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Maybe as a follow-up scenario do a Russian invasion of Hokkaido?
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wedgekree posted:I guess the IJN being more conservative for the moment actually plays well if they keep up a track on the Akula and hold thier forces back rather than rushing in given the Russians have good fighter availability and Bears up. It seems at least they're starting to adjust some - playing a bit more conservatively and not being as aggressive as they were early game. Guess it depends on how/if they get a good read on the convoy or at lesat an estimate and what shape they're in when they go after it 73 years too late there bud
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Mycroft Holmes posted:73 years too late there bud True, but whenever I say Japanese Self-Defense Force I think of the guys Godzilla disintegrates each movie.
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I don't think so. Nor do the Japanese know there are two more A-50's.
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Dec 12, 2018 00:46
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Soo, was this a good trade or not given the tactical circumstances and the force remnants both sides have left?
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Dec 12, 2018 04:26
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Id say 2:1 foxbat:eagles is probably about even as things stand. Though maybe tactical victory for the ruskis since they've driven off the 767 without the convoy being detected.
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Dec 17, 2018 01:34
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sincx posted:What're the odds of Kobald surviving? Depending on his ROE, quite good. If he can make it to the hump undetected, lie on the bottom, and wait, it's quite likely the Russian subs will not detect him. Then, if he's patient enough, he might be able to throw harpoons into that convoy. However my guess is he'll go hunting subs instead of hunting ferries. The other unknown is a Bear getting a MAD hit, then it's kind of game over. He's heading to a unique spot in the area, most of the AOO is abyssal.
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The Japanese have figured out the Russian plan. Going to be interesting to see if the Russians can pull this off.
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Dec 17, 2018 02:31
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Quite funny that the two Russian subs sprinting about seems to have revealed the convoy path to the Japanese despite them both managing to not eat a torp.
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Dec 18, 2018 17:13
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Something that may be interesting to thread watchers, IRL Japan is upping their F-35 buy: https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2018/12/18/with-massive-f-35-increase-japan-is-now-biggest-international-buyer/
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jerman999 posted:Something that may be interesting to thread watchers, IRL Japan is upping their F-35 buy: https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2018/12/18/with-massive-f-35-increase-japan-is-now-biggest-international-buyer/ Russia put 3500 troops on the Kurils, which is fun.
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Hav posted:Russia put 3500 troops on the Kurils, which is fun. probably not for the soldiers
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So Russia is gonna have to deal with a massed F-4/F-15 strike *and* a Harpoon missile strike on a mostly defenseless convoy. Gonna be tough to defend against all that if the Japanese can coordinate.
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This was always going to be a tough mission for the Russians. I don't think there was ever a realistic chance of getting the convoy in undetected, so unless the Russians held back the convoy and dedicated themselves to defanging Japan first, a pucker moment like this was bound to happen.
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So presuming the Japanese havethe timing done well, are they going to be going for saturation and trying to just hammer as many missiles/harpoons on the convoy as possible? And was the random moving of the Patriot battery they did worth anything at -all- now its setup?
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Jan 1, 2019 07:19
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wedgekree posted:So presuming the Japanese havethe timing done well, are they going to be going for saturation and trying to just hammer as many missiles/harpoons on the convoy as possible? It might be a nasty surprise for any Russian aircraft heading that direction, but the contingency it was moved for hasn't happened.
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wedgekree posted:So presuming the Japanese havethe timing done well, are they going to be going for saturation and trying to just hammer as many missiles/harpoons on the convoy as possible? Well, it was supposed to protect the smouldering remains of the radar installations that got suicided very early on, because it’s previous location was unlikely to bring it into play. Single harpoon per ship might not be good enough.
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Jan 1, 2019 16:52
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They should have put the patriots in the NE, not the NW. At least then it could provide cover for their AWACs. It's basically going to swing on how many eagles the Japanese can get up, I think currently they actually have only one eagle ready? They will need at least 4-6 to have a solid chance for the phantom strike to get through, and with their extended maintenance cycles that might just not happen.
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<starts to bite nails> We should start considering a soundtrack for the last stages. Obviously ‘flight of the valkyries’. ‘Big in Japan’ by Alphaville.
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Jan 9, 2019 03:21
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The Mars part of the Symphony of the planets.
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So basically th Russians are going to try and turtle and setup as much of a CAP as they can and the Japanese are going for a coordinated alpha strike while trying to use thier planes/subs already up as spotters? I think?
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If they're smart, they'll saturate the convoy's defences by launching their harpoons as the strike goes in.
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They have uh, two subs with harpoons, five p3 with some sort of antiship missiles and the phantoms. If they can coordinate a time-on-target attack like they want and the CAP doesn't wipe their aircraft they can probably saturate the defenses and then some. It looks to me like four eagles is all they have with a few more coming back online basically as the convoy arrives so they could theoretically be later arrivals to the fight. It'll be tight. Actually from another look the constant reorganisation of the convoy is really dragging down the convoys average speed so they can probably afford to wait which will give them enough eagles to sweep the skies clear. Saros fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jan 9, 2019 |
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If the Japanese decide to really go balls to the wall and wait for the second batch of eagles to be ready they should be able to sweep the skies quite easily, albeit with heavy losses. As it is it looks like they are going to blink and launch with what they have though, which will be much, much closer. 10 eagles would clown over the Russians, but 4 will be, exciting. Pharnakes fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jan 9, 2019 |
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Regardless the outcome, this has been fun to watch as an observer. If this isn’t too onerous I hope you can cobble together another scenario.
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It's always a sign of good scenario design when it comes down to the wire in a natural fashion.
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Are the Japanese going to attack the convoy in time? This is going to be a nail biting finish
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I’m glad you didn’t escalate! I wonder if the Japanese subs will get close enough to trip the sonobuoy line.
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It'll be close, but they should launch in time. Depending on Oscars path it'll be close. So far the buoys haven't picked up poo poo.
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sincx fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Mar 23, 2021 |
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Jan 13, 2019 08:58
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Take heavy losses but win handily is my prediction.
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i do appreciate the effort you make with the custom headers yooper they are consistently very good
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V. Illych L. posted:i do appreciate the effort you make with the custom headers yooper Thanks! It's just a GIS and a guess at what the round may hold. Final Round Depending on the teams this coming round may be the last. Once everyone is locked in to a mission plan I'll run it through to completion. The Russians are roughly 1:09 from beach landing. If any combat asset still survives I'll judge and see,
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It does seem like mutual annihilation is very much a possibility.
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Pharnakes posted:It does seem like mutual annihilation is very much a possibility. Which would be a victory for Japan, at least as far as the scenario is concerned.
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Loxbourne posted:Which would be a victory for Japan, at least as far as the scenario is concerned. Victory conditions so long as the Russians can't land enough forces to reiforce the island that counts as a win for the IJN. How the future 'campaign' counts for them with all the maulings they've taken is another matter entirely.
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Outta curiosity, is this taking place in the same universe as a certain group of Hayard-Gunes?
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