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Mar 17, 2024 22:09
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imagine getting hired to type in poo poo like "Superhero, blue and silver costume, big boobs. No bigger. Are you even trying?" for like $25 an hour and still not getting paid.
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Mar 18, 2024 22:04
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I'm content with prompt jockeys not getting paid.
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Mar 18, 2024 23:25
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Valiant graduating from ripping artists off 1 at a time to ripping off all of them, all the time.
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Mar 19, 2024 00:06
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Fairly sure the Alex guy is a traditional artist. Feel free to correct me if otherwise. The company is known for not paying talent. Not the first time it's been said, been happening long before AI.
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Mar 19, 2024 00:32
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Alex Garner is a real artist, yes
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Mar 19, 2024 00:35
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Anora posted:imagine getting hired to type in poo poo like "Superhero, blue and silver costume, big boobs. No bigger. Are you even trying?" for like $25 an hour and still not getting paid. disposablewords posted:I'm content with prompt jockeys not getting paid. Garner is a real artist there, friends. It was meant to draw attention to Valiant not paying people.
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Mar 19, 2024 00:51
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Dawgstar posted:Garner is a real artist there, friends. It was meant to draw attention to Valiant not paying people. Apologies for being unclear, I meant a hypothetical AI "artist" who'd probably also not be getting paid if Valiant's refusing to pay for actual work.
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Mar 19, 2024 01:15
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I was not making fun of Garner, just AI artists in general
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Mar 21, 2024 13:58
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Ed Piskor's apparently the kind of dude who would try to groom a teen: https://bsky.app/profile/hulkhoquinn.bsky.social/post/3kofburwfnt2r
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Mar 24, 2024 01:04
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fritz posted:Ed Piskor's apparently the kind of dude who would try to groom a teen: https://bsky.app/profile/hulkhoquinn.bsky.social/post/3kofburwfnt2r the guy who only shows his face on camera if he's wearing raybans so you can't see his eyes??? that guy is a creep?????????
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Mar 24, 2024 02:32
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Google says that Pisker’s a youtuber. Anything else about him I should know?
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Mar 24, 2024 03:50
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thetoughestbean posted:Google says that Pisker’s a youtuber. Anything else about him I should know? indie comix guy, made Hip Hop Family Tree and X-Men Grand Design
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Mar 24, 2024 03:56
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I’m now 2/2 for buying sweatshirts from YouTubers and them later being outed as predators (CK and All gas no brakes).
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Mar 24, 2024 04:11
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Jordan7hm posted:I’m now 2/2 for buying sweatshirts from YouTubers and them later being outed as predators (CK and All gas no brakes). If that's the only poo poo you've bought from people who turned out to be predators, consider yourself lucky. I have commissioned art from artists I later found out were ultra chuds and at least one piece where the artist was later outed as a predator. I've waited in long lines for the privilege of telling them how much I admire them and to get poo poo signed by a couple predators. It's a really icky lovely feeling but a) i didn't know at the time and b) i've already wasted the currency (either time or money) so i can't undo that, i just don't associate with that person anymore.
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Mar 24, 2024 14:18
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That was me right after the first Hal Jordan comeback comic and that right wing frog coin bigot (I legit cannot remember his name rn). I got a sketch of Ollie holding Hal’s ring. I think it’s still hanging in a Chicago-area shop these days, I’d donated it even before all the nastiness came out.
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Mar 24, 2024 14:35
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:That was me right after the first Hal Jordan comeback comic and that right wing frog coin bigot (I legit cannot remember his name rn). I got a sketch of Ollie holding Hal’s ring. I think it’s still hanging in a Chicago-area shop these days, I’d donated it even before all the nastiness came out. Ethan Van Sciver. Before I knew what a neo-Nazi adjacent POS he was, I met him once at an Orlando MegaCon and had him sign the Green Lantern issue he drew where the Tattooed Man killed a guy Geoff Johns named after me (from when I posted on Geoff's old message boards 20 years ago). I don't even have that comic anymore.
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Mar 24, 2024 16:14
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I have a LOT of Dave Sim stuff*. Super regret getting a Cerebus sketch from Gerhard, should have said not to draw that character. *I made excuses for his comments for way too long. I got an LP and t-shirt from a musician who was shown to be a rapist like a month later. At least that turned into $30 rags. Got plans for a broken record for next Halloween.
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Mar 24, 2024 16:41
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I owned a lot of Warren Ellis and had quite a few autographed books.
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Mar 24, 2024 16:53
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That’s a loving big bummer about Piskor, I’m a huge fan of his work and his YouTube channel. I…literally just watched one this morning. But there’s not any real explanation for those messages other than being a huge loving predatory creep to an underage girl. Goddamit.
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Mar 24, 2024 17:03
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I like (well, liked) Piskor but this isn't exactly a huge shock.
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Mar 24, 2024 17:19
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Opopanax posted:I like (well, liked) Piskor but this isn't exactly a huge shock. That’s what my wife said.
