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Jordan7hm posted:Who gives a gently caress about no-talent hacks like that. Time spend dissecting their work is time that could be spent on literally anything else. I also think that at least part of the motivation of the "close read" of Iron Sights was to post half of the lovely comic onto Twitter under the figleaf of 'for review purposes' not just 'don't pay this rear end in a top hat, look at this poo poo'. There's also slightly more-than-average reason to really dissect how lovely Richard Meyers's comics are because he's built his entire reputation and following on the principle of "these SJW millennials don't know how to make good comics, the art and writing in comics these days is SO BAD it's driving fans away, if I was in charge of comics they would be the best and everyone would love them, I know what makes good comics, my voice and the voices of my important friends are being silenced!" so when he's given the opportunity to Show Everyone How It's Done, really hammering home the utter bullshit of it is more relevant than like tracking down an issue of like.... a tertiary Extreme Studios book from 1995 and making fun of how awful it is, because Extreme Studios wasn't hurting anyone or declaring other publishers dumb whores or whatever. This may be an unproductive rationale, but it's also why I'm fine with people making appearance based insults against Donald Trump, because he presents himself as this arbiter of other people's worth based on appearances, and as a big tough alpha male sex symbol gently caress machine, and is not. Mitch McConnell or Sarah Sanders or Ben Shapiro have never tried to set them up to be paragons of beauty and virility, so it seems cruel to mock them for it. Dedicating that amount of effort/vitriol to someone's Spider-Gwen fancomic would be cruel. Iron Sights deserves it.
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If we're talking about the term and not the concept (which has existed since someone drew a really nice butt for no clear reason in a cave painting), I *was* alive and buying comics when the Marvel Swimsuit Issues came out and when the Bad Girl fad took over comics in the late 1990s, and the first time I ever heard the term 'fanservice' specifically for cheesecake/softcore pornography/titilation out of nowhere was definitely from the dude in high school who always wanted everyone to watch anime (actually, JAPANIMATION when asked why there would be like a shower scene in the middle of an otherwise not super sexy anime he was showing everyone. It definitely exists as a marketing/pandering concept globally but the term itself unquestionably comes from anime/manga fandom. Wikipedia backs this up, even though it directly references the two American comic book examples brought up by CTH and not any of the other similarly dirtbaggy things done before/during/after 1991 in comic books, but again, as a comic book fan in 1991 I had never heard the term "fanservice" and was only exposed to it (by an anime dude) in high school circa 1996-7.
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Four issues are out, three of which (1, 2 and 4?) are free on Kindle Unlimited but weirdly nowhere on Comixology at all. I just read them, and they're pretty much what you'd expect, if you expected almost no time given to the Confederate Bikini Lady who was the centerpiece of the promotional campaign, and a lot more about some poor misunderstood handsome nationalists getting oppressed by a UN-Backed Evil Justice League in league with ANTIFA. https://twitter.com/kennybloggins/status/1062241503635013633
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I hope responding to that tweet thread doesn't count as including him in the thread, but I'm trying to follow the series of events he's describing. I definitely think this is the most relevant of his fifty tweets in the thread, though. https://twitter.com/IAmDeathRay/status/1062396666089795584
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El Gallinero Gros posted:You might even say they fight for the rights of every man, and that they're real Americans.
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I mean, it's the Internet and there's a fair bit of "Stan Lee was a greedy corporate hack leeching off of Jack Kirby's creativity gently caress that guy he never did a single thing good other than dying" style hot takes, but those have existed at least since the 1980s. Some of them were performatively extreme, my favorite one being pulling this quote out as a great encapsulation of Stan Lee's career, and not even the worst thing he did: This story is pretty unflattering to Stan Lee, he was racist and drove away a black comic artist! Except:  I think this is the only 'novel' anti-Lee thing I've seen cropped up since his passing.
