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Mel Mudkiper posted:you seem to really want it to be wrong but cannot come up with a reason stronger than you want it to be wrong do you ever read the things you argue against or make a guess based on what you think a person might say
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people that say they understand or enjoy books are lying to you, OscarDiggs
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chernobyl kinsman posted:an entire six month long thread based around trying to teach one dude to read like a grownup is overpoweringly depressing to me if it's any consolation the people trying to teach him are also unbearably stupid
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Bilirubin posted:Gotta goonsay you Hieronymus but you didn't quote Crowley as much as paraphrase the Law of Thelema. "Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law. Love is the law; love under will." Thank you, Bilirubin
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OscarDiggs posted:And Gravitys Rainbow is a good book, is it? Because I think the metaphor of the poo poo eating is probably one of those things that will go over my head, just a bit. why do you care
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please never refer to reading books in terms of efficiency again
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viewing literature as a test is legitimately dreadful and i get why people get into that mindset because in their education literature actually is a test but you're trying to put numbers on something that at its best is beyond quantification. gravity's rainbow (or any book at all) isn't graded on a bell curve where only those 3 standard deviations above the mean in book understandingness can get 99.7% of the book, the very experience of reading the book is what you get out from it and as long as you have a single thought while reading it congrats you have had an experience with literature.
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imagine watching the sunset and getting worried that you aren't viewing it from every possible angle, or that you don't fully understand the processes that led to its occurrence
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oscar diggs please read the dao de jing (crowley 'translation') and you will realise the true value of experience
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the crowley dao de jing is just the legge dao de jing with crowleys footnotes and introduction. the intro's really good and the reason i recommend it specifically here is because you can sort of get where he wants you to go without getting too hard into daoist philosophy (but you should do that anyway). it's not really daoism, but it presents an attractive view of experience + is esoteric enough that i think it also works as an example of not 100% understanding, but still being able to take something away from it The very first word "Tao" presented a completely insoluble problem. It had been translated "Reason," the "Way," "TO ON." None of these covey the faintest conception of the Tao. The Tao is "Reason" in this sense, that the substance of things may be in part apprehended as being that necessary relation between the elements of thought which determines the laws of reason. In other words, the only reality is that which compels us to connect the various forms of illusion as we do. It is thus evidently unknowable, and expressible neither by speech nor by silence. All that we can know about it is that there is inherent in it a {5} power (which, however, is not itself) by virtue whereof all beings appear in forms congruous with the nature of necessity. The Tao is also the Way -- in the following sense. Nothing exists except as a relation with other similarly postulated ideas. Nothing can be known in itself, but only as one of the participants in a series of events. Reality is therefore in the motion, not in the things moved. We cannot apprehend anything except as one postulated element of an observed impression of change. We may express this in other terms as follows. Our knowledge of anything is in reality the sum of our observations of its successive movements, that is to say, of its path from event to event. In this sense the Tao may be translated as the Way. It is not a thing in itself in the sense of being an object susceptible of apprehension by sense or mind. It is not the cause of any thing, but the category underlying all existence or event, and therefore true and real as they are illusory, being merely landmarks invented for convenience in describing our experiences. The Tao possesses no power to cause anything to exist or to take place. Yet our experience when analyzed tells {6} us that the only reality of which we may be sure is this path or Way which resumes the whole of our knowledge.
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bring back the theosophy thread!!
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