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Japan 26  Not much changing. AEW shifting slightly. Oscar is holding position.  MIg-31/AEW group is headed east, along with the northern bogeys. Bears appear to be closing in on the straits themselves.   Torpedo! Erm. 20 nm out?  Skunk! That is CMANO slang for surface contact, unknown. The bogeys are all headed to about near it.  Shortly after the remainder of the skunks come into view. 22 knots. They are roughly 120 miles as the crow flies from Iturup.  A torpedo has detonated in the strait.  The convoy is now flanked by MIG's. The A-50 is also inbound.  The bears are sticking fairly close to the strait.  Full snapshot of the skunks.  2 migs in each group.  3 more MIg's from the north.  Near as you can gather the convoy now has the aircraft firmly above it. A bear appears to have dropped another torpedo as well. A few things of note. One, Kobold has Harpoons in range. Two, Jimmy's P-3 is now almost within weapon range of those MIG-31's. They are really fast too. Just saying. At the end of the round the convoy is moving at 20 knots. Approximately 100 miles as the crow flies. Orders by Tuesday! Depending on what happens we may drop to 30 minute turns in the near future.
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Well, then. There they are. Yooper, can I get a full range map? How far is the convoy from Iturup, how far is Chitose from the convoy (and the point due east of Chitose and due south of the convoy, etc.), where's the A-50 and how far can it see, how far our subs need to move to get into Harpoon range, etc. All subs, load all of your harpoons and get ready for a full up time on target launch. You are fully authorized to sprint to get into position. Use a time on target attack--i.e., the sub furthest west launches first, followed by the ones increasingly closer, with Radio Free Kobold's launching last. Allocate one per ship--only one ship in that convoy has anything close to decent missile defenses, and it's not a target ship. There are four scenarios to consider for the full Harpoon strike:
E-767 and currently airborne P-3, you are authorized to begin pulling back, as needed. I'd advise launching the AShM P-3s at the end of the coming turn (0755 or so), but keeping them well south of the convoy. Launch our currently available Eagle now, and launch the rest as soon as them become available. As soon as the next two Eagles come up (~0855), SCRAMBLE THE PHANTOMS. Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Dec 31, 2018 |
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F-15j Squadron #1 All fighters are assigned to escort the Phantoms.
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 I've used the scale and some paint fuckery to estimate the convoy's track. We know their speed is 20 knots, and I'm estimating their course as 220. Each white line is about 22nm long, +/-10%. From this we can see their estimated positions in the next few hours, as well as their closest point of approach to me in about two hours. I'll need to move a little fast in order to get torpedoes into play, but considering this is endgame and I'm in just about the best position possible that's a risk I'm willing to take, especially since we're going to be making our big move at the same time. HIJMS Kobold, make course 310 at speed 10 knots, maintain depth WRAs: Hold fire unless specified by contingency Contingencies: If a torpedo is targeting me (defined as within 10nm and holding steady on an intercept course), immediately launch harpoons at the skunks, one per target. Alright ghosts, let's get galloping.
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Thanks for the map, Kobold! Do me a favor, please, and add a line extending 80 to 100 nm from Burevestnik air base, please? That's the assumed range of their SAMs, and I'd rather get them before they come under that circle.
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As requested, estimated SAM ranges from the relevant airbase. 80nm bubble in orange, 100nm bubble in yellow. Aside from me there's only one sub that could possibly get into torpedo range.  This guy right here. Pretty sure that's Oscar. I'm seeing two options. The first is continuing on due south, course 180; best case scenario there has you needing to cover about 25-30nm to put your torpedo bubble all over the northern half of the island; you'd need to spend about an hour, maybe 1.5 or 2 hours at 10 knots in order to make up distance, then you'd be good to drop to 5 knots creep the rest of the way. Problem with that is you'd be coming into range just as the convoy enters the goal area even in the best case, so it's a close shave. The second, pictured above, is ambushing them right as they come around the point of the island. To do that you'd need to make course 150 at speed 10 knots for the next three hours, with torpedo range indicated in orange at the end of that. That'll allow you to hit them right as the convoy comes around the point of the island, but you'll need to maintain cruising speed, in shallow waters, with an alerted foe, in their active search area, who's had plenty of time to poo poo sonobuoys everywhere so, uh. Heavy risk, but the prize. Radio Free Kobold fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Dec 31, 2018 |
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Once either side goes offensive/raid detected we'll go down to 30 minute turns. Depending on what's happening we may go to even shorter turns. To prevent issues I'm not going to micromanage combat aircraft. This holds for both sides. There's going to be too much going on for me to control everything on both sides and not gently caress it up.
