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Siets posted:So I'm trying to understand the X games and their mechanism of travel and exploration. Sounds like X1-X3 used jump gates that took you to big system bubbles (not unlike EVE Online) that took some time to fly around and explore in. Then in X: Rebirth, they did some weird highway thing instead of the gates? What is the functional difference here? If this one takes after Rebirth then sorta. X1-3 had just space bubbles with pretty backgrounds and gates, Rebirth still technically had the space bubbles but instead of there being a gate in every sector you had a highway system that you could use to visibly move around the system to different hubs, like outer planets, asteroid belts, upper atmosphere of a capital world, things like that, and I think technically you could fly around without the highways but it took a stupidly long time and wouldn't always load places correctly. Then you could take one of the actual jump gates to a different system that did the same thing with different locations. So systems for sure felt larger and more alive in Rebirth, but were functionally much the same as they had been for the last three games. e:fb
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Welp just bought this game and all its expac content including the unreleased terran stuff because I have been jonesing for some X and AP is just dated enough at this point Rip my free time
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Mar 2, 2021 16:42
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who knew that what X really needed as a series was giant axial laser cannons Also I loving love that Terran ships apparently have sails now
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Mar 2, 2021 17:53
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It's a big solar sail for energy generation is my bet I mean it's actually just a giant aesthetically pleasing sail for fashion alone but that's not what the terrans tell people
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Mar 2, 2021 18:02
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OwlFancier posted:The tram line running on the inside is nice too. You see the same class of vessel without any sail deployed so I'm gonna guess it's either something you install or can toggle on and off. Mind you I have no idea how X4 ship systems work on account of having bought it less than an hour ago
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Mar 2, 2021 18:04
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There's mention of *two* terran factions being added in this dlc so I'm thinking maybe things weren't so hunky dory for them after all maybe That or they're reintroducing Aldrin
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Mar 2, 2021 20:44
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Oh right the ATF probably still exists.
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Mar 2, 2021 21:06
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I could have sworn Rebirth was like a century or so post AP, not just a couple decades. Did X4 retcon that? If so that make the Torus getting rebuilt pretty fuckin quick lolTravic posted:And they are probably still pretty piiiiiiiiiiiiiiised. I can't wait for the gate to open back up and the Valhalla to immediately bust into argon space looking for some payback
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Mar 2, 2021 21:11
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OwlFancier posted:That might be a different ship, in X3 the terrans had the Toyko, which was their carrier, and the... other ship that was their large transport and looked almost identical that I forget the name of. And that's the general design of the ship in question. The big patreon logo. Nah it's def the same boat, same launchbay design, same hollow ring command deck, and same escorts as the earlier shot. The ship you're thinking of, while yeah very similar to the Tokyo, didn't have launchbays of any type. Side note, really digging that the Terrans seem to have downscaled the Kyoto as their new... I guess those are M2s?
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Mar 2, 2021 22:20
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OwlFancier posted:Also why did the torus have a "lol decouple all the parts lol" button? To prevent it from tearing itself apart and all falling on earth, ending all life in a giant fiery catastrophe. As it stands it only ended a Lot of life in a giant fiery catastrophe, because of this decoupling protocol. Only the sections that were destroyed and the sections immediately around those ended up being caught in a decaying orbit, all the other sections were able to be jettisoned into stable orbits. Hey guys gently caress the Argon
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Mar 3, 2021 15:19
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Yeah TC and AP had this weird thing where the Terrans were the designated villains but, uh... well that doesn't actually hold up to any scrutiny. You don't react to an attempt to sabotage your murder AI research with the mass murder of millions and massive damage to a planet's biosphere. Actual game question and not DEEP LORE, does X4 have any plots to speak of? I'm probably gonna hold off on installing until the new patch since so much is changing, but I noticed I never see anyone discussing plots of any type. Gonna be sad if there's no PHQ or something to chase. Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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Mar 3, 2021 15:53
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Bring back the hub I am sure it craves microchips once again
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Mar 3, 2021 16:14
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Kha'ak o' clock
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Mar 3, 2021 16:46
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Archonex posted:Apologia The Argon deployed millions of homegrown AI warships into Sol right before the ancients put everyone in time out. You can guess how that turned out for all the colonies and orbitals  It isn't that the Terrans are nice guys here but holy poo poo the Argon are loving monsters and AP trying to paint them as otherwise was really weird. Like you can't got "THE TORUS WAS A LONE WOLF" and then capitalize on what she did by proving the Terrans right and somehow expect to still be the good guy lol
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Mar 5, 2021 19:22
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RBA Starblade posted:lol holy poo poo I had no idea any of that was going on. I knew these games had ridiculously huge backstories that never matter ingame but that should really come up a little more! The X encyclopedia was a wild read lol My favorite part is the Ancients fighting off extra-dimensional invaders who traveled around in mobile, heavily armed star systems. Just a whole rear end Dyson Sphere comin knockin on your matryoshka brain
