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I hope they have done something about the mid-game grind where you are travelling the universe over trying to find the specific ships you need and the equipment to outfit them. I always resorted to cheat-scripts to create my trading empire after having saved up enough funds with a couple universe traders to "make it ok to cheat".
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I really hope you don't have to walk around stations to do basic stuff like trading, that would get old real fast.
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Nov 23, 2018 15:45
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Oh my god this game is so loving frustrating. My enjoyment would go up approximately 1000% if the map was usable. As it is right now it is completely covered by huge "menus" or something for each station in the system. I need to zoom in really really far to be able to see anything. Please tell me there is a way to disable these things? Also I picked up some contraband after killing pirates but I can't find any way to dump/eject them because they are crafting ingredients so they don't count as cargo but the police scan detects them and they yell at me to dump my contraband and get angry. Some tutorials are very broken, the 3rd and 4th ones I had to re-load the game to be able to proceed. The 3rd didn't spawn the signal source the first time and for the 4th one the game never spawned a trader inside the station. The game also randomly activates missions that you have inactivated making your target switch and the autopilot is completely hosed, my ship just drifts to the right when activating it, it never goes towards my selected target.
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Nov 30, 2018 20:25
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Pylons posted:In the map, hit "filter settings", and then with "trade filters" selected, hit the power button on the left of the window to turn off the pricing menus. Thank you so much! It was seriously impossible to use the map with that enabled, probably a rare error seeing how I'm playing in 4k on a 65" screen but still... Do I need something for the autpilot to work? When I enable it my ship just turn slightly to the right and the goes straight forward no matter what target I have set.
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Nov 30, 2018 21:28
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Hexenritter posted:Someone apparently mapped all the accessible non-Xenon sectors already. Look further down in the comments, there's another link to a more complete map. Edit: here https://roguey.co.uk/x4/universe/
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Dec 1, 2018 11:35
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Regarding turrets: A dev posted on the Steam discussion boards that turrets do not work. The issue is that they do not update the targeting position of the enemy ship frequent enough due to performance concerns. It is a known issue and the dev said he would "assign someone to it" but seeing how they released the game knowing fully well that turrets don't work at all I don't have high hopes.cheesetriangles posted:Found a station with space fuel distillery and a place buying space fuel for twice as much in the same system. Well thats a nice profit. In what sector?
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Dec 3, 2018 08:27
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I'm a bighuge X2/X3 fan but man X4 is extremely frustrating. Pretty much everything is bugged in some way. Guild missions where you have to repair data leaks do not work, your repair gun destroys them failing the mission. Regular data leak repair missions do work. Missions where you have to find some lost cargo that has 2 lockboxes are bugged. Either there is only 1 box to be found or if you find the second one the missions switches from "Find Lockboxes 1/2" to "Find the lockbox" making it impossible to complete. The autopilot barely works, either it flies straight into a station, asteroid or portal, giving you the message "autopilot epic fail" (??????) or it just disables itself mid-journey, preferably while you are travelling in that huge circle circuit making you do laps around the galaxy until you re-enable the autopilot. Funnily enough getting up from your seat and having the AI captain pilot the ship works really well. The autopilot works if you want to go a short distance within the same sector. The autotraders are also bugged, if they are not straight up losing you money they will fill up with either small amounts of water/energy cells and make long pondering journeys to go at best +/- 0 or just fill up with stuff they can't sell, for example Hull Plates. Turrets are not working (as per a dev post). The combat AI is....bugged, you can kill any ship with any ship if you are in a 1v1 situation given enough time/patience. If you face several enemies you will die from collisions, not by getting hit. Since turrets don't work enemy ships with them are no danger at all, the danger comes from getting suicide rammed by them.
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Dec 3, 2018 10:20
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Chalks posted:I've noticed that the medkit resources are certainly a bit harder to come by, not sure in what way they've nerfed it. Fortunately I've got 4 automated miners set up making me 70k each every 10 mins so I'm not too sad about it. I've read that many people have problems with getting miners to work, specifically the selling of the goods part. Would you mind writing how you made it work, if it is fully automated that is?
