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JBP posted:Who employs a Christmas casual for twelve months? I started working at BCF as a Christmas casual and stayed on for more than a year. I believe the idea was that if you could survive a Christmas rush, the rest of the year was easy.
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Zenithe posted:That kind of implies you were not allowed to ask to go permanent before this? The change is the "reasonable grounds" thing, not the asking. bell jar posted:Lowering the work week from 38 hours to 34, Or at least getting rid of the "reasonable overtime" loophole. My entire industry mandates 40 hours of billable time - and "patterns in the industry" is one of the tests for it being reasonable.
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NPR Journalizard posted:I started working at BCF as a Christmas casual and stayed on for more than a year. I believe the idea was that if you could survive a Christmas rush, the rest of the year was easy. That isn't the retailers complaint. They mention Christmas casuals. If you are at work in Jan, you're no longer a Christmas casual. It is not Christmas.
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bandaid.friend posted:Won't they just stop giving work to casuals who've been there eleven months? Well the next step is allowing casual staff access to wrongful dismissal clauses. Oddly, considering how stacked the FWC has been since Abbott won power, and the recent decisions around terminating EBAs and various other employer-friendly rulings, they seem to be moving in that direction. Honestly, if you can't demonstrate good reason for terminating or reducing a casual's hours to zero while the workload remains (aka spill and fill), there's no real justification to not have some sort of protection there. If employers insist on making everyone casual, then we have to change what that means for the humans who are trying to survive under those conditions.
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Don Dongington posted:Well the next step is allowing casual staff access to wrongful dismissal clauses. Oddly, considering how stacked the FWC has been since Abbott won power, and the recent decisions around terminating EBAs and various other employer-friendly rulings, they seem to be moving in that direction. There are already loads of agreements that mandate casual conversion at set times or percentage of workforce. If you shitcan people at 11 months to avoid that responsibility you will end up in fair work. It should be the same here, but it's going to be a lot of poorly informed/represented people rather than organised workforces with EBAs, so I can't imagine there will be many cases but you never know. e: not that it matters that much anyway, you just ring Toll People and get them to send you casuals that you will never have any responsibility to. JBP fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Oct 2, 2018 |
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JBP posted:There are already loads of agreements that mandate casual conversion at set times or percentage of workforce. If you shitcan people at 11 months to avoid that responsibility you will end up in fair work. It should be the same here, but it's going to be a lot of poorly informed/represented people rather than organised workforces with EBAs, so I can't imagine there will be many cases but you never know. That's true, but I'm going to assume they're less common in the retail sector, where the SDA has been the sole representative for workers for time immemorial. I expect this may start changing under the right conditions - say RAFFWU taking a larger role in bargaining, Sally McManus' ACTU leadership, and a potential reworking or replacement of the FWA to allow unions to bargain from a stronger position.
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Here's how it works: Casual employee has worked in a role for 12 months for consistent hours, and feels justified in being brought on permanently, either in a part-time (according to their shift pattern) or full-time role. Casual employee brings this up to their boss. The boss refuses, citing reasons that don't apply to the employee's situation If the employee has the time, and the money, they apply to FWC to have the situation resolved FWC either rules for or against the employee depending on the time of day/weather outside The employee is quietly let go weeks afterwards
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bell jar posted:Here's how it works: FWC wouldn't arbitrate on this unless the employer agrees to arbitration. It would be mediated with no ruling.
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Regardless of the actual mechanisms of FWC, the employee still ends up without a job at all, 100% of the time. It should be automatic and mandatory, not a "please mister boss may i have stable shifts and sick leave sir, may i??"
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Correct, was just saying it's even worse. Like you need to go through heaps of mediation before a medical panel will convene to assess a rejected work cover claim. It's hosed.
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JBP posted:Who employs a Christmas casual for twelve months? yeah they're trying to draw a really long bow here, maybe their regular casual staff will all suddenly ask for permanency just before Christmas, thus ruining Christmas somehow?
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Coles and Woolies staff can't ask for leave around Xmas anyway coz the SDA sold them out, idk why Colesworths are complaining.
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I think the Christmas retail spending capitalist meltdown was due to the penalty rates for saturday and weeknights after 6pm going from 10% to 25%, not the full time conversion bit. Most stores do 2-4 weeks of 9am-9pm leading up to christmas. Which is still hilariously stupid, mind.