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Mar 5, 2021 19:26
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Archonex posted:Both sides were extremely genocidal and evil. Show me one example, encyclopedia or otherwise, of the Terrans (or even the ATF, the actual hardliner assholes) committing an act of genocide lol got some BOTH SIDES right here in the X thread
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Mar 5, 2021 20:19
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3 posted:Your gang tag just made something immediately click for me: the Argon are basically just Erusea, right down to overreliance on advanced drone technology that goes rogue because of the Now imagining Saya Kho laughing like an absurd loon as she gets sucked out into space mid-mass murder EDIT: I'd argue that the Belkans/Beryll comparison doesn't hold up though, on account of the Belkans know exactly what they're doing. Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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Mar 5, 2021 20:30
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The Boron let Mahi-Ma out into the universe and caused a microchip shortage the commonwealth never recovered from They too are pure evil
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Mar 5, 2021 20:41
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Archonex posted:More apologia You remember that part in Babylon 5 where Londo is like "how dare the Narns wrong us, they are the aggressors here with their expansionism" and then like five minutes later he's on the bridge of a ship blanketing the narn homeworld in asteroids and killing billions and it finally sets in on him how badly he hosed up? This post made me think of that, not sure why, it is a mystery PS re-detonate President's End
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Mar 5, 2021 23:29
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Archonex posted:
Lol Buddy,
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Mar 6, 2021 01:30
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OwlFancier posted:Terrans rule argons drool, imo. Terrans build torus, invent accelerators, build infrastructure across whole solar system, huge stations, beautiful ships, elegant weaponry. argon does nothing, all they know is make AGI, eat meatsteak cahoona, and lie.
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Mar 6, 2021 02:03
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My favorite part of whatever the gently caress this is is it somehow started from "man everyone in X is dicks but the Argon especially so kinda weird that AP didn't acknowledge that" and now we're at moral relativism RE foreign state interference vs biome killing your homeworld via terrorism Anyway bring back the Hub Egosoft, I wish to connect to Kingdom's End
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Mar 6, 2021 02:06
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Wait are the rebirth systems actually not in 4? That's... an odd choice.
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Mar 6, 2021 02:16
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That's lame, one of the only things I liked about Rebirth was the sector setup outside of those two starter areas. At least they kept the badass new Xenon aesthetic.
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Mar 6, 2021 02:22
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Archonex posted:
Psycho Landlord posted:
Hmmmmm queeb posted:and so we begin, with a trusty E-Wing Now it's been a hot minute since I read those bad star wars books and I have since moved on to other, worser books, but weren't E-Wings extremely not that adjective
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Mar 6, 2021 05:52
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Thom12255 posted:I'm a firm believer that locking the X4 timeline behind super tedious lockbox puzzles is pretty stupid as most of the lore is in there but very few people that play these games actually know it because it's never shown in-game. Hey now You can also buy a giant irl book! Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 6, 2021 |
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Mar 6, 2021 14:57
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Does seeding a bunch of sectors with satellites still slow the game to a crawl or was that optimized?
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Nice, thanks
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Mar 7, 2021 15:13
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Travic posted:Sorry to keep asking questions, but as much as I love this game it's just...baffling. I still haven't played 4 yet but I just want to assure you that you should always ask questions about these games because of the second part of this sentence. X owns. It is also an obtuse nightmare mess of conflicting design decisions and extremely Egosoft ideas about free time.
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Mar 7, 2021 18:59
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Ensure the football fields are walkable, egosoft
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Mar 8, 2021 20:26
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I'm actually pretty disappointed to learn that none of the Rebirth sectors are in 4. Omicron Lyrae in Rebirth was incredible.
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Huh, sailboat was not, in fact, the Tokyo. And there's several permutations of that hull, looks like. Also lol the ATF did get mulched into someone new
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Sounds lore friendly to me
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Drunk in Space posted:Did they resolve their issues with this and Nvidia 30 series cards in the end? Oh no I have a 3070 and was about to start playing this, what is this bug?
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Mar 17, 2021 13:20
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lol what set them off this time
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RBA Starblade posted:Or what that race with "star system sized ships" is up to, there's some real weird stuff in the background These dudes were from another dimension entirely and all the ones that came over here are dead now because the gate builders had to give em what for If you buy into certain egoforums theories the Hub from X3 is actually one of said dudes' ships and not a xenon construction.
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Squiggle posted:gently caress yes the song
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