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Yooper posted:Once either side goes offensive/raid detected we'll go down to 30 minute turns. Depending on what's happening we may go to even shorter turns. Understandable, but man, for something like this, it really shows that CMANO was not designed for multiplayer. We'll just have to space things out so that the Eagles arrive on the scene 2 minutes before the Phantoms or something.
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Davin Valkri posted:Understandable, but man, for something like this, it really shows that CMANO was not designed for multiplayer. We'll just have to space things out so that the Eagles arrive on the scene 2 minutes before the Phantoms or something. We'll make it work. I just don't want to get into a "Now Plane X drops to 10,000 ft, while Plane Y goes to 12,000 ft, except if Plane W encounters turbulence then X and Y divert to route C, while the secondary flight now staggers at 100 ft intervals..." Once the other thread opens up you'll see what I'm talking about, ie, me potentially loving up complex orders. It's totally OK to go "Path to point A, then attack along point B."
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being able to set speeds and dictate timings means we can stagger flights, and that's pretty easy from a management standpoint. just put together a timetable; at t=0:00 escort takes off, five minutes later strike takes off, both route to holding point. once at holding point, escort moves in to sweep then, ten minutes later, strike moves in to attack. easy.
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Time to snap and weave, y'all. E-767 (Flight 1) - Green is to pull back to the coordinates listed at flank speed and then resume previous speed. I want a second E-767 (Flight 2) - Red is to depart and take up the patrol route I've listed using the previous specifications - altitude, speed, etc. Get me air cover on Red ASAP and something between Green flight's new coordinates and it's original location as well, if you can spare the planes. Keep the third E-767 on standby to depart at a moment's notice.
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We don't have a 3rd E-767 on standby, I don't think--it's still ~10 hours or so on maintenance. Also the Green route is probably safe, but the Red one is vulnerable--I'd advise you to reconsider, please!
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Well, how badly do we need an AEW on top of the convoy?
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Taintrunner posted:Well, how badly do we need an AEW on top of the convoy? It'd be helpful, but I'd consider putting the AEW East, not North. Remember that the AEW has quite a bit of range on its radar--it doesn't need to be anywhere that close to track them!
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All Bac Pack subs - dive below the layer. Speed 10 knots. Every tube but one with Harpoons. RV at the black seamount just North of the objective island.
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I want to go somehting like this,  , at around 10 knots for this round, slowing back down to 5 after an hour.
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Japan 27  As it stands the convoy is in sight and the AEW is going to pull back to Hokkaido. Jimmy had no orders otherwise so his unit remains in position. The subs are going to make for better grounds. Beyond that it'll be quiet as the Eagles re-arm.  You've got two hours until a group of 4 is ready with another two hours until 4 more are ready. All Phantoms are a go as well as 5 of the P-3's, each with 4 ASM's. The convoy, at best speed, is 4 hours from Iturup landing.  Two groups of MIG's are making speed for Iturup / P-3 / AEW.  Bogey up from Iturup! I'm diverting Jimmy to the south.  The MIG-29SMT closes with Jimmy and launches two missiles!  The first missile misses but the second connects... with the cockpit. The P-3 is lost. The 767 is going to head closer to cover for the moment.  The MIG is closing on the 767!  One of the Bears has detached itself from the strait and is hunting near Kobold. I'm going to drop his speed to creep.  The MIG-29 heads away from the 767. I'm going to keep it over the airbase until the end of this order phase.  Meanwhile the covering air assets have shifted position significantly.  Kobold starts picking up ID on the incoming convoy.  Torpedo! Per orders Kobold will race to firing depth and loose his Harpoons!  300 meters and closing! It's going to be a tough shot. Kobold is at -823 ft and rising.  Torpedo misses!  I literally never see torpedos spoofed. Ever.  Harpoons away! I now set Kobold back to max depth, and will try to evade.  RIP Kobold. But his harpoons fly on. Unfortunately with no units nearby we have no idea as to the effect. Now we'll go with 30 minute turns. I let this one go a bit long to get through the harpoon event. Orders by Friday!
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Nuts! Not the most auspicious start but we've got to press on. Stairmaster, request you consider bringing up your Eagle in case they do that again. No other immediate changes. Yooper, where are our subs relative to the convoy location? Are they in Harpoon range yet?
