids just felt that way because his exit was so tragic and unfair. But drat. A rough way to end your game and the premiere. Otherwise a fun premiere. As usual I can't really remember names or tell many apart but that takes a few episodes. Who is the racist one? The 19 year old or someone I forgot entirely? And the guy who found the idol wasn't the fat cop, right? I feel like this cast has a lot of look alikes for my bad with names and faces problem. And was it just me or did Johnny Nicknames straight up kick a lady in the face? Also I really appreciate the Goliath tribe just full on embracing the "Yeah, we have everything and are the poo poo and are gonna be real rear end condescending." I'm not sure they've read that story. Then again I'm not entirely convinced Jeff has either.
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Jessica (19 year old) was indeed the one with the racist tweets. Dan (idol finding guy) was indeed fat cop.
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Fat Cop was kind of vaguely interesting? Like obviously he's one of those guys still carrying with him the insecurity of when he was fat. So maybe he's humble and not prone to the Goliath arrogance a lot of them seem to have? Or maybe he massively overcompensates to prove what a kick rear end SWAT man he is? Robot Nerd was kind of interesting too. Like he could become unbearable fast but for now he seemed kind of endearing in his nerdiness. That great confessional edit helped him out a lot, as did him being the apparent god of slide puzzles which tends to help early in Survivor. But so far I kind of like him? I could see that wearing out real fast though. Oh yeah, I'm really pleased to see Mike White and Johnny Hollywood end up on the same tribe because now I can definitely get my loveable idiots duo, arrogant jackasses duo, or unexpected blood rivals I was hoping for! Fingers crossed! edit: This man is the reason they sign waivers. That and breaking your back on a boat ride.   STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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The funny thing is that John was trying to wrestle people to slow them down but he ended up last on the mat anyway. Fat Cop probably still has some slight insecurity - people have pointed out that he hasn't gone shirtless yet (and really, you're on a tribe with a professional wrestler), but hey, it's still the first episode. Christian (Robot Nerd) I'm not impressed by, but I've been seriously burnt out on Survivor Nerds for a very long time, all the way back since Max/Shirin from Worlds Apart. Also see: Zeke, Cochran, etc. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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I quite liked the David/Goliath theme as a framing for class divide. Certainly works a lot better than the whole White Collar vs Blue Collar thing. Johnny Nitro straight up dropkicking a woman in the face is my jam, even though it shouldn't be
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ApplesandOranges posted:The funny thing is that John was trying to wrestle people to slow them down but he ended up last on the mat anyway. In fairness to Johnny Tackles a rewatch made it look like Pat started it and was trying to wrestle him down for some reason. Jeff even called it out and Pat tackles Johnny again after that and just couldn't keep ahold of him. Johnny's tackle seemed to be retaliation, hence the poo poo eating grin. The dropkick to the lady's face - while funny - seems to happen by accident because Johnny Parkour is fleeing Pat's grasp and attempts to do a smooth "through the ring ropes" thing and doesn't factor in someone coming from the opposite direction. Here's the larger context of both. I think what was happening was Pat (and Johnny either initially or just in retaliation) decided that it made sense to try and block the other team from getting through and they only really managed to block each other. Also Natalie nearly gets trampled to death. There's a lot going on in those 10 seconds of TV.  
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