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Dec 4, 2018 12:47
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Chalks posted:Humz, I am a complete newbie and I basically just fumbled around and it worked. I remotely bought a medium miner and set its default behaviour to automine silicon. At the time I didn't know if I had to do anything to make it auto sell, but as soon as it fills up it goes off to the nearest station to sell then returns to mining without any further configuration. My pilot has 1 star in automine, what ever effect that has. I can actually help you here, the UI is cut off because it is too large, in the settings there is a "UI Scale" (or something) option where you can scale it down so that it fits your screen. Usually when I play games on my 4k/High DPI screen I have to scale the UI way up but in this game it is perfect at 1.0 so I assume if you play on a non-4k/non High DPI screen you need to scale it down so it will fit. I have seen many people complain about this specific UI element being cut-off so I assume this is the problem.
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Dec 4, 2018 14:19
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Is there any specific sector that is especially good for miners or should I just put them in any field and let them work?
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Dec 9, 2018 11:32
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sandoz posted:I have eight brand new mining vessels that I deployed last night before bed You need to put a satellite by the teladi trading station in Ianamus Zura, that's where all my nividium miners go to sell.
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Dec 10, 2018 22:15
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I bought the blueprints for a Teladi Engine Parts factory thinking it would need Telandiunium but actually needs something called "Refined Metals". I can see that the Refined Goods factories sell this but how can I make my own, I can't find any blueprint for this factory. Does anyone know how to make your own Refined Metals?
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Dec 11, 2018 19:51
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FrickenMoron posted:An Ore Refinery creates Refined Metals. Thanks but I was looking for the blueprint. I found it, it is called "Refined Metals Production" and is only sold by the Holy Order.
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Dec 11, 2018 20:12
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OwlFancier posted:No it's sold by all the baseline faction reps. So TEL, ARG, or PAR will sell them (and apparently HOP). MIN ALI HAT and ANT however, do not, they sell specialist modules. That's weird I couldn't find anything like it at any other faction reps. Do you have to scan them before they become available to buy or something?
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Dec 11, 2018 23:55
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Slickdrac posted:Teladianium is just refined metals, they're interchangable. They require less energy cells to produce, but need more ore. That's what so weird, I read the same thing on reddit but in my game it is not true. I built an engine parts factory (bought it from the Teladi) and according to the logical overview it requires "Refined Metals" yet when I build a Teladinium factory it produces "Teladinium" which according to the logical overview does not satisfy the Refined Metals requirement of the Engine Parts factory. And I can't buy Ore Refinerys anywhere despite being level 20+ with all factions, the only way in my game to produce refined metals is from the Refined Metals factory which only the HOP has for sale. Very strange.
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Dec 12, 2018 11:11
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Popete posted:Hmmm that's what I told them to do, maybe I don't have a big enough satellite network up yet. Probably the lack of satellites, if the miners cant find anywhere to sell they will just sit around like that.
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Dec 12, 2018 22:59
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What is the easiest way of finding a Manager for a new station now? Just build a cheap ship and hope the captain comes with a star in Management?
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Dec 14, 2018 12:11
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Pyromancer posted:You don't need them to have a star in management to start with, just grab any rando crewman from your cargo hold and tell them they're the manager now, they'll skill up in management eventually Oh...I thought the option to assign them as a manager didn't show up unless they already had a star. Just as Auto Trade isn't an option until they have 3 stars in Piloting. Thank you!
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Dec 14, 2018 13:13
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xanif posted:So I built a station that churns out engine parts. I set my freighter to trade for the station and it decided to only take 46 engine parts despite there being 900 available. Ships can only trade point-to-point, they can't just load up and then go and sell to several stations. I hope they fix this in an update, I believe the X3 traders could sell to several systems.
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Dec 15, 2018 16:16
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xanif posted:Ok but every wharf in the game (except for ARG) is out of engine parts. Like...open orders for 1400 parts at multiple stations and my freighter decided "46 seems like a good number." No idea why. It was probably the first/closest trade it could find. It really sucks when you finally buy an L freighter and the first thing it does is go to your megafactory and pick up 20 energy cells...