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Mar 24, 2024 17:29
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Ethan Van Sciver. Before I knew what a neo-Nazi adjacent POS he was, I met him once at an Orlando MegaCon and had him sign the Green Lantern issue he drew where the Tattooed Man killed a guy Geoff Johns named after me (from when I posted on Geoff's old message boards 20 years ago). Oh shoot, you were there? We probably interacted way back when on that forum. It's crazy isn't it how EVS was back then and what we know him as now. Who could have ever imagined things would end up the way they have.
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Mar 24, 2024 17:33
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RevKrule posted:If that's the only poo poo you've bought from people who turned out to be predators, consider yourself lucky. I have commissioned art from artists I later found out were ultra chuds and at least one piece where the artist was later outed as a predator. I've waited in long lines for the privilege of telling them how much I admire them and to get poo poo signed by a couple predators. It's a really icky lovely feeling but a) i didn't know at the time and b) i've already wasted the currency (either time or money) so i can't undo that, i just don't associate with that person anymore. Yup. I have some old sketches from Dave Sim, a bunch of pages from Mark Martin's Mirage TMNT stuff (he's super-rightwing, went to January 6th then wound up in a mental hospital because he went full Q Anon), piece Barry Blair did for me because he was a fan of the first game I worked on years ago and I had no idea he was a well known abuser, and some Dale Keown doodles on a Tiger-X TPB. Oh, and of course like a DOZEN books signed by Ed Piskor. I'm sure there's more pain lurking in my collection as time progresses. I still have all of it, but it's locked away because I honestly don't know what the hell to do with it. I should probably just slap a padlock and one of these on it, then bury everything in the goddamn desert. 
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Mar 24, 2024 21:55
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I mean, don’t feel bad about it, you’re not responsible for other people’s insanity or shittiness. Sure don’t display it if you want, but I also think displaying old art isn’t a tacit endorsement of their beliefs. Most people would just seen a cool picture of the TMNT.
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Mar 24, 2024 22:09
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My old roommate had a photo on her dating profile featuring our apartment/shared bookshelves featuring a complete run of Cerebus phonebooks, and at one point started getting some messages from people who were very impressed that she'd read all 300 issues of Cerebus and I had to explain what a red flag that was. We've both since moved and the Cerebus has been moved to a lower/less prominent place of display. Though thinking about the history of comics (and literature, and journalism, and music, and really anything) I feel like a careful scan of any photo of anyone's sufficiently media-stuffed apartment is going to display some dubious creators.
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Mar 24, 2024 22:39
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I owned every volume of Busou Renkin before the creator got charged with owning just a tremendous amount of child pornography (he got a slap on the wrist for it and continues to make manga. Jesus Christ, Japan)
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Mar 24, 2024 23:06
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Edge & Christian posted:My old roommate had a photo on her dating profile featuring our apartment/shared bookshelves featuring a complete run of Cerebus phonebooks, and at one point started getting some messages from people who were very impressed that she'd read all 300 issues of Cerebus and I had to explain what a red flag that was. We've both since moved and the Cerebus has been moved to a lower/less prominent place of display. "Tell me your favorite parts of Cerebus" is a great screener question, if it works at all. For the record, I liked Lord Julius. E: And I only read the first few books, so I don't know if he turned to poo poo later. I'm pretty sure he died
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Mar 24, 2024 23:40
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StumblyWumbly posted:"Tell me your favorite parts of Cerebus" is a great screener question, if it works at all. Oh you sweet summer child.
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Mar 24, 2024 23:57
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thetoughestbean posted:I owned every volume of Busou Renkin before the creator got charged with owning just a tremendous amount of child pornography (he got a slap on the wrist for it and continues to make manga. Jesus Christ, Japan) I had all the volumes of Busou Renkin and all of the volumes of Rurouni Kenshin before I learned about that. So I donated all of them to the annual book sale at my local library. (Seriously, Japan. What is wrong with you?)
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Mar 25, 2024 00:00
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fritz posted:Ed Piskor's apparently the kind of dude who would try to groom a teen: https://bsky.app/profile/hulkhoquinn.bsky.social/post/3kofburwfnt2r Cartoonist Kayfabe seems to be missing from YouTube...
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Mar 25, 2024 01:36
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Uthor posted:Cartoonist Kayfabe seems to be missing from YouTube... That’s an unexpected turn.
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Mar 25, 2024 01:46
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Yeah they nuked their whole online presence. Like I said, I literally watched one of their videos this morning like an hour before those screenshots came out. Crazy. Welp, Ed doesn’t seem particularly regretful of his actions, he’s always been the one to block and ban people for criticizing him or the show in the slightest! I hope Rugg decries Piskor and can come back in some way in the future. If he keeps working with Ed, gently caress him too! Shame! An incredibly talented indie artist who I loved and meant a lot to me at various points in my life! gently caress!
