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dotchan
Feb 28, 2008

I wanna get a Super Saiyan Mohawk when I grow up! :swoon:
"It's snowing on Mt. Fuji" is a meme possibly started by the Game Grumps (though I'm sure the joke is older than them) that this is a perfectly fine filler for any haiku you want to make (nevermind that it has a whopping 6 syllables, which is either one short or one over the needed number).

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Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

dotchan posted:

"It's snowing on Mt. Fuji" is a meme possibly started by the Game Grumps (though I'm sure the joke is older than them) that this is a perfectly fine filler for any haiku you want to make (nevermind that it has a whopping 6 syllables, which is either one short or one over the needed number).

it's/snow/ing/on/mount/fu/ji is 7 syllables?

1234567890num
Oct 6, 2017

DoubleNegative posted:

Aragog takes a small hit and then punches out Mega Fetus with X-Scissor.

Eh, it's not a Mega Nazi Zombie Baby :mediocre:

Also, Space Mew is cute and all, but is there any way to change it back to its original form or is it stuck in the space form?

dotchan posted:

"It's snowing on Mt. Fuji" is a meme possibly started by the Game Grumps (though I'm sure the joke is older than them) that this is a perfectly fine filler for any haiku you want to make (nevermind that it has a whopping 6 syllables, which is either one short or one over the needed number).

I'm pretty sure that's 7 syllables (unless you count "it's" as "it is" which turns it into 8).

OgretailFood
Oct 9, 2012

Recommended by 10 out of 10 Aragami

Space Mew is adorable. Also it's quite nice seeing a battle against two trainers that doesn't involve fighting twelve pokemon like that cursed fangame.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

OgretailFood posted:

Space Mew is adorable. Also it's quite nice seeing a battle against two trainers that doesn't involve fighting twelve pokemon like that cursed fangame.

12 pokemon? That is such an adorable challenge to overcome. If you can't take on 30 pokemon in a row then you have no right to call yourself a pokemon trainer.

DiggleWrath
Aug 30, 2018

O O
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Kurieg posted:

it's/snow/ing/on/mount/fu/ji is 7 syllables?

Also, "it's snowing on mount Fuji" is always the 3rd line per the game grumps meme , which is supposed to be 5.

I think Yuki's haiku is supposed to read

"I'd wish you luck... But
I don't want to waste my breath.
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji"

Now, why there's an arbitrary game grumps meme here is another question.

Explopyro
Mar 18, 2018

Space Mew is a cute touch, and while I find it odd the way you're meant to get it (who would try that if they didn't already know?), at least it's only cosmetic. Not bad.

If I haven't said it already, thanks for doing this LP. I'll be sorry to see it go, it's a good palate cleanser compared to the other (sickening) fangames and this was definitely well worth showing off. The game's had its bad moments, surely, but overall I'm impressed with this and it looks like an enjoyable experience. I might well consider playing this at some point.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
It really is amazing just how rough the intro is compared to the rest of the game which has been a pleasant surprise.

Black Robe
Sep 12, 2017

Generic Magic User


Hunt11 posted:

It really is amazing just how rough the intro is compared to the rest of the game which has been a pleasant surprise.

It's Victory Road that still baffles me. That seemed like it was copied and pasted from a very different and much worse game.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


It's definitely the bar for which I'll judge all future fan games on though, that's for sure.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Hunt11 posted:

It really is amazing just how rough the intro is compared to the rest of the game which has been a pleasant surprise.

I know. Reborn had me geared up to despise this game, but after it stopped hanging onto the EDGE, it gave me several pleasant surprises. It's still got some fanfiction-style problems, but by fangame standards, it's honestly good. I'd not in any rush to play it myself, but I do like seeing this.

Saladin Rising
Nov 12, 2016

When there is no real hope we must
mint our own. If the coin be
counterfeit it may still be passed.

DoubleNegative posted:



Is it mean to have a mega evolution fighting side by side with a primal reversion? Yeah, probably. Is it fun? You bet your rear end it is.
This remains one of the most fun things about Insurgence. Most of the main series Pokemon games are easy enough that using Mega Evolutions and Legendary Pokemon feels like complete overkill. Insurgence encourages you to pull out all the stops, because the game is hard enough that it will still give you a fight even with Pokemon like Aragog and Arceus on the field.

iospace posted:

It's definitely the bar for which I'll judge all future fan games on though, that's for sure.
I definitely agree with this. Insurgence shows that it's totally possible to make an actually good fangame with unique ideas. I 110% want Delta species Pokemon in the main games, the designs as a whole are great and the idea fits so well that I'm surprised we haven't seen something like it already.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Saladin Rising posted:

This remains one of the most fun things about Insurgence. Most of the main series Pokemon games are easy enough that using Mega Evolutions and Legendary Pokemon feels like complete overkill. Insurgence encourages you to pull out all the stops, because the game is hard enough that it will still give you a fight even with Pokemon like Aragog and Arceus on the field.