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Laserface posted:I think the Christmas retail spending capitalist meltdown was due to the penalty rates for saturday and weeknights after 6pm going from 10% to 25%, not the full time conversion bit. Most stores do 2-4 weeks of 9am-9pm leading up to christmas. our profits will be slightly less gargantuan 
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froglet posted:Coles and Woolies staff can't ask for leave around Xmas anyway coz the SDA sold them out, idk why Colesworths are complaining. Speaking of which, if you know anyone who works for Coles, they have recently been making a push for permanent staff to go casual to make it easier to downsize soon after they demerge from Wesfarmers. You should never go casual anyway, but if you know anyone in this situation then get on them to not take it
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Laserface posted:I think the Christmas retail spending capitalist meltdown was due to the penalty rates for saturday and weeknights after 6pm going from 10% to 25%, not the full time conversion bit. Most stores do 2-4 weeks of 9am-9pm leading up to christmas. Does the "weekdays after 6" count for all hours after 6, or just those shifts which start after 6? I got hosed over by that sort of bullshit when I was a kid. Most likely it was the boss lying to the staff and wage stealing. But I stole so much poo poo from that job I'm pretty sure I came out ahead.
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Be honest here, how many of you think Scott Morrison will win the next election.
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Anidav posted:Be honest here, how many of you think Scott Morrison will win the next election. I am convinced he won’t win, which is also what I thought about Abbott, Brexit and Trump. I also thought Bush was grandstanding in Iraq and wouldn’t go in when Afghanistan was turning into such a quagmire, so I think I’m finally coming to terms with frequently confusing the improbable for the impossible.
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Anidav posted:Be honest here, how many of you think Scott Morrison will win the next election. I think he has about a 55% shot at it. Barring any further serious infighting or policy fuckups, they might sail clear through to May
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Anidav posted:Be honest here, how many of you think Scott Morrison will win the next election. I don’t. But I was reminded of how I’m in my own lefty bubble this morning at work when some dickhead (member of the public, not a co-worker) used the term “little abo kids” and I was literally speechless. So gently caress knows.
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When the overwhelming reaction to Scomo becoming PM was "Who?", I figured he has a decent shot. The lib voters will probably cool down enough before the election to not protest vote.
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Anidav posted:Be honest here, how many of you think Scott Morrison will win the next election. hi
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Dude McAwesome posted:I don’t. I don't know how anyone can crawl far enough into the bubble to forget that Australians are by and large racist, selfish people.
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drat you guys love guessing the worst timeline will continue.
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Anidav posted:drat you guys love guessing the worst timeline will continue. i haven't been proven wrong yet unfortunately
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Anidav posted:drat you guys love guessing the worst timeline will continue. SCOMO will be +20 on popularity in January because he's extremely similar to Australian political folk hero John Howard.
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hambeet posted:*Crawls back into a bottle* Sucks to be you, guy.
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JBP posted:SCOMO will be +20 on popularity in January because he's extremely similar to Australian political folk hero John Howard. He'll start power walking around Darling Harbour to re-enforce the image.
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He does nothing but talk about sports. This will appeal directly to braindead swing voters
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This will aid Morrison CHANNEL 9 has swung the axe on the NRL Footy Show. Nine has confirmed an initial report inThe Daily Telegraph that network executives have decided the concept will not return in any format in 2019. CULTURE WARS
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JBP posted:Who employs a Christmas casual for twelve months? Always knew Father Christmas was pulling a big tax dodge
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JBP posted:I don't know how anyone can crawl far enough into the bubble to forget that Australians are by and large racist, selfish people. Don’t forget to add sexist to those qualities!
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Colour me the colour I already am (filthy pale) learning that Andy “George Pell’s victims are liars” Bolt is laying into Brett Kavanaugh’s accusers. It’s no news he’s a disgusting gently caress but what a disgusting gently caress. edit: the comments on his blog. swine. loving swine people. snoremac fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Oct 2, 2018 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Always knew Father Christmas was pulling a big tax dodge All those imports he brings into Australia from the North Pole and doesn't pay a cent of GST on them 
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The motherfucking goddamned radio just reminded me the department of home affairs has only existed since December jesus loving christ it feels like arch chancellor Dutton has been head of the secret police for 3 years. A 10 month old monstrosity headed by possibly the worst person in Australia given to him by Turnbull, desperate save his own rear end, and it's already untouchable. Shorten already says he's gonna be bipartisan on security matters which means the liberals are going to control all policy.
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Bill Shorten policy promise to you - we've had Change, but have you tried I Can't Believe it's Not Change?
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