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Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

DariusLikewise posted:

There an outside chance that the Redskins might be good, but I don't know if I trust a 33-year old Adrian Peterson and a 34-year old Alex Smith to go the full 16 games

They're an 8-8/7-9 team that can beat a good team having a bad day.

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Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS

Kalli posted:

yeah, I gotta be honest, I have no idea who the next 3-5 best teams are after the Rams and Chiefs so far.

I think the Rams are a cut above anyone else so far, including the Chiefs.

Jaguars, Patriots, and Saints are probably the rest of the Top 5. First 4 weeks of the season usually looks weird. Looking at the chart below, you probably are going to just be guessing who is playoff bound until about week 8-9, and even then the NFL always seems to schedule a large slate of division games towards the end of the season to keep things interesting. Also we have a bunch of ties to factor in this year, so these numbers are probably off now.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
I'm a longtime apologist and defender of game managers but I can tell you truthfully that Case Keenum's thorough mediocrity offends me.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

CyberPingu posted:

Saints - Defense seems to be an issue and Brees is looking a bit lethargic,

The defense is, well, I’d rather not talk about it...but Brees is on pace for a better year than last year.

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

YOLOsubmarine posted:

The defense is, well, I’d rather not talk about it...but Brees is on pace for a better year than last year.

Yeah im sure he will be fine, he usually starts off the season a bit slow too then kicks into gear later on.

Substandard
Oct 16, 2007

3rd street for life
Looking at that chart makes me really want to see a team go 7-0 then lose out to ruin their 100% chance of making the playoffs.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Substandard posted:

Looking at that chart makes me really want to see a team go 7-0 then lose out to ruin their 100% chance of making the playoffs.

The 1992 chargers who started 0-4 and made the playoffs are truly an inspiration for teams around the league.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin
That's a good chart. I immediately looked for the 11-5 pats, 7-9 Hawks and the 2012 bears who started 7-1 and missed

It's definitely a bit confusing that 54% of 1-0 teams make it and 25% of 0-1 but whatever

mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Oct 2, 2018

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Kull the Conqueror posted:

I'm a longtime apologist and defender of game managers but I can tell you truthfully that Case Keenum's thorough mediocrity offends me.

If he had hit that one touchdown pass to Sanders we wouldn't be talking like this. But yeah he was mostly bad last night with just a few good passes.

Slowpoke!
Feb 12, 2008

ANIME IS FOR ADULTS

mastershakeman posted:

That's a good chart. I immediately looked for the 11-5 pats, 7-9 Hawks and the 2012 bears who started 7-1 and missed

It's definitely a bit confusing that 54% of 1-0 teams make it and 25% of 0-1 but whatever

I think ties and previous playoff formats/fewer teams in the league throw the numbers off a bit. Like as of now, it would be impossible for it to be 54% and 25%.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



mastershakeman posted:

It's definitely a bit confusing that 54% of 1-0 teams make it and 25% of 0-1 but whatever

Only 12 teams make the playoffs, and there's gonna be (almost always) 16 1-0 teams, 54% is roughly 8, and 16 0-1 teams, and a quarter of that is 4.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Slowpoke! posted:

I think ties and previous playoff formats/fewer teams in the league throw the numbers off a bit. Like as of now, it would be impossible for it to be 54% and 25%.

Not really? It's "likelihood to reach the playoffs based on historical trends". 25% of 0-1 teams reach the playoffs, historically. This has no direct effect on the fact that 54% of 1-0 teams made it to the playoffs, historically.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

cardinals still have a 1% chance

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

mastershakeman posted:

That's a good chart. I immediately looked for the 11-5 pats, 7-9 Hawks and the 2012 bears who started 7-1 and missed

It's definitely a bit confusing that 54% of 1-0 teams make it and 25% of 0-1 but whatever

Math, my only weakness. How...did...you...know?!

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

hifi posted:

cardinals still have a 1% chance

we got across midfield so many times last week!

if these trends continue..... heyyyyyyyyy

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

This is the best videogame
I have ever played!

Qwijib0 posted:

if these trends continue..... heyyyyyyyyy


avatar / post combo :discourse:

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

Ben Nevis posted:

It's like 2014 when they got blown out by the Chiefs and everyone was like, "Whelp, Tom is old and dead, it's all over." The only difference is that now we know about the kid kissing.

as a patriots fan it's deeply upsetting to me that tom brady is such a hosed up weirdo.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Kalli posted:

Only 12 teams make the playoffs, and there's gonna be (almost always) 16 1-0 teams, 54% is roughly 8, and 16 0-1 teams, and a quarter of that is 4.

