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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Edmund Lava posted:

Eric Powell is on there too. Very comforting considering I like The Goon, but some of it would fit right into the CG narrative.

Yeah, uh, he was going "these new republicans are making Good™ republicans look bad, what happened to the party of Reagan?" awhile back on twitter. Not unexpected, unfortunately, because I saw the same stuff you did probably.

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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Dorks like him don't know how to buy aspirin.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

CharlestheHammer posted:

I have a more cynical take, the people who usually do the all or none approach to free speech are generally centralists who pride themselves on being not black and white. Weirdly on this issue there is no nuance but slippery slopes as far as the eye can see.

They certainly aren't ever black, that's for sure.


Lunatic Sledge posted:

Conservative Upbringings Anonymous story

Welcome fellow traveler.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Wanderer posted:

I wonder at what point EVS will achieve a critical mass where he's more known and remembered for showing his rear end on Twitter over his political stances than he is for his X-Men or Green Lantern runs.

I think he's coming perilously close to being there, if he isn't there already.

I don't follow Big Two but there's plenty of creator's whose work for them is good enough to be noticed outside of fanboy circles. Literally never heard of him outside of being a piece of poo poo so it's already happened.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Retro Futurist posted:

EVS is a legit great artist, but he’s not distinctive at all, just good at the DC house style. Like when Allred or Burnham are drawing a book you know it right away, with EVS it could be one of dozens of competent but easily replaced artists

..So he's not really great at all then.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

quote:

And instead of caring about the 13-year-old Sim ADMITTEDLY transported across state lines to stay in his hotel room
Wait. What.:stare:

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
https://twitter.com/AntarcticPress/status/1086416271409930240

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
https://twitter.com/SjwSpiderman/status/1090366361212276737

EVS's :brainworms: are struggling right now.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Given how poorly talent is paid by the industry, are we really gonna be upset over a writer offering a writing course?

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Fangz posted:

Even if you don't need the money, you should still not offer services like that for free. It's standard creative industries ethics.

This.

That's also a really poorly worded tweet because I thought it implied the course was offered through University of Phoenix which did raise my eyebrows a little.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Alaois posted:

I don't think loving Neil Gaiman is hurting for money

Space Fish posted:

Indeed, Amanda's doing quite well for herself.
:dadjoke:

Thread title right here, good show.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Truly, promoting a video writing course is on the same level as campaigning for misogyny and white nationalism, and really warrants discussion in this thread.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Vince MechMahon posted:

People should bring up those things instead then. But they don't. I wonder loving why.

E: Let me add to this one thing. Amanda Palmer has said and done a lot of poo poo that's dumb as gently caress and hasn't owned up to all of it. But if you look at interviews with her she's the first to admit she's a flawed person. Constantly bringing up the things she has owned up to, apologized for, and course corrected on is lovely. It's doubly lovely to move the conversation off of her husband and somehow blame her for his lovely actions. If you don't see how basically saying "oh no, pure and good Neil has been corrupted by his evil witch of a wife," makes you sound like you should be on one of EVS's streams cutting up an Amanda Palmer record with a knife, then maybe you should take some time for self reflection.

Yeah it's been reeeeeaaaaaaaal neat how a tweet by Neil Gaiman with no reference to, from, about, or for his wife somehow still brought her into the conversation here. Not suspicious at all guys!

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Wanderer posted:

What a lazy pseudo-criticism of two works that share a surface-level similarity.

The thunderous roar you hear is the trundling of goons racing towards this thread to tell you how much they don't like popular thing.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
This is tangentially comics related and definitely rightwing so uh here

https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/1094821561050324993

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
I'm sure it's because they're perfectly normal and stable individuals.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

hadji murad posted:

It was also won by nuking women and children of a race deemed to be inferior so it’s important to remember that we ourselves can be so much better.

This argument would have more weight if nazis hadn't murdered somebody at a protest recently. But you're right, we need to gently and calmly ask them to not kill us pretty please :decorum:

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Edge & Christian posted:

Even as someone who still thinks large parts of Cerebus (and the dead-on-the-vine Strange Death of Alex Raymond art-history comic) are impressive and often genuinely enjoyable* works, this whole Cerebus in Hell run of books are just unreadable, baffling nonsense.