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Dec 15, 2018 16:26
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xanif posted:Will it eventually stop being dumb af or do I need to do every freighter run manually? I spent 2 hours last night just watching my transport ships move around to understand what they're doing. People have said that setting the default behavior to auto trade works better but for that the pilot needs to have 3 stars in Piloting. If you want to make mad cash just buy mining ships, 2 of each (gas and minerals) bring in good cash to start your empire with.
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Here is a really good station planner: http://www.x4-game.com/#/station-calculator Does anyone know what trading drones on a station does?
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Dec 20, 2018 20:18
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FrickenMoron posted:Oh no, you cant teleport to all stations anymore. RIP godly presence. You can if you have that trade subscription thing.
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Dec 21, 2018 09:39
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Welp finally a reason to buy all of those now It's a really good thing to have when playing an un-modded game where you have to drop a million satellites and keep an eye out for new stations and explore every sector. Now I just sit back and watch the money roll , +20mil per hour on my best station so far. A Field Coils/Claytronics/Engine Parts/Hull Parts factory in Holy Vision brings in crazy money.
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Dec 21, 2018 10:07
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:I have been flooding the world with smart chips and every wharf, shipyard, and equipment dock is still buying 60k+ of them. So I have some cash to play with now. Do claytronics actually sell well? I know every knew station needs thousands of them, but I don't see a huge demand on the trade overlay. Yes Claytronics sell really well, it's my main moneymaker with Field Coils a close second. I'll look into producing smart chips, thanks!
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Dec 21, 2018 11:26
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One weird thing I've noticed is that AI stations lowest price is lower than your minimum price which leads to situations like your station traders picking up intermediate goods even though you produce everything you need yourself because they can buy it cheaper than you can set the max price to.
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Dec 21, 2018 21:25
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Agreed they are awesome. I think you need to register an egosoft account and link it, it's in the main menu under "online features" or something, that should give you the blueprint.
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Dec 22, 2018 13:08
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I've noticed a problem with how the game handles L class fighter ships that are assigned to stations. Regular M and S class fighters protect the station and traders/miners assigned to it but L class ships instead get an order to patrol the sector the station is in. This causes them to attack all ships in that sector that are hostile to the owner of the sector despite you being friends with them. So for example a PAR ships enters HOP space, I have 30 relationship with both but all my ships just beeline for that PAR ship and blow it apart causing me to lose relationship. I also noticed that a trading agreement by itself is not enough to be able to teleport to AI stations, you also need high relationship, I don't know what the limit is but I can teleport to stations where I have 29 rep but not 26.
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Dec 22, 2018 13:40
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staberind posted:Does this apply to station turrets as well? because lol. I don't have turrets on my stations but defense drones do not attack ships you are friendly with. I think it's simply a bug in how the "patrol" behavior functions.
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Ass_Burgerer posted:Should I invest time and money into the freebee PHQ you get from spacefishguy? Or should I save my money and start fresh in an unclaimed system? Supposedly the giant asteroid in the middle fucks with pathfinding for AI ships. I wouldn't bother with it, it's also in a bad location far from any lanes.
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Morphix posted:I'm pretty pretty sure you can't make money off the station trading anything (yet). I mean in theory it's supposed to, but mine has never turned a profit if you factor in building costs. It's constantly needing cash injections. How do you mean? My stations are pulling in mad cash, location is very important though. You want it to be as connected as possible, the best sector I've found so far is Holy Vision, the HOP capital sector. I'm pulling in almost 30 million per hour, they just can't get enough Claytronics, see how fast the money is increasing: 
