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Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

I want to take a moment to praise RNGsus because I learned that my voice command for waiting a turn actually had me pressing both . and s in sequence because I was raiding a Bailey with my blaze heart golem and I waited the turn right before it blew up and was knocked down to just two HP. I'm sure you all know that I immediately fixed that in voice attack lol

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Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Tea Party Crasher posted:

I want to take a moment to praise RNGsus because I learned that my voice command for waiting a turn actually had me pressing both . and s in sequence because I was raiding a Bailey with my blaze heart golem and I waited the turn right before it blew up and was knocked down to just two HP. I'm sure you all know that I immediately fixed that in voice attack lol

I am enjoying reading your voice command escapades.

EightFlyingCars
Jun 30, 2008


this is going to give us the greatest YASD post of all time. i can't wait

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Another possibly helpful macro: Go0\{13} will bring your character to the staircase to enter Orcish Mines. Replace the 'o' with whatever branch you like, or '0' with a specific staircase.

parthenocarpy fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 20, 2024

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

My deep elf hex slinger's reaction to seeing a poisonous snake on dungeon level 2

Larry Cum Free
Jun 3, 2022

move it or lose it dillweed
Kobold Demonologists on dungeon 5 was a new one for me

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

Sounds like a minmay vault to me. Is that even still a thing, ludicrously OOD monsters in vaults by Minmay that aren't locked by runed doors?

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Can someone help me with this Kobold Enchanter of Wu Jian Council? I don't know how to win with this combo.

Edit: I found Singing Blade. I find myself not that damaging. Might have something to do with my -2 slay ring. I really would like some more +slay.

Okay apparently one misadventure later I won with 5 runes

Annointed fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Mar 29, 2024

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

Decided to play a game in trunk after not playing for quite awhile, all the new spells are cool though there doesn't seem to be a lot of spells that just simply blast a dude from a reasonable distance, though permafrost eruption seemed extremely broken doing high AC piercing undodgable aoe damage. Tried a generic melee ant before this run and died lair-ish and it felt significantly shittier to be melee than in past, while mages have all sorts of fun and effective new toys to play with. Ran into extremely dangerous uniques at the entrance of many of the branches, which I'm assuming was just coincidence.
I will still never forgive them for taking out purple chunks.

Einwand fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Mar 29, 2024

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Merfolk Summoner of Gozag so fun. Distraction with gold and abilittu to just buy everything is so useful. Especially when you can just buy manuals to boost
your magic skills.

That and a copy of Ozocubu's refrigeration meant I can just clear maps with ease while letting my summons in when I need some more muscle. Add in tech like Lee's Rapid Deconstruction to blow up constructs and dispel undead for any liches and the rest is history.

Downside for this run was that I couldn't find a copy of Summon Horrible Things or Dragon's Call.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


I have a 4 rune summoner on level 11 of a Zig but cannot find a loving copy of Dragons Call. I do have castable mid power firestorm though.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Annointed posted:

Can someone help me with this Kobold Enchanter of Wu Jian Council? I don't know how to win with this combo.

Edit: I found Singing Blade. I find myself not that damaging. Might have something to do with my -2 slay ring. I really would like some more +slay.

Okay apparently one misadventure later I won with 5 runes

Serpent Lash should carry a high stealth stabbing Kobold easily. Its a very fun build for anyone else who wants to try it. Rampage helps but isn't required. For those who haven't kept up and don't already know: Kobolds have shadow mut that reduces LOS to 4 or 5. A Kobold worshipping Vehumet can have a lot of fun with hailstorm and flame wave .

Armataur now does hp AND mp regen on rampage. Up to max of seven per turn. Run a warper, its so much fun to blink around and receive the same benefits of ambrosia with no confusion

EightFlyingCars
Jun 30, 2008


parthenocarpy posted:

Serpent Lash should carry a high stealth stabbing Kobold easily. Its a very fun build for anyone else who wants to try it. Rampage helps but isn't required. For those who haven't kept up and don't already know: Kobolds have shadow mut that reduces LOS to 4 or 5. A Kobold worshipping Vehumet can have a lot of fun with hailstorm and flame wave .

get a kobold summoner to a high enough level and they can basically cram half their LOS full of friendlies to run over any poor rear end in a top hat who wanders into the other half

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

EightFlyingCars posted:

get a kobold summoner to a high enough level and they can basically cram half their LOS full of friendlies to run over any poor rear end in a top hat who wanders into the other half

Forget that... I'm going TSO next run. Full LOS holy flame yes please

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

I'm sick and feeling crappy today so I'm doing a basic Minotaur berserker for that sweet sweet power fantasy juice. Also thank you for the plus two antimagic bardiche trog but I'm already kind of loving with this plus four freezing spear

Tea Party Crasher
Sep 3, 2012

Okay on second thought now that I'm in the orcish mines I take that back I'm very appreciative for the anti-magic

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011

Tea Party Crasher posted:

I'm already kind of loving with this plus four freezing spear

Ah, the minorly enchanted freezing/flaming spear… how many times have I died stubbornly holding out on switching away from one? One of crawls hardest lessons.