I know Sim was having wrist problems, combined with his studio burning down, and he just straight up couldn't draw anything for a few years and the entire concept of this run of comics is cutting and pasting old Cerebus figures on top of Gustv Dore engravings and other public doman artwork about Hell but then also doing a bunch of goofy superhero pop culture jokes and using it to critique Marxist-Feminist-zzzzzzz I literally do not know anyone who has made it through an issue of this. I have no idea who this is being made for.

* I haven't read any of it since Glamourpuss wrapped up 5+ years ago and even then I had to skip any of the 'humor' pieces and skip straight to the Art History stuff, and given some of the stuff said/revealed since 2013 I may well not be able to enjoy the pre-Tangent stuff in good conscience without seeing echoes of all of the poo poo to come.

I... thought he was stopping at 300. Like, that was his goal, to do the entire run, then stop and leave the story finished.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
I doubt there's anybody really clamoring to publish a 90's Bad Girl comic anymore. Hack/Slash really only exists due to his sheer will to keep publishing it at this point.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

site posted:

not technically comcis related but i guess jack is getting rid of counters on replies/rt's/likes because nazis keep getting ratioed into oblivion, dark lol

More like brands and celebrities getting ratioed, who actually put money into Twitter as opposed to annefrankrapist42342678 with an egg icon and two followers.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Jedit posted:

You have no idea how weird it is to hear people talking about VIZ as a serious publisher. In the UK Viz is an obscene parody comic that at its peak in the late 1980s was selling a million copies an issue.

The Drunken Bakers alone elevates Viz UK above 90% of what Viz US craps out.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Skwirl posted:

Seriously though, it's just about wanting good comics.

https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1107804190087237636


A dude like that I just can't help but feel sorry for. It's pretty clear he probably loves comics, almost certainly is some shut-in weirdo, found (unfortunately) a group of similar people in CG, and in turn bought into their garbage wholesale. I almost feel a little bad seeing him called out like that, it's not like he's some industry artist who still can't draw worth a poo poo, he's just some pathetic loser.

Almost.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Dawgstar posted:

Apparently some people left a group called Indiecron and Doug TenNapel lied about talking to them beforehand? Some people are brutally upset he 'defamed loyal ComicsGators.' They're also upset at Jon Del Arroz (who you will remember as the leading Hispanic voice in science-fiction) for making noises that's he also in the group when he was apparently 'kicked out' along with Vox Day.

Now I am dumber.

When you stare into the abyss, the abyss calls you the n-word in your DMs.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

I don't know this Friends episode so it might not be a card for age of consent laws but it's Ross so I'm gonna assume it is.

wait never mind it'll be for which states allow you to marry first cousins.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Sadly it's easier to assume a person in Hollywood is a sex pest until proven otherwise at this point.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Covok posted:

Like most tech sites. There is no personal oversight. They put all faith in ~THE ALGORITHM~, blessings be upon her name. They basically treat it like a sheep pen where they let the sheep dog do all the work. 'Cept the sheep dog is lazy and suffering from rabbies. And, when it goes inevitably wrong, they claim no responsbility for their foolishness.

Tech is riddled with chuds, they just are a lot smarter than the average egg on twitter, so they simply do poo poo behind the scenes.

https://www.thestranger.com/news/2017/10/04/25451102/we-snuck-into-seattles-super-secret-white-nationalist-convention

The rear end in a top hat who got fired from Google is just the tip of the iceberg.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

The people handling reports are basically call center employees with even worse jobs

Okay, they're still repeatedly and consistently siding with white supremacists in their decisions. Almost as if the article where they talk about getting a foot in the door at tech companies in any way possible is the issue. Especially low level positions such as...