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Morphix posted:Too be honest I havn't played since 1.3 dropped, but I cheated my way into a station with the entire production chain, and it was constantly needing more money cheats. How that was happening I have no idea, since I produced everything and had like 20 medium ships and 5 or so XL mining/trading supplying it all. I was using the broken alien starting station. The alien station is unfortunately in a very bad location. You want something with many close connections where AI traders can easily "find" you as you will be relying on them to make money. Station assigned traders are 100% retarded and will spend their time selling 20 antimatter cells halfway round the galaxy while AI high-tech traders come and pick up 600 Claytronics like nothing. Make sure you have the large docks as only L ships buy the most expensive goods because they are so large. I can recommend Holy Vision and Second Contact II Flashpoint as good places for a megafactory. I believe you can dismantle your station and move it but I would suggest just starting a new game. To gain money easily in the beginning: Do data leak/satellite repair missions and buy 2 mineral miners. Set them to mine Nividium. Drop a satellite by the Teladi Trading Station in Ianamus Zura IV and get rich. Spamming Silicon and Ore miners is also a fast way. The reason you would want an unmodded game is because you can then use the multiplayer Ventures feature. Your first factory should produce Food Rations and Medical Supplies, the modules are cheap, they produce a lot and everyone needs it. As money starts rolling in you can upgrade the station to add more goods like Engine and Hull parts. Once you are really rich you can go to Claytronics, Field Coils and Smart Chips. I would not bother with traders at all right now, they make absolutely no money in the long run. Edit: Forgot most important and most grindy part: You need to drop a satellite by ever station in every sector for your miners to work properly, I would buy a small ship, fill it with satellites and queue up drop commands on the map, you still need to discover the stations first manually though. Buy the trading subscriptions as soon as you can, they are very good unless you enjoy travelling around and looking for stations yourself. TjyvTompa fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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OwlFancier posted:Specifically humans need food rations. Paranids need Soja Husk and Teladi need Nostrop Oil and these are constantly consumed by any station with a habitat. You may also want to consider building a habitat on your medical supply/food production station appropriate to the species of the food you're producing, because that will give you a flat boost to production efficiency and you're producing what you need to run it. Oh yeah forgot about habitats. Unfortunately the habitats on my first station bugged out and the storage for Nostrop Oil straight up disappeared one day which meant all my workers disappeared and now I can't get any new ones. My other stations work though. Edit again: Don't forget about this page, super good for making stations: http://www.x4-game.com/#/station-calculator You can save loadouts locally or share them, like so: http://www.x4-game.com/#/station-ca...ells_01,count:3 I really wish I could find the last SETA part as this station is about halfway done after 18 real life hours.
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Asproigerosis posted:Bad idea to build one huge fuckoff factory station? No, it's preferred since your traders are so bad. You want one big station where the AI can come and pick everything up.
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Dec 23, 2018 23:49
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Polikarpov posted:Keep in mind that the logistical overview will break if your station has more than 100 manufacturing modules. Not any more, they fixed that bug.
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WebDO posted:X4 goons please help: no matter what I do I can't seem to find pilots with stars so I only have rank zero behaviors available. No matter which ones I try, pilot rank doesn't increase so I can, you know, use them. How do I get my pilots to not be poo poo? You can rank them up by assigning them to mining ships and have them automine and then transfer them to a tradeship once they hit 3 stars. Its a really cumbersome process though. I assign them as traders to my stations and have them rank up that way but it is sloooooow we're talking +72 real life hours to gain a single star. Autotraders really suck though so you are not missing much. TjyvTompa fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 25, 2018 |
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Does anyone else have to constantly baby their autotraders/miners or is my game bugged? Like 50% of my ships are constantly "stuck", either they are empty and do absolutely nothing and have to have their orders reset or they are stuck with a full inventory of either unsold goods or even mined resources which I need to drop, then they start working again. Like I had 0 helium in one of my stations, I take a look at my helium miners and they are ALL just hanging out in space with full inventories of helium. I then have to drop the inventory and they immediately start mining again and supplying my station. I don't have any mods but my save is from the release. Edit: I have satellites around all stations. TjyvTompa fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Jun 11, 2019 |
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Does anyone know how to "spawn" the mission "Hatikvah Trade Revolution" from a launch-save? I've been reading that you need to do this mission to access the new DLC missions but this mission simply isn't in my game. I even opened my save to check all available missions and it's not there. I have +20 relationship with HAT.
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OwlFancier posted:Have you flown to hatikvah's choice? You pick it up from there. Of course, I've been everywhere. I got +700 hours on this save, that's what so annoying, I really don't want to start over. But I also can't understand this because I haven't seen anyone else with this problem. And as I said, I even opened the savefile to see all available missions in the game and that one is simply not there.
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DJ Dizzy posted:If I want to have miners mine whichever resources a station needs, I just assign them to mine for that station, right? The AI will take care of resource selection? Yes, to a point. If your station is constantly full due to AI trades your miners might get stuck with full holds of the same resource and be prevented from mining your other resources....
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