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I wonder how many Mexican wrestlers will be in. I'm guessing 3-4
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Let's rock https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1073677707743944704
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I'm expecting a Lucha heavy class with maybe 1-2 from Japan and rest of the world and nobody from America
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Dec 14, 2018 21:49
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I really hope so Everyone on the ballot (except vampiro) deserves to be in
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Dec 14, 2018 22:13
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It's Finkel's year, daddy
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The class this year is loving horseshit Where's the luchadors
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Dec 20, 2018 11:17
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L.A. Park, Jerry Jarrett, Jimmy Hart, Bill Apter, Howard Finkel, Gary Hart and Yuji Nagata make up the 2018 class of the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame.
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Davros1 posted:L.A. Park, Jerry Jarrett, Jimmy Hart, Bill Apter, Howard Finkel, Gary Hart and Yuji Nagata make up the 2018 class of the Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame. Good class
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Listening to WOR and it really makes me happy that Nagata made it in because basically every wrestler who votes voted for him 
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How is Bill Apter more deserving than Kiyoshi Tamura, Blue Panther or Cien Caras who are all now off the ballot
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Smoking Crow posted:How is Bill Apter more deserving than Kiyoshi Tamura, Blue Panther or Cien Caras who are all now off the ballot he's more famous than them
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What is the case for Finkel being in, exactly As a WWE fan, I get it, but he didn't exactly set the world on fire like Michael Buffer
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Smoking Crow posted:How is Bill Apter more deserving than Kiyoshi Tamura, Blue Panther or Cien Caras who are all now off the ballot It's hard to overstate Apter's influence of the American wrestling scene in the 70s and 80s
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Dec 20, 2018 12:51
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Cien Caras was a massive draw over 3 decades and was in the Mexican version of Hogan/Andre in his mask match with Rayo de Jalisco Jr, and Tamura and panther are 2 of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time The hall of fame should always prioritize wrestlers, and no writer should be in before Wade Keller and Dave Meltzer Weasel Dooley has a better argument to be in over Apter. Ted Turner had a bigger influence on wrestling in the 80s, and he's not even on the ballot Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 13:14
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 CIMA. He could have the first wrestling fed on Mars and still not make it in.
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it's time to open the Rowdy Ringsports WOR Hall of Fame
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Smoking Crow posted:Cien Caras was a massive draw over 3 decades and was in the Mexican version of Hogan/Andre in his mask match with Rayo de Jalisco Jr, and Tamura and panther are 2 of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time Turner goes on the ballot next year. Wrestlers are prioritized that's why it has been nearly impossible for non wrestlers to get in.
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Smoking Crow posted:Cien Caras was a massive draw over 3 decades and was in the Mexican version of Hogan/Andre in his mask match with Rayo de Jalisco Jr, and Tamura and panther are 2 of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time If people wanted Cien Caras in, the people who vote in the Mexican wrestling area would have voted for him.
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Dec 20, 2018 13:42
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The first entries into the wrestlehut hall of fame are CM Punk and the term "Release the doves!" as well as getting avatar pics of just an rear end
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Cavauro posted:The first entries into the wrestlehut hall of fame are CM Punk and the term "Release the doves!" as well as getting avatar pics of just an rear end Banjo
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Dec 20, 2018 13:59
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Randaconda posted:If people wanted Cien Caras in, the people who vote in the Mexican wrestling area would have voted for him. He was one vote away from staying on. He got the same percentage as Kenny Omega. It's not his fault that voting is trending younger, and a lot of his big matches happened in a time when lucha libre was banned from television. His matches can't be seen by people who weren't there. Also, you say that they would vote him in, but if that's the case why do people keep finding new ways to put Arn Anderson on the ballot even though he keeps not making the cut? Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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iirc the one problem with Mexico voting is that people who don't actually know Mexican wrestling voting for the one name they know, therefore becoming a voter in that area and effectively serving as a no vote for everyone else.
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NienNunb posted:It's Finkel's year, daddy Shot caller
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:iirc the one problem with Mexico voting is that people who don't actually know Mexican wrestling voting for the one name they know, therefore becoming a voter in that area and effectively serving as a no vote for everyone else. Which confused me, as it did Dave, that Ultimo Guerrero didn't get in this year.
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I don't think CM Punk or Randy Orton deserve to be in the HOF, but I am a little surprised at how low they fared the past few years. I guess CM Punk is out of sight, out of mind and failed spectacularly at MMA. His 2-3 year run at the end of WWE was hot, but he was never on "top" and in retrospect, many of his matches aren't so good. He opened the door for a lot of the smaller indy guys in WWE now, but I think Daniel Bryan gets more credit for kicking the door so hard it exploded (plus his match quality over the entirety of his career blows Punk's away). I wonder how Current Wrestler voters rate him, considering he seems like such a dick and has no friends.
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I have no problems with the inductees and am super glad Nagata got in cause I thought Inokism would keep him out, but boy does the Mexico ballot still need to be cleared out and reformed. Also they probably should get non-wrestlers on their own ballot too
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I don't really have a problem with anybody who gets in pretty much ever. Dave has a pretty good system set up that's about as fair as it could be.
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Randaconda posted:I don't really have a problem with anybody who gets in pretty much ever. Dave has a pretty good system set up that's about as fair as it could be. Still waiting for someone to explain Finkel to me
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EugeneJ posted:Still waiting for someone to explain Finkel to me Considered one of the greatest ring announcers in history and was so good people bitched about the new one for a decade after.
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MassRafTer posted:Considered one of the greatest ring announcers in history Would you agree with me that referees like Tiger Hattori and Earl Hebner should have gone in before Finkel You're setting a precedent for Hall of Famer Jeremy Borash
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EugeneJ posted:Would you agree with me that referees like Tiger Hattori and Earl Hebner should have gone in before Finkel Jimmy Lennon went in with the class of 1997 this isn't new.
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Lid posted:Jimmy Lennon went in with the class of 1997 this isn't new. And they are the only two in.
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Finkel also had a behind the scenes job in the WWF
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Dave mentioned Finkel also did commentary once and it apparently was really good but Vince didn't like his looks so it was nixed
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Lid posted:Which confused me, as it did Dave, that Ultimo Guerrero didn't get in this year. I think it was just a bunch of people who otherwise don't follow Mexican wrestling voting LA Park because of his buzz this year.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Dave mentioned Finkel also did commentary once and it apparently was really good but Vince didn't like his looks so it was nixed  Goddamn it Vince.
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Dave in the observer was going through some notable candidates coming up in the future, including Okada who should be a first ballot guy even if his career ended today, Rush who will go in but I wonder if his MLW run will get him in first ballot and Roman Reigns which will be an interesting case (hopefully he comes back to add more to his case but right now he doesn't have a case)
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Dave in the observer was going through some notable candidates coming up in the future, including Okada who should be a first ballot guy even if his career ended today, Rush who will go in but I wonder if his MLW run will get him in first ballot and Roman Reigns which will be an interesting case (hopefully he comes back to add more to his case but right now he doesn't have a case) Roman may become a Big Daddy situation except rather than booking himself into death he was booked into death and his rise will be connected to the fall of the product. He'll get numbers of support for his work and that as a wrestler he was fine and on top for longer than most wrestlers can ever claim but he'll be viewed by another group as The King of the Ashes.
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Big Daddy is a very British pick for Hall of Fame because he was everywhere despite being awful and not drawing crowds at all and was only put in that position because he was the promoters son, which is pretty much every British person described as a "National Treasure".
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If Kevin Nash isn't the HoF, then neither should Roman Reigns 
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