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

call center employees

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

People in those jobs are pressured to make hundreds of calls in a shift based on stupid rules that they don't make or necessarily agree with, with management to punish them when they gently caress up (for varying definitions there of), for not much money

Getting mad at them and not the people responsible for making the policies, official and otherwise, is asinine

Fake edit also the odds of the lowest ring of people actually working for/at twitter and not a company that is contracted to Twitter are pretty low, these people aren't selling their souls to get a cush gig, they're trying to pay rent

Nah, when it's blatant poo poo like getting banned because you told a nazi account to gently caress off, it's pretty drat clear what the person who read the report thinks. I'm not giving anybody the benefit of the doubt over this no matter how overworked they are.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Cool glad you blame the wage slaves for the decisions of their bosses I guess

But nah I guess anyone who takes a minimum wage job handling reports to try to make rent is actually a Nazi, way more plausible

Somebody looking at dozens of reports from blatant nazis and bot accounts and thinking "hmm yes this person that told a nazi to go gently caress themselves is the actual problem" is completely culpable for their actions. "Just following orders" hasn't been a legit defense for a long time, hope that helps.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Puppy Time posted:

I'm not sure how you're expecting a random wage slave to know the provenance of all the reporting accounts. Like, most of the ones I've seen quoted here don't have swastikas in the avatars or hitlerdidnothingwrong69 as a name. And that's assuming they have access to the reporters at all and not just like "this post had a bajillion reports for hat speech" or something.


I am sure that these people taking a thankless and lovely job because that's the only way to avoid starving on the streets are the people to blame for the nazi ideals of twitter.

They could try looking at the loving reported tweets?



https://www.splcenter.org/news/2019/04/05/twitter-locked-me-out-my-account-reporting-extremists

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Mr. Glum posted:

Any idea what this is referring to?


Dawgstar posted:

Nathan W. Pyle. He does Strange Planet, I guess? I've never heard of it or him.
This sucks because it was a funny, clever gimmick (though it was wearing thin).

In the future everyone will be Milkshake Duck for fifteen minutes.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

That's uh probably why the book is racist against the Japanese too. And let's be honest if anybody could ever claim to have a legit reason to be racist against the Japanese it's probably any Chinese person who lived through WW2.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Dawgstar posted:

And funnily enough part of the reason EVS is so slow is all that unnecessary detail he puts on his stuff. It adds nothing to it. You can tell he came up in the 90's.

It's also not even interesting detail like, say, Geof Darrow, Frank Quitely, or James Stokoe create.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
I guess they must have also had an insider who whispered in James Cameron's ear to cram the first six hundred pages of the manga into an two hour movie and mash characters from even later chapters into it haphazardly. Curse those meddling SJW's!

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Vince MechMahon posted:

The movie is actually better than the manga and the changes made a lot of sense.

You know, there's being contrary for :goonsay:-sake and then there's just being the biggest moron possible.

Nobody is going to remember it was even a thing a year from now.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013
Twitter is just another example of poor/minimal moderation leading to excess assholes because while normal people won't put up with assholes, other assholes will, and eventually everybody who isn't an rear end in a top hat leaves.

Yes I'm still there.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

IUG posted:

I want something like Mastodon to take off (and not just because I'm listening to Mastodon the band as I type this), just to kill those two companies. But I have no idea if it's any better, and also after quitting Facebook, I hardly see the reason to join another. I keep Twitter around to follow who I want to follow, and I never look at trending stuff, hashtags, etc. There is something also to say about how easy it is to embed a tweet, even this site embeds them.

I really want Mastodon to work but god is it a nightmare of UI, and the open source folks behind it have the same problem of "we can't tell anybody not to use it because Freeze Peach" and so of course endless child porn "art" instances popped up.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Dawgstar posted:

Didn't they just buy up somebody, too?

Yep, Lion Forge, and dumped a ton of POC creators/editors in the process.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Oasx posted:

that version of Cap is a rather conservative rear end in a top hat, that doesn’t mean that the character reflects the political opinions of Millar.

:ironicat:

Oh boy.

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ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

Puppy Time posted:

So was Black Widow and they fukken HATE her.

Why do they hate Endgame then?

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