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Davin Valkri posted:Yooper, where are our subs relative to the convoy location? Are they in Harpoon range yet?  Oscar is at max range (maybe), neither of Bacs are in range yet.
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That Bear(?) is quite closeish. Same direction, but back down to 5 knots. If I get spotted, try to throw all my harpoons as a last desperate gesture.
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I'll wait to launch my P3s until the convoy gets closer to give me a better alpha strike option.
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Jimmy4400nav posted:I'll wait to launch my P3s until the convoy gets closer to give me a better alpha strike option. I think we should all arrive at the same time and overwhelm the Migs since we only potentially have 5 F-15's
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Jimmy4400nav posted:I'll wait to launch my P3s until the convoy gets closer to give me a better alpha strike option. Double Post
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Japan 28  Oscar is slowing while Bac is moving into the area from the north. The AEW 767 is hanging over SAM cover at the moment.  As far as Eagles, in 1.5 hours you'll have 4. If you wait 3.5 hours you'll have a total of 10 Eagles. Given current speed, if they don't slow, the convoy will reach Iturup in 4 hours. Chitose to Iturup is 350nm. At max afterburner you're looking at 20 minutes to target area. It'll be cutting it close. The P-3's will need an hour to go the same distance. The F-4's will need 20 minutes at max afterburner. Should you guys want more details on strike planning please let me know.  Current location of the Russia air assets. The convoy has been out of radar range for 30 minutes.  Two slow moving bogeys are clipping in-and-out of radar coverage past the A-50. Same with some Bears over the strait.  At the end of the round you detect two more MIG-31's coming from the north. Beyond that you have 6 MIg's on station along with an A-50. Beyond that in the straits are several Bears, they pop in and out of coverage so it's hard to get a fix. Oscar is nearest to the strait, while Bac's pair are closing in. First two Eagles will be ready in 45 minutes, next two in 1 hr. Following 6 eagles in 2:50. Let me know if you guys need any info. Orders by Tuesday!
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Just wanted to check on the status of the P-3's I think I should have 5 ready to go with ASM armament, but wanted to check on the other's
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F-4's waiting on a few more Eagles. Hold steady... hooooooold.... I'd also like to have eyes on the convoy once more, if anyone wants to be bold.
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So just double checking should I launch the P-3's now or hold another half hour?
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Jimmy4400nav posted:So just double checking should I launch the P-3's now or hold another half hour? I think it's okay to wait another half hour. Launch simultaneously with the first Eagles at the latest is what I'd suggest.
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Davin Valkri posted:I think it's okay to wait another half hour. Launch simultaneously with the first Eagles at the latest is what I'd suggest. Roger, will wait another half hour before launch!
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F-15 Squadron #2 standby until the last 2 planes will be ready for a Launch of 4 then launch with the F-4's and escort them to their strike (preferably just ahead of them)
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Keep at it I guess. If I get to close to moving around the peninsula before the convoy gets in range, come to a stop. If I get made, launch everything.
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With the MIGs pulling back, what's the possibilities of me taking the E-767 far east and keeping the convoy marked?
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Taintrunner posted:With the MIGs pulling back, what's the possibilities of me taking the E-767 far east and keeping the convoy marked? Feel free to do so. Consider this commander approval.
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Japan 29  This is the current area of interest. The AEW is holding over Chitose but will slide slightly to the east. Beyond that it is 45 minutes till first Eagles ready, 1 hr till you have 4 ready. 5 P-3's are ready as are all of Val's F-4's.  There is a screen of MIG-31's and a sole MIG-29 before the A-50. There is a total count of 9.  As Taint slides slightly to the east you get better resolution. The unknowns are moving at 250 kts, 36000 ft. Further out you pick up 2 more MIG-31's inbound. It looks like 11 total. The MIG's are mighty close (130 nm) so I'm pushing the 767 back a bit pending clearer orders.  By the end of the round not much has changed. 11 MIg's are on station, the A-50 moved back slightly to the ??? aircraft at 250 knots. Beyond that the convoy still approaches.  Beyond those 4 another 2:20 gets you 6 more. Given best speed of the convoy, assuming uncertainty circles as the front edge, they are 62nm from the landing zone as the crow flies or roughly 3 hours from landing. Chitose is 350 nm from target zone so at max Eagle speed it will take 20 minutes or so. Worst case, you launch in 2:20, arrive in 2:40, and convoy is still 20 minutes from landing zone. Other option is go earlier with fewer escorts (4). Oscar is approximately 4 hours at current speed to his destination. Orders by Thursday!
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