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I'm also a little confused by the whole "Ethan Van Sciver co-created Jessica Cruz" because as best as I can tell, the name was first mentioned in Green Lantern (2011) #20 which is a big anniversary issue with like a dozen artists. Then she actually appears on panel as Power Ring in Johns's JL run in an arc drawn by Doug Mahnke. She's in the remainder of the run, which is drawn by many people, none of them Ethan Van Sciver. She becomes a Green Lantern at the end of JL #50 in a scene drawn by Jason Fabok. I guess she appears in the Green Lantern Rebirth one-shot which is partially drawn by EVS, but then she stops appearing in any books he draws. I mean, there are obviously layers of credits for everything. Jamie McKelvie deserves (and receives) credit for creating the modern/movie design for Carol Danvers despite not having ever drawn any interior pages of a Captain Marvel book to my memory. There are plenty of examples of someone (be it an artist, writer, editor, etc.) being a sounding board or contributor to a beloved story/character even though they didn't literally put pen to paper to create the finished product. And obviously artists who work on books deserve a lot of collaborative/creative credit. But like best-case scenario here, it seems like EVS is saying he can't be racist because he designed a costume for a character. I am not following modern GL books, but does she have a really awesome kickass costume that has revitalized interest in her and the Green Lantern mythos or something? In short: there are probably a lot of things (Dex Starr, I think) that EVS can take credit for truthfully, but he wasn't even working on the books that introduced/developed Jessica Cruz as a character. And a cursory google suggests that Jason Fabok designed the costume, and that THIS was EVS's pitch. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Dec 9, 2018 |
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Endless Mike posted:He's not taking credit. Someone in this thread incorrectly attributed him. quote:I dont care about that poo poo. At all. I created Jessica Cruz and the first Muslim XMan. He's said it elsewhere too: https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/810988208276303872 https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/910935555097137156
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He's 30 years old, who was hitting puberty in 2001 or so and scanning the horizon for male role models and coming up with the Fonz and KISS?
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Archyduchess posted:The tweet which kicked off the current hubbub-- the one about pronouns, not the one about spirit animals, which is imo worse really I agree with all of the Maneaters/pronoun stuff that you articulated better than I could, but the spirit animal stuff has always been a little confusing to me. On a base level, I agree that her spirit animal 'joke' was worse because Cain's pronoun stuff was expressed out into the ether (as much as a tweet can be), not directed at a specific person, whereas her spirit animal tweet was in direct response to someone telling her that it's offensive. I am still not 100% who is actually taking offense at spirit animal memes, but that doesn't super matter; if someone politely informed me that I should stop calling clothes of a violet hue "purple" because it upsets any sort of marginalized group, I would shrug my shoulders stop labeling things "purple", what does that hurt me? If someone said that to me and I went "LET ME GO WRITE THAT DOWN WITH MY PURPLE MARKER WHILE I LISTEN TO PURPLE STUFF BY BIG MOE" I would be an rear end in a top hat. Also I'm realizing this might just be exposing my own personal bias because most of the links I initially found about spirit animals were focused on (almost universally white) pagans talking about how people calling Snorlax their "spirit animal" belittles their deeply held beliefs. Paganism in general has always struck me as closely adjacent to edgelordy Satanists/Majickians/witches/Subgenius/freaking out the squares performativeness that in itself is usually based on some sort of appropriation and belitting of deeply held beliefs so countering that just seems like concern trolling, though I do realize that a) the various older belief systems they're cribbing from still exist and the spirit animal stuff is probably offensive to them, no matter how relatively small or non-vocal those groups may be b) I'm being a judgey rear end in a top hat about pagans Anyway, If there's something deeper I'm missing here (besides the directed aggression/overall jerkiness) of Cain's spirit animal stuff, I would be grateful to know.
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Mr. Maltose posted:Also, I wouldn’t call those groups “non-vocal” as much as being groups consistently denied the means to be broadly vocal about these issues of appropriation. There are absolutely people discussing and writing about the issue with appropriating “spirit animal” as a concept that aren’t white people angry you’re not appropriating correctly. Are there any good pieces about it? Like I said I don't really need any convincing but I'd like to know more about it. Part of me feels like outside of power dynamics it's not a turn of phrase than a lot of other religious terms used casually (i.e. Jeph Loeb is the Patron Saint of Cannibal Supervillains, SDCC is a Pop Culture Mecca, etc.) but I admittedly know very little about indigenous religions and the first 8-10 links i clicked through to were either pagans being upset or people explaining how it's offensive without any links to anything. I'm being completely honest here, I don't want to assume that many/most Native Americans have Spirit Animal beliefs because that in itself seems like making a bunch of assumptions.
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Mr. Maltose posted:I’m going to be honest, the reason I didn’t directly link to some examples in my post is because most of the discussion I’ve read about it, like a lot of ‘niche’ minority issues, were in Twitter threads which are good for a lot of people weighting in on an issue but absolute garbage for trying to locate things six months or so after the fact. I can take a poke around but I don’t have anything longform on hand.