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Mar 25, 2024 01:57
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The Last Call posted:Oh shoot, you were there? I had a bad feeling even back around 2004, when Green Lantern was DC's hottest book that made Johns and Van Sciver into A-list superstars. Back then, Van Sciver's now ex-wife Sharis was a prolific poster on Johns' message boards, and I always remember how she once interjected into some random, unrelated conversation that she wanted to hold up Phyllis Schafly, of all people, as a strong female role model for her kids. That was so odd and off-putting, I never forgot it. Was she the person who put Ethan on his path to the far right? Then there was a convention where Van Sciver and Mark Waid teamed up to confront and publicly discredit Rob Granito, an artist who was an infamous, shameless swiper and tracer of other, better-known artists. I forgot who called them this -- possibly Ethan himself -- but whoever it was said something about the biggest bleeding heart liberal in comics and a guy who is practically a Nazi finding common ground in calling out this talentless hack and thief.
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Mar 25, 2024 01:57
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Uthor posted:Cartoonist Kayfabe seems to be missing from YouTube... it turns out the kayfabe was that he didn't suck poo poo
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Mar 25, 2024 02:02
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I had a bad feeling even back around 2004, when Green Lantern was DC's hottest book that made Johns and Van Sciver into A-list superstars. Back then, Van Sciver's now ex-wife Sharis was a prolific poster on Johns' message boards, and I always remember how she once interjected into some random, unrelated conversation that she wanted to hold up Phyllis Schafly, of all people, as a strong female role model for her kids. That was so odd and off-putting, I never forgot it. Was she the person who put Ethan on his path to the far right? I had no clue about Sharis, and I definitely remember her. I spoke with her a few times on the forum itself. She always came off nice and quiet. I figured she was the dutiful wife watching her husband succeed at the time, had no clue about her view points. When Ethan really started to go off the rails one of the first things I thought was that, she must be stuck in a horrible relationship and hoped she was able to get free of it. If it turns out she was the cause of Ethan going down that rabbit hole, that's a twist I didn't see coming. I did know Ethan was a supporter of the right, not sure why but I definitely got that impression at the time. I’m fairly sure he went to the staff once to complain about someone’s view point about something that was going on. I can’t recall what. I do remember people were always uncomfortable with Sinestro’s look, it resembled you know who and he confirmed it was based off him. That was always off putting, if only we knew what was to come. The situation about the artist that was selling copies of famous artist work and signing them as himself was such a mess. What caused the whole confrontation was someone had passed, Mike Wieringo? Might have been someone else. And the guy had ripped off his artwork, had signed and was selling it as his own at cons. It was a step too far at the time and the whole event unfolded. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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Mar 25, 2024 03:26
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Yeah they nuked their whole online presence. Like I said, I literally watched one of their videos this morning like an hour before those screenshots came out. Crazy. Welp, Ed doesn’t seem particularly regretful of his actions, he’s always been the one to block and ban people for criticizing him or the show in the slightest! I hope Rugg decries Piskor and can come back in some way in the future. If he keeps working with Ed, gently caress him too! Shame! An incredibly talented indie artist who I loved and meant a lot to me at various points in my life! gently caress! Their channel got me way more into comics especially the year before and the first year of the pandemic. I hope anyone involved seriously reflects and changes their behaviour moving forward, and I also hope that the videos aren’t completely lost. There was an enormous amount of good stuff on that channel, some really great interviews and spotlights on stuff I’d never have heard of without them.
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Mar 25, 2024 03:50
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Then there was a convention where Van Sciver and Mark Waid teamed up to confront and publicly discredit Rob Granito, an artist who was an infamous, shameless swiper and tracer of other, better-known artists. I forgot who called them this -- possibly Ethan himself -- but whoever it was said something about the biggest bleeding heart liberal in comics and a guy who is practically a Nazi finding common ground in calling out this talentless hack and thief. It was Waid: Mark Waid posted:t's just that when I heard that he'd tried to capitalize off Dwayne's death, that was the last straw for me. I saw red and stormed over with Ethan. We were both livid. I told Fraudboy in no uncertain terms that I will personally contact every convention there is and warn them not to give him a table if they ever want to see me or MY friends there, EVER. I also screamed at him when he said "Well, truthfully--" that he is not allowed to use that word, ever, ever. That word means nothing coming from him.
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Mar 25, 2024 04:14
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Dawgstar posted:It was Waid: Dwayne! Wieringo had died much earlier didn't he. It stinks to see such talent pass.
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The Last Call posted:I had no clue about Sharis, and I definitely remember her. I spoke with her a few times on the forum itself. She always came off nice and quiet. I figured she was the dutiful wife watching her husband succeed at the time, had no clue about her view points. When Ethan really started to go off the rails one of the first things I thought was that, she must be stuck in a horrible relationship and hoped she was able to get free of it. If it turns out she was the cause of Ethan going down that rabbit hole, that's a twist I didn't see coming. Phyllis Schafly AND Ann Coulter! I just remembered the second name she dropped. The Last Call posted:Dwayne! With all the Boomers still working in comics, I have a feeling we are going to get more sad news every year moving forward. I think the ones that hit me the hardest were Darwyn Cooke, George Perez, and Keith Giffen. I feel so lucky I got to meet all of them at cons and tell them how much their work has meant to me. Dawgstar posted:It was Waid: YES! Thank you! I remember reading that exact thing, just forgot some key details, like who wrote it. Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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