EightFlyingCars
Jun 30, 2008


Tea Party Crasher posted:

Okay on second thought now that I'm in the orcish mines I take that back I'm very appreciative for the anti-magic

anti-magic is high key one of the best brands in the game. literally laugh right in an orb of fire's face as it keeps trying to malmutate you but trips on a crack in the sidewalk every time

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

I uh. I played Spriggan Enchanter. Game Gave me Jivya. 5 runes later and a Discord and now I win. Idk what is going on feels like I'm on a high note in my dcss career. Haven't felt this good since I won with Felid on Web live proving to all 30 people who plah online that I'm good at videogame.

Btw how to set movement speed to slowest follower? I trying out demonspawn necromancer of kikuu. I was told to use Shift T

Edit: wow demonspawn of kiku is trival. I just casually mow down enemies with simulacrums and infestation and haunt. There is not a single enemy in this game that can bog me down when I have a billion bodies.

Annointed fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Apr 1, 2024

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Annointed posted:

I uh. I played Spriggan Enchanter. Game Gave me Jivya. 5 runes later and a Discord and now I win. Idk what is going on feels like I'm on a high note in my dcss career. Haven't felt this good since I won with Felid on Web live proving to all 30 people who plah online that I'm good at videogame.

Btw how to set movement speed to slowest follower? I trying out demonspawn necromancer of kikuu. I was told to use Shift T

Edit: wow demonspawn of kiku is trival. I just casually mow down enemies with simulacrums and infestation and haunt. There is not a single enemy in this game that can bog me down when I have a billion bodies.

I was hyping Discord on Spriggan a while back. Did you use passwall with it? I mean, abuse passwall with it? I don't even remember which god I used because Discord on a Spriggan just wins the game itself

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

parthenocarpy posted:

I was hyping Discord on Spriggan a while back. Did you use passwall with it? I mean, abuse passwall with it? I don't even remember which god I used because Discord on a Spriggan just wins the game itself

Nah I just stood there waiting for the last one remaining so I can use Yara's Violent Unravelling to irradiate them then bop them.

Anyone got a guide on how to beat tomb as Kikuu? I cleared 5 runes but unsure how to go extended with the extended changed 0.29 onwards.

Annointed fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Apr 2, 2024

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Kiku negates or lessens a lot of the troublesome tomb components like death curses and torment already. I keep fog scrolls up to avoid smites or being surrounded by death scarabs and shatter everything.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

parthenocarpy posted:

Kiku negates or lessens a lot of the troublesome tomb components like death curses and torment already. I keep fog scrolls up to avoid smites or being surrounded by death scarabs and shatter everything.

Well. I was able to somehow get to beating Tomb as my 6th rune. I'll be honest mate 0.29 Extended Hell is brutal. Even with max n+ and undead the stat drain is absolute bollocks to deal with.

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011
For those not aware, CKO will shut down on 4/7. So get in a game or two if you can to send it off, I'll be running everywhere this weekend but if I get some time I'll try to spectate any gooncrawlers.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Okay what the hell is going on? Vehumut is not giving me any spells and the game is deciding it only wants me to have utility spells instead of any things for a blaster caster. How am I supposed to play a caster when the game's best offerings are mystic blast and fulminant prism.

EDIT: Many dead Tengu later I'm just so frustrated. I'm getting pelted by everything and got two shot by Nikola through resist elec.

Annointed fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Apr 14, 2024

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

Demonspawn Blood Saints smoked me with Mahkleb invocations during my nearly invincible Oni Ice Elementalist orb run. Majin-Bo (spellvamp) plus polar vortex kept me at maximum health. For a while I used an unrand cloak that gave noise dampening which is a huge pickup for Qazlal. You still have noise but you aren't pulling half the level every time you go downstairs.

IE is still strong. Frozen Ramparts has gone through like seven nerfs and still smacks so hard. Ice Beast is level three now. You don't get hailstorm anymore but who ever used it? Ramparts is almost always usable and you're by default in a good defensive position if you've set it up properly on top of the fact that it hits enemies next to you and has a larger range than Hailstorm oh yeah it hits every turn with no active channeling.

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

Nikola is using the new version of chain lightning I think, which like most of the level 9s now mostly ignores resistance, and chain lightning specifically does ungodly high damage within like 2 squares.

Been slowly working through my greater Formicid on the trunk server since its been a long while, lots of interesting/powerful new stuff, and plenty of weird "why did this get added" stuff like Ignis. Most of the fun stuff is restricted to mages though.

perfluorosapien
Aug 15, 2015

Oven Wrangler
Finally achieved a goal I set during the last tourney, ascending an Octopode using the Shapeshifting skill.

15 runes with an OpBr of Vehumet. Started with darts and daggers, ended as an octolich with top level fire, earth and air spells.

This was my 82nd octopode and first species win since it was implemented.

https://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/offering/morgue-offering-20240502-130121.txt

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

perfluorosapien posted:

Finally achieved a goal I set during the last tourney, ascending an Octopode using the Shapeshifting skill.

15 runes with an OpBr of Vehumet. Started with darts and daggers, ended as an octolich with top level fire, earth and air spells.