I definitely agree with this. Insurgence shows that it's totally possible to make an actually good fangame with unique ideas. I 110% want Delta species Pokemon in the main games, the designs as a whole are great and the idea fits so well that I'm surprised we haven't seen something like it already.

We did in alolan forms. Same thing, different name. That said insurgence did come first.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


FoolyCharged posted:

We did in alolan forms. Same thing, different name. That said insurgence did come first.

Eh, it was more the card game came out with Deltas. Then Insurgence ran with it, then came Alolan forms.

Arguably the first one was TEEEEEEEEEECHNICALLY Shellos and Gastrodon, but that was just cosmetic.

Gameplay wise the Alolan forms pretty much are to introduce type combos that Gen 1 didn't have for the most part.

LiefKatano
Aug 31, 2018

I swear, by my sword and capote, that I will once again prove victorious!!
Minor correction: Spiritomb isn't weak to ghost, since its dark type cancels that out. Its only weakness is fairy.

Other than that, nthing that it's a surprisingly enjoyable game - if not to play through, than certainly at least to read about.

The Golux
Feb 18, 2017

Internet Cephalopod



DiggleWrath posted:

Also, "it's snowing on mount Fuji" is always the 3rd line per the game grumps meme , which is supposed to be 5.

I think Yuki's haiku is supposed to read

"I'd wish you luck... But
I don't want to waste my breath.
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji"

Now, why there's an arbitrary game grumps meme here is another question.

"Snows on Mt. Fuji" would work. But haiku memes.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.

EclecticTastes posted:

I have a little going-away gift for this very nice thread about a surprisingly charming little fangame. See, there's one person I'd never under any circumstance invoke for that other game. But I think Insurgence has earned it.

Wonder Trade to Major Mew
Wonder Trade to Major Mew
Be prepared to get sent to someone new

Wonder Trade to Major Mew
Contacting server, wait a few
Check connection and Arceus be with you

This is Wonder Trade to Major Mew
You've really made the grade
Though you never had a place in DN's team
Now it's time to send your data through a beam

"This is Major Mew to Wonder Trade
I'm exiting my ball
And I'm floating in a most peculiar way
Cyberspace looks very different today

For here
I am sat in a Poke Ball
Deep in a PC
I am just a Mew, and there's nothing I can do

Though I'm beamed halfway across the globe
I'm feeling very still
And I think this packet knows which way to go
Tell Amy I love her very much" She knows

Wonder Trade to Major Mew
The trade's timed out, there's something wrong
Can you hear me, Major Mew?
Can you hear me, Major Mew?
Can you hear me, Major Mew?
Can you "Here, I just found this real cool space suit
I'm back in the box
I am just a Mew, and there's nothing I can't do..."

I'm totally adding this into the update. This rules.

Zakrelo
Dec 19, 2015
Were there any Deltas or new forms that we didnt see in the LP?

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

There is one delta left according to the update.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

I'm so sad this thread will be over soon. It kept me company while I was having trouble sleeping.

Ashsaber
Oct 24, 2010

Deploying Swordbreakers!
College Slice
I'll be honest, because of (gasp) fanfiction I can no longer take Arceus seriously as a plot device or character. After reading an interpretation where it is all powerful and nearly all knowing, having the stated reason for creating Rayquaza as essentially 'I got blindsided by a big meteor once and decided to create a pokemon to keep that from happening again because it annoyed me so much', who notices there is a new type/plate when creating the universe just to shrug and go with it, it gets really hard to see it as a god who would actually listen to a villain.

Hell, it makes me feel more like someone like Reruka summoning it up would end up with him getting dope-slapped by one of the thousand arms of Arceus.

Black Robe
Sep 12, 2017

Generic Magic User


Ashsaber posted:

Hell, it makes me feel more like someone like Reruka summoning it up would end up with him getting dope-slapped by one of the thousand arms of Arceus.

Which is essentially what happened, no? (Poke)God works in mysterious ways.

Chaosfeather
Nov 4, 2008

I laughed pretty hard when I saw the gg haiku joke, being a dork. In all seriousness your LP was fun, informative and got me to play the game myself, which very rarely happens. Thank you for providing the soothing balm to the horrendous acid burns we suffer from reading the Reborn game. This game was better written and, despite some of the lovely endgame stuff like the legendary chases, was actually really fun.

So thanks. And thanks to all those who made cool fan contributions.

Roro
Oct 9, 2012

HOO'S HEAD GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND?

Ashsaber posted:

I'll be honest, because of (gasp) fanfiction I can no longer take Arceus seriously as a plot device or character. After reading an interpretation where it is all powerful and nearly all knowing, having the stated reason for creating Rayquaza as essentially 'I got blindsided by a big meteor once and decided to create a pokemon to keep that from happening again because it annoyed me so much', who notices there is a new type/plate when creating the universe just to shrug and go with it, it gets really hard to see it as a god who would actually listen to a villain.

Hell, it makes me feel more like someone like Reruka summoning it up would end up with him getting dope-slapped by one of the thousand arms of Arceus.

Ashes of the Past?

Ashsaber
Oct 24, 2010

Deploying Swordbreakers!
College Slice

Roro posted:

Ashes of the Past?

Thats the one. Has permanently colored my view of Arceus into dopey god dad.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012
Aw, it's nice to see RHYDON back again after all these updates. God I picked a good name for it. That space form is really cute.

DoubleNegative
Jan 27, 2010

The most virtuous child in the entire world.


If you are interested in stories with happy endings, then you would be better off somewhere else. In this story not only is there no happy ending, but there was no happy beginning, and very few happy things in between.

My name is DoubleNegative and it is my solemn duty to bring to light the sorry ending of Pokemon Insurgence. But you reading this have no such obligation and I would advise all of you to hit the back button and read something much more pleasant instead.



All dumb quotes aside, I would strongly urge everyone reading to consider the LP story over as of the previous update. Let this ending stand in the same light as the Harry Potter epilogue.

Let's start this update off by doing another Legendary roundup. I don't even bother trying to catch these, as a warning.

Once we beat the Elite Four rematch, some sky portals open up while soaring. This particular one is south of Route 15. You can see Genesect's prison next to that Pelipper.







This particular portal leads us to a meadow where Xerneas is hanging out and minding its own business. We'll just leave it alone.



The other sky portal is found next to Deyraan Town. You can see the Mt. Rose Caldera in the background.



This portal leads us to a very high cliff.





Yveltal can be found here. Like with Eikthyrnir before, I don't really want to try and capture Hraesvelgr, so we'll just leave it alone to continue mourning the loss of Saint Shiva.





For the very last time, we're off to Holon. A new legendary has appeared here.



A new sky portal has opened up above the Gaea Core.





Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to present to you...



The last Delta in the game.









Delta Hoopa is pure Flying type. Its only ability is Cloud Nine.

As with regular Hoopa, you can show it to the dude in Amphitrite City to get the Cloud Bottle to get its unleashed form. It seems like it's pretty good, but because it only becomes available at the actual end of the postgame, it's kinda like Mewtwo in RBY. It's a bragging rights prize only.



That's the last pokemon I'll be catching in this LP! It was only fitting that it be the last Delta type too.





While I was in Suntouched City, I randomly decided to look at Jaern's statue. I appreciate that the graffitied version is actually added after he is disgraced.



Let's drop by Dev Island next.



Suzerain is here to greet us.

If you'd like, you can have a chance to battle against some of the main developers and testers that made this game possible. A fair warning though- these battles are intended for postgame and are very, very difficult.



Please, don't come fight us until you're ready!







This is DankRabbit. He's listed on the main Insurgence page as an artist.



He has his own Gateau. Shell Smash + Simple is a nasty combination.





This is MrSinger, the man behind the music.



I don't even know where to begin with this, but I do know that I don't want any of whatever it is.





1ofthe4rocketbros is the wiki admin.



Armored Delta Volcarona, Primal Arceus, Defense Deoxys... fuckin yikes.





LunarDusk is another artist. His picture on the Insurgence main site has him with a tiny Delta Noibat on his shoulder, so that was probably his baby.



So many of the pokemon we used have shown up on these guys' teams for a reason. His Delta Arcanine is basically Glory, just replacing Return with Earthquake.





DemonKnight is listed as an Alpha Tester on the website.



Some of these teams I'm just looking at and saying "gently caress" out loud because... well, gently caress.





Zero_Breaker is another artist.