Oh yeah. I'm senile and old , thanks

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Slowpoke! posted:

I think the Rams are a cut above anyone else so far, including the Chiefs.

Jaguars, Patriots, and Saints are probably the rest of the Top 5. First 4 weeks of the season usually looks weird. Looking at the chart below, you probably are going to just be guessing who is playoff bound until about week 8-9, and even then the NFL always seems to schedule a large slate of division games towards the end of the season to keep things interesting. Also we have a bunch of ties to factor in this year, so these numbers are probably off now.



That's a cool chart, but why is each row short one block?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Because it’s playoff chances at that record, there are no chances once the season is complete

Hizawk
Jun 18, 2004

High on the Lions.

Since Tom Brady normalized the behaviour, incest (to include incest pornography) has skyrocketed in popularity. Read my new thesis at football absurdity dot com.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Also because Im assuming its not possible to be a 12-4 team and miss the playoffs but im not doing the math, just laying out the conjecture and hoping somebody else ponies up a million bucks for the proof

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe

ELO Musk posted:

Because it’s playoff chances at that record, there are no chances once the season is complete

There are incidence rates, which would still be interesting.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Barudak posted:

Also because Im assuming its not possible to be a 12-4 team and miss the playoffs but im not doing the math, just laying out the conjecture and hoping somebody else ponies up a million bucks for the proof

It's possible, it just requires too many implausible things to be realistically possible.

It'd like, require virtually every team in a conference to nearly sweep the other for example, here's an example using this year's schedule that results in 4 12-4 teams in the AFC all missing the playoffs:

https://playoffpredictors.com/Football/NFL?L=EwRmrEoBluvGcw6su540MzVyEoRVYkIiU0JRr90lirCb8DCSDkTpFfGOafbtGa1unIkhIVyXVtTzC4QA

1. Chiefs 13-3
2. Bills 13-3
3. Titans 13-3
4. Browns 13-3
5. Patriots 13-3
6. Dolphins 13-3
----------------
7. Broncos 12-4
8. Chargers 12-4
9. Bengals 12-4
10. Jaguars 12-4

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Kalli posted:

It's possible, it just requires too many implausible things to be realistically possible.

It'd like, require virtually every team in a conference to nearly sweep the other for example, here's an example using this year's schedule that results in 4 12-4 teams in the AFC all missing the playoffs:

https://playoffpredictors.com/Football/NFL?L=EwRmrEoBluvGcw6su540MzVyEoRVYkIiU0JRr90lirCb8DCSDkTpFfGOafbtGa1unIkhIVyXVtTzC4QA

1. Chiefs 13-3
2. Bills 13-3
3. Titans 13-3
4. Browns 13-3
5. Patriots 13-3
6. Dolphins 13-3
----------------
7. Broncos 12-4
8. Chargers 12-4
9. Bengals 12-4
10. Jaguars 12-4

Most unrealistic thing about this is the Bills as a #2 seed.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


ELO Musk posted:

Because it’s playoff chances at that record, there are no chances once the season is complete

Ah I get it, makes sense.

rjmccall posted:

There are incidence rates, which would still be interesting.

Yes, this is what I want to know. It would be really interesting, knowing that if you're 8-7 going into the final game of the season you have a 34% chance of making the playoffs vs 6% chance if you went in 7-8, what percentage of 8-8 teams actually get in.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Slowpoke! posted:

I think the Rams are a cut above anyone else so far, including the Chiefs.

Jaguars, Patriots, and Saints are probably the rest of the Top 5. First 4 weeks of the season usually looks weird. Looking at the chart below, you probably are going to just be guessing who is playoff bound until about week 8-9, and even then the NFL always seems to schedule a large slate of division games towards the end of the season to keep things interesting. Also we have a bunch of ties to factor in this year, so these numbers are probably off now.



...someone explain to me the 0 wins but 39% that make playoffs....is that just a tie estimation? Or is it 0 losses and I just don't know how to read a graph?

weird Asian candy
Aug 23, 2005

Ask me about how my football team's success determines my self worth, and how I wish I lived in New Orleans.

Gatts posted:

...someone explain to me the 0 wins but 39% that make playoffs....is that just a tie estimation? Or is it 0 losses and I just don't know how to read a graph?

0-0 has 39% chance of making the playoffs.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Gatts posted:

...someone explain to me the 0 wins but 39% that make playoffs....is that just a tie estimation? Or is it 0 losses and I just don't know how to read a graph?

every team starts off 0-0. 39% of 32 teams gets you 12 playoff teams. so every team (ideally) has a 39% chance of making the playoffs before the season starts

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

If youre having issues the chart %s, the final result it needs to sum up to 12, not 32.

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