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Covok posted:And yeah Dick Meyers still sued. That's where the money went, most likely. Covering his legal expenses. The follow-up series Alt-Hero: Q by Chuck Dixon got canned by Indiegogo and moved to a shadier crowdfunding site and raised $18,000 and is scheduled to come out in May 2019, so we'll see what happens to that. Trump's Space Force, another book by Chuck Dixon, was supposed to come out in November 2018 and there's no sign of it either.
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Skwirl posted:Nothings come out yet, maybe he's grifting the grifters?
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Madkal posted:Quick question, and I figure that there isn't really an adequate answer out there, but in the specific case of Dixon, did all this stuff come out after 9/11, and in the broader sense how many comic creators got their brains....er....broke...by 9/11? I know Frank Miller is a pretty good example as you can see the direction his work took before and after 9/11, but I am curious if people like Dixon were more centrist before and then 9/11 happened and they became more...radicalised (if that is the right word). This isn't to make an excuse, but I am wondering if 9/11 broke a lot of people in the comic community for the worst. Miller I think you could make a better case for '9/11 contributed in driving him nuts'. Elements of sort of fascist power fantasies were evidence in all of his 1980s/1990s works (though really you can say that about most superhero/pulp comics creators), and the 2000s saw his hometown get attacked on 9/11 in a way that clearly traumatized Miller (and tons of other people) in a real way. You also can't discount the fact that it was in the 2000s that he also had his marriage to Lynn Varley (a creative and romantic partner for 20+ years) fall apart, some serious alcohol/health problems, etc. happen. You could chicken-egg it, but regardless I think there's a more marked shift in Miller's life/views after 2001 than there ever were with Dixon. If anything the environment for right wing grievance/radicalization has just helped him be more open with it.
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Jedit posted:Also has Dave Sim actually left Kitchener in the last decade?
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Coolness Averted posted:wait... so the ace in the hole/"I'll sue for libel!" is "How dare you say I transported a 13 year old child across state lines for sex! She was 15!" Am I reading that right? Twitter: You did a terrible thing, Dave Sim. Dave Sim: You're right, I did. Webmaster: I mean was it that bad? Comments: SUE THEM FOR LIBEL FOR GETTING A DETAIL WRONG
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Skwirl posted:They need to pull that red sharpie trick. I'm wondering if this is why that one artist shared it? https://twitter.com/alexdecampi/status/1087429703991025674 And then Adam Hughes brought up the old Tim Truman interview that Steve Lieber cited, which led Steve to link to that whole thread. So yeah, it's in the air right now. I'm guessing it's not Aftershock or TKO, just because they're both *really* new, and pretty much everyone making these vague statements are talking about how these companies are screwing young/up-and-coming creators who don't have anywhere else to go, which doesn't really describe the people putting out books at those two companies.
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I got really confused because the first place I saw this discussed claimed it was a Phoenix University class, which it is not. And this sort of spun out into a discussion of how hosed for-profit education is turning into for-profit medicine where people are forced to do donation drives just to get access to these things. All of which I agree with, but isn't what any of this is. (Kim O'Connor was apparently just kidding when she said it was from Phoenix University and people took that at face value I guess?) It's A Master Class Video Series which is essentially a 21st Century version of the VHS copy of How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way. If you click through the link they have a bunch of people who need money way less than Neil Gaiman (who himself does not need money) doing these, from Paul Krugman and Shonda Rimes to James Patterson and Will Wright. All of this is fine for what it is, a fairly pricey video series with an educational bent, and many of these are things I would watch if they were on Netflix or some other cheap platform. A single class is $90 or a year subscription to all of them is $180. What this "MasterClass" isn't is anything that resembles a college class, there's no interaction of papers/projects to submit or a grade or credit assigned anymore than you get those things from buying Raina Telgemeier's new book about making comics, which to be fair is probably going to be cooler and much, much cheaper. I think there's definitely something to be said about the weird "we're all just starving artists trying to uplift"/hucksterism/white savior/whatever stuff that has been part and parcel of Gaiman/Palmer's schtick for ages now, and how that feeds/is fed into by the breathless way people are talking about this Master Class on Writing, but it's still on a site where you can get guitar playing tips from the dude