He leads with a Speed Boost Scolipede with Focus Sash! Oh and it can just Baton Pass on the next turn to give the next one in line a leg up.





Sleepymon12 is the other Alpha Tester on the dev team.



I love the Delta Maractus with four Metronomes on its move list.





Dekuhoofd is the "Online Developer" which means that the game's calling home and online features all work because of him. Also his battle sprite is wielding a banahmmer.



Oh, no biggie. He only leads with a loving Primal Groudon, and then also has a Gale Wings Talonflame and a Flinchakiss just for flavor.





EchoTheThird is the lead artist on Pokemon Insurgence.



They also managed to find a way to make Delta Golem work out.





In order to enter the tower, we have to beat these first nine devs. Once we do, we get the right to challenge Suzerain, the lead developer.





At first glance this team doesn't look nearly as bad. Then you start to notice all the mean little tricks in it. Like Hex and Toxic on a Gengar. Or Focus Energy and a Scope Lens on the Kingdra.

So that's all well and good, but what's the prize for taking on the ultimate challenge in this game?



I've mentioned it several times before, but here it is again. The chance to fight the Lake Spirit Trio. It's a lovely prize, to be honest.









But say for the sake of argument that you do it. That you manage to beat the devs and catch the trio. Say that against all odds you manage to get 920/921 Pokedex completion. If you do so, then this gateway will be open

The RPG Maker map files suggest that there's an abandoned research station inside the gateway.



The plaque on the wall has some text...

There's a notice on the wall. It mentions someone named Amy.



The second floor has some lore and stuff.

The Spire

The SPIRETECH Spire is an underground lab by scientists so their research wouldn't be impeded by the tyrannical rule of Jaern. This particular segment of the lab is focused on astrophysics and monitoring radioactive signals from space. More data will be stored elsewhere in the lab.

The Readings

Recently, our sensors have been picking up consistent and looping radioactive emissions from a point very far away in our solar system. Research is currently being done to find out its location. However, the precision in which the message is looping as well it's emittance location points to it being of sentient origin.

There's also a few scattered consumables, but nothing really worth mentioning.



The third floor continues with the lore books.

Analysis of the Signals

After analyzing the signals we received, they seem to be intelligent in origin. Top cryptoanalyzers have decoded the messages are expressions of peace and trade. It also includes blueprints for a transportation machine and coordinates to what we assume are the broadcast location.

The Project

Recent research using some of the First Augur's Hoopa's DNA has allowed us to make a major breakthrough in portal technology. The signals may be coming from an unidentified object in the Oort cloud just beyond the semimajor axis of Pluto. Portal construction is already underway.

The Results

We were wrong. Project is terminated. Signals are MALEVOLENT. SHUT IT DOWN. Begin wiping of data immediately. Anyb- (The text ends here.)



The fourth floor has the portal room on the left, and more lore over on the right.

The Password

This is a super secret document and should be destroyed immediately. Do NOT just store it on a bookshelf where somebody can read it! The password for the portal device is "chandrasekhar". Do NOT activate it! What we found out there MUST stay out there!

Successfully activating the portal leads us to...



There's absolutely nothing out there but...





This cute little thing. This is UFI. It's Psychic/Electric type. Its ability is Event Horizon (Any Pokemon that contacts this one can't escape). It's basically Arena Trap but only if you make contact.

Its pokedex entry is: An unidentified infantile Pokemon, from beyond the visible universe. It has taken up residence in the Oort Cloud.

Its stats are 100 across the board, with 600BST.



Nanorepair heals for 50% and then raises defense by 1 stage. The heal is apparently currently bugged and does not work.



Now that we've got all that stuff out of the way, let's start winding things down. We're heading to Gaea Town first.



Hey, Amy. It's good to see you again. Listen... it's been one heck of a ride, huh? I heard you beat the Elite Four- for the second time! That's amazing. Congratulations!



I don't want to be confined to this region. I'm not happy here. I want to go challenge leagues. I want to go join Contests. I want to go to Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova, Kalos, and even Alola!



:smith:

That's why I'll be starting over. From scratch. A new team, a new goal, a new purpose. A fresh start! I was going to release all my pokemon before I left, but... Well, I don't think I should release all of them.



Celebi and I are destined to be together, after all! I don't think Celebi would be happy to be caught and used by anyone. That's why, if you'll permit it, I'd like Celebi to travel with you, Amy. Will you do it? Will you let Celebi join you on your adventure?







There's only one nickname that you could give this Celebi.



And now it's time for me to be off, I guess. Hopefully I'll see you again. If you ever decide to leave Torren, let me know! I'll be glad to show you around wherever the winding road leads me.





:smith:

After Nora, there's still one more person to say our farewells to...





Back into the Dream Realm one last time.



With the Elite Four rematch beaten, we can go catch Deoxys way over in the Nightmare Badlands. It's behind that relic song wall I pointed out several updates back. We're not here for that.



We're here to talk to Damian.

Amy. I... I don't really know what to talk to you about anymore. Everything's changed between us, y'know? I guess I'll get right to it, then. Your father is amazing. He's been helping me a lot, helping me figure out what's real, what actually happened.

living, y'know?

There are a lot of weird ethics dillemmas with a world in your head but... I really like it here. I want to help your father and the people living here. I think that's what I've always wanted to do. That's why I got taken in so easily.



I just want to move on. And to do that, I need to let go of the one thing that's kept me full of pride and, well, cockiness ever since I met them.



And, Amy, it would really mean a lot if... Well, if you were the one to take Shaymin off my hands.







It hatched from an egg I was trying to hatch. It's weird, I thought Deltas couldn't hatch from eggs? There must be something in the Day-Care that's causing it...



This means the world to me. Please, stay in touch. I'll be right here. Y'know. Inside your, uh, head.







As a final bug, Damian straight up doesn't give you the last starter egg. There's no fix for it, either. We just don't get to have a Ninja Squirtle.



And so... Pokemon Insurgence ends on a major downer. One of Amy's best friends has decided it would be better to be literally anywhere else, and so she has left the Torren Region altogether, never to return. The other has effectively done the same by leaving this plane of existence, finding it preferable to live in the dream world.

Finally on top of the world, Amy wound up no better than Red in the end... completely alone except for her pokemon.





Thanks for reading, everyone. I'm sorry this had to end in such a fashion, but we all knew that a "dark and mature" game could never end any other way but in tragedy.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Damian please don't try to make Amy's magicant into a living space, there's already enough people hanging out there

Zuzie
Jun 30, 2005

I got this for a Ratatta on GTS.


Dev Island seems a bit silly. I mean, the official games sort of do the same thing, but the unique and outlandish trainer sprites seem, I'm not sure... grandiose?

It seems like a lot of the post-game content seem to be modeled after the bonus events that were included in the games up to Gen 5. Stuff that would be locked behind getting an event item or Pokemon.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

I think you kinda oversold how bad this would be.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



rannum posted:

Damian please don't try to make Amy's magicant into a living space, there's already enough people hanging out there

"Oh, Amy, I think I'm going to stay here in the dream w-"

"Get your pasty rear end out of my brain, loser."

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Thanks for the LP!

rannum
Nov 3, 2012

Waffleman_ posted:

I think you kinda oversold how bad this would be.

When we found the weird pokedex completion reward I was thinking we were in for a a dumb it's all a simulation! twist, and that was going to be the thing he was hyping up

cuz nora & damian leaving was just kind of oh well. Your friends do that some times in the official games, even

Zuzie
Jun 30, 2005

I got this for a Ratatta on GTS.


rannum posted:

cuz nora & damian leaving was just kind of oh well. Your friends do that some times in the official games, even

Try every game since Gen 5: N, AZ, Looker, Zinnia, Lillie and probably others where the game makes you endeared to them only for them to leave the region once their story is wrapped up. That's kind of the fate for all player characters as well in a sense.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Yeah, that ending wasn't really that bad, I feel.

Either way, thanks for the LP! You did a great job with it, and it's awesome finally seeing a good Pokemon fangame!

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

There's also the fact that....honestly I wasn't too attached to Nora or Damien. While the story here was better than Reborn, there were still plenty of times my eyes glazed over.

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Considering that we've already had our real endings I think this was an ok way to finish it up. You're right that not a ton is happening but hey, it's an epilogue.

Anyway, thanks for sharing this. Stuff I'd never play and probably wouldn't even hear about but is surprisingly good is always prime LP fodder, and this was a lot of fun to read.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Greener pastures and all that. :unsmith: Not a terrible outcome for a bunch of kids forced to fight terrorists and whatnot, honestly.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
Thanks so much for showing off this game. It's much better than it has any right to be.

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BisbyWorl
Jan 12, 2019

Knowledge is pain plus observation.


Yeah, I think you overhyped just how bad the ending was. I was expecting it to slam into the levels of edge we had right at the very start.

Anyways, thanks for the LP DN! :toot:

Now we have nothing to distract us from Reborn and Rejuvenation god save our souls.

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