This was my 82nd octopode and first species win since it was implemented.

https://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/offering/morgue-offering-20240502-130121.txt

How did you survive the Hell Penalties and Drain/Stat Drain?

perfluorosapien
Aug 15, 2015

Oven Wrangler

Annointed posted:

How did you survive the Hell Penalties and Drain/Stat Drain?

Handled drain by killing lots of dudes. There was a Tart level that wore me out and forced me to exit hell and re-descend, then I made another mistake and had to bail again. That was brutally draining, so I cleared tomb to recover my stats.

Cocytus - Can't drink potions anyway. rC+++. Prioritize firestorming all seracfall casters and simulacra. Use MCC on Antaeus.

Tartarus - Attempted this one second thinking that being undead would make it fairly easy. No. Tartarus nearly ended my run. One level had a vault where stairs up were on the center of a + layout with a tier 1 fiend on each point. Hard to deal with when reliant on firestorm as there's no good way to target. Using a scroll to reposition was reasonable, but I should have started with blink instead of trying to save one scroll by using tele.

I was terrified of Ereshkigal. Silence negates my whole build. On Tart 7, I very carefully drew away her Tzitzimimeh, and when she seemed alone, I dropped lichform to quaff haste and brilliance, resumed lichform, got aggro, read a blink scroll to get a couple of squares outside her LOS, and started an MCC timer. Next turn nothing. Then she entered LOS. Then she cast silence, but I was just outside the grid. If MCC hadn't popped on the next turn it would've been hamburger time.

Dis - Wore a +2 hat and a +4 prot ring to bring net AC to 0. With a kite shield it wasn't too bad. Shattered war gargoyles immediately on sight because of their metal splinter spray. Firestorm for caustic shrikes. MCC for Dispater. Had to try a couple of times because he'd summon hell sentinels at the last second.

Gehenna - Lack of scrolls means no S-tier escape ability. Had blink, the portal tloc spell, natural smoke clouds, a summoned servitor to swap spots with and swiftness to string together some kind of escape if needed, but it was never needed because I had the right high-level destructive magic for each encounter. Also had a ziggurat in my pocket - I think you can activate that to portal to safety once, but I've never tried it.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

MCC is so crazy good and I swear they aren't done nerfing it. Spell went from targetable instant kill on cast as an ice spell that left a LOS-blocking wall of ice behind, to multiturn air spell that kills the closest target over several versions. They'll add stat drain to it eventually. I can't believe it even survived a day as the original version, let alone getting outside of trunk and finalized as Absolute Zero in .21 and it is so worth going back a few versions to play with it as it was

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

It worth the cost of training for an instant kill spell.

EightFlyingCars
Jun 30, 2008


yeah getting level nine spells reliably castable is really tough unless you go deep into extended

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

Simply worship Vehumet, patron god of "there's not really many other options for direct damage spells", get free wizardry.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

At this point, even after hundreds of wins in dcss I still don't get why play Sif Muna for casters. High invocations investment with no ability to improve spellcasting and book rng makes for not the best god when it comes to killing. I had better luck when I was playing a summoner of gozag because the loot and gold distraction helped keep me and summons alive.

She on par with Lugonu imo in terms of "why ever pick em".

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

Lugonu's pretty good for races with high invocations I think. Banishment also got buffed in trunk to apply malmute to monsters who resist it, but mostly it just lets you remove most high threat enemies from your plane of existence while corrupt can handle a lot of high danger vaults by flooding them with abyss monsters who aren't direct summons so they work out of sight. Self banishing is also a decent immediate panic option if nothing else, and using the abyssal rune as a 3rd rune over vaults 5 can be a significantly more plausible option on some runs.
Sif, is probably better for extended than Vehumet? Lots of exp to get invocations up for much better mp sustain, and the ability to cast any random level 9 spell to assist with situations could be relevant, but then you'd have to change gods and dealing with wrath in extended is generally not a great plan.

Einwand fucked around with this message at 19:34 on May 3, 2024

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
the appeal of Sif Muna seems to be essentially infinite MP once you train invocations. Worse on balance than Vehumet, but has a niche. Vehumet only gives you infinite MP if you're fighting hordes of chaff.

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

With a Demonspawn or another high invo race you have infinite mana and Fire Storm castable by the time you hit lair. Thats why you go Sif Muna. Nice to find Mennas and kill him three turns later with a 100% power MCC with zero air skill

parthenocarpy
Dec 18, 2003

So... Manifold Assault is now level 7 and always hits

I have zero translocation skill and an arc blade. Would be tempting if I wasn't already level 15

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perfluorosapien
Aug 15, 2015

Oven Wrangler

Annointed posted:

At this point, even after hundreds of wins in dcss I still don't get why play Sif Muna for casters. High invocations investment with no ability to improve spellcasting and book rng makes for not the best god when it comes to killing. I had better luck when I was playing a summoner of gozag because the loot and gold distraction helped keep me and summons alive.

She on par with Lugonu imo in terms of "why ever pick em".

Divine Exegesis casts high level spells without training their schools. Maybe Death's Door only needs 5-10 casts over the course of an allrune run and no other necro spells are desired.

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