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Sep 26, 2018 21:58
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congratulations to the developers of the spreadsheet program worse than libreoffice
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Sep 27, 2018 04:30
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You can't even invert the colors of the spreadsheet itself, boo
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Sep 27, 2018 06:41
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does it pivot?
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Sep 27, 2018 07:18
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did they come up with any good new numbers
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Sep 27, 2018 07:46
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hifi posted:did they come up with any good new numbers 172,512,043,099,158.005829482. that's a new one for 2018
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Sep 27, 2018 07:53
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Sagebrush posted:172,512,043,099,158.005829482. that's a new one for 2018 typical apple wasting time adding new numbers instead of improving the ones we have
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Sep 27, 2018 18:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVItKzP6IBY
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Sep 27, 2018 18:36
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im usually pretty happy with apple software but numbers is loving terrible. excel for babies.
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Sep 27, 2018 19:15
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Once had someone argue that anything you could do in excel you could do in numbers better. lol.
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Sep 27, 2018 22:42
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you can type the numbers into the boxes, and if youre a power user, you can sum them
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Sep 27, 2018 22:56
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:extremely tony soprano voice: numbers
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Sep 27, 2018 23:02
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Triglav posted:you can type the numbers into the boxes, and if youre a power user, you can sum them dont doxx my workflow
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Sep 27, 2018 23:36
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i hope in numbers 5.3 they add the ability to average them too
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Sep 28, 2018 00:13
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Roosevelt posted:im usually pretty happy with apple software but numbers is loving terrible. excel for babies. weird 'cause when I think excel users I think of the most self-entitled people that need the most pampering and have the worst impulse control
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Sep 28, 2018 14:33
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folks you can easily record, edit, and play audio right in the spreadsheet!
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Sep 28, 2018 17:08
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numbers is actually good. wtf is missing from it
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Sep 28, 2018 18:17
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power botton posted:numbers is actually good. wtf is missing from it i've never used it because i have excel
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Sep 28, 2018 19:20
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power botton posted:numbers is actually good. wtf is missing from it trendiness don't have as many options as excel and it's a lot slower than excel too
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Sep 28, 2018 21:27
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even if numbers had perfect feature parity with excel surely not even the most die-hard apple fan can deny that you run a much higher risk that apple will suddenly eol numbers (or just leave it to languish, which i guess is not far off what is happening) than having microsoft do the same
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Sep 28, 2018 21:39
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:even if numbers had perfect feature parity with excel surely not even the most die-hard apple fan can deny that you run a much higher risk that apple will suddenly eol numbers (or just leave it to languish, which i guess is not far off what is happening) than having microsoft do the same in theory yeah but everything I use spreadsheets for has a super short lifespan on a per-document basis like I had one 35mb excel sheet going for months back when I played eve but now I poo poo out an xlsx (using openpyxl) from a directory full of json and nobody will ever look at it lol
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Sep 28, 2018 22:38
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otoh I’m not at some bank making decisions using unvalidated excel sheets
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Sep 28, 2018 22:39
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Cocoa Crispies posted:trendiness don't have as many options as excel and it's a lot slower than excel too yeah all sorts of graphing and trendline stuff (especially graph formatting) seems to be lovely in numbers. when i tried to use it in college, i was constantly googling for how to do x in numbers or pages. the only thing more aggravating than finding some support.apple.com thread saying "oh, you cant. thats not a feature" is finding a helpful answer that only works two major versions ago, because the feature has been removed.
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Sep 29, 2018 05:52
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Cocoa Crispies posted:otoh I’m not at some bank making decisions using unvalidated excel sheets I prefer to make my bad decisions using thread safe rust
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Cocoa Crispies posted:otoh I’m not at some bank making decisions using unvalidated excel sheets the implication being that the alternative, outsourced java monoliths which the people with a working knowledge of the business can't introspect or diagnose, are more likely to be correct and safe because that's just that ~~programmer magic~~ we get paid the big bucks for 
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Sep 29, 2018 13:13
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:the implication being that the alternative, outsourced java monoliths which the people with a working knowledge of the business can't introspect or diagnose, are more likely to be correct and safe because that's just that ~~programmer magic~~ we get paid the big bucks for tbh I was mostly thinking of like big finance investment bankers, and I’d prefer they made the decision to end their entire industry
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Sep 29, 2018 13:39
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Cocoa Crispies posted:tbh I was mostly thinking of like big finance investment bankers, and I’d prefer they made the decision to end their entire industry this setting is actually part of the origin of my opinions of excel, and similar sort of rad-adjacent software. for lehman i did a fair bit of the reimplementation of basically ad-hoc quant workflows in java, and while it was obviously eventually necessary from both a performance and robustness standpoint, i did come around to being rather humbled with what the quants threw together. there was a setup to pipe realtime data and analytics into excel and they pretty much worked from there
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Sep 29, 2018 13:58
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:this setting is actually part of the origin of my opinions of excel, and similar sort of rad-adjacent software. for lehman i did a fair bit of the reimplementation of basically ad-hoc quant workflows in java, and while it was obviously eventually necessary from both a performance and robustness standpoint, i did come around to being rather humbled with what the quants threw together. there was a setup to pipe realtime data and analytics into excel and they pretty much worked from there yeah spreadsheets are pretty good from an accessibility of programming perspective
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Sep 29, 2018 15:18
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yeah some rear end in a top hat here basically made an entire database front end out of an excel spreadsheet with screens and everything and everyone started using it and holy gently caress am i glad i only need to touch that system very tangentially
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Oct 1, 2018 15:20
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yeah that's really it pro: everyone can write a program that intuitively hooks up to a database con: that program will probably be written by someone who has never maintained a program and has no idea what that entails
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Oct 1, 2018 15:34
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I can’t view your spreadsheet motherfucker not my problem get Office like everyone else. But the Mac version is still monkey model 
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Oct 1, 2018 15:37
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah that's really it unfortunately programmers, while not *quite* in the second class, will often keep having no idea what maintenance is, even when they have had to do it before all these things need to be understood against the background that the thing likely needs to get done. will you volunteer to write and maintain the java system to do the same, or perhaps volunteer to do the task by hand without the excel automation currently employed?
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Oct 1, 2018 15:37
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:unfortunately programmers, while not *quite* in the second class, will often keep having no idea what maintenance is, even when they have had to do it before easy tiger I’m saying it’s a tragedy not a travesty
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Oct 1, 2018 16:11
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graph posted::extremely tony soprano voice: numbers
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Oct 2, 2018 22:21
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openpyxl is nice but i wish it could auto determine excel type when exporting, it dumps everything to text columns by default this is also partially a python problem any time i want to make a sqllite toy program i just open excel
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Oct 2, 2018 22:50
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numbers is very slow on older ios devices. gonna see if it's any better with ios 12
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Oct 15, 2018 06:01
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power botton posted:numbers is actually good. wtf is missing from it it doesn't integrate with the ms office suite and or work with any scripts so it's useless
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Oct 15, 2018 08:33
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Raluek posted:yeah all sorts of graphing and trendline stuff (especially graph formatting) seems to be lovely in numbers. when i tried to use it in college, i was constantly googling for how to do x in numbers or pages. the only thing more aggravating than finding some support.apple.com thread saying "oh, you cant. thats not a feature" is finding a helpful answer that only works two major versions ago, because the feature has been removed. pages is the biggest piece of poo poo software in the world and I use libreoffice.
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pages is great. I use the equation editor for adding in bits of LaTeX all the time, it’s the least bad word application. its more work to make Word and Libreoffice documents not look like poo poo in comparison. numbers is not great tho, usually fall back on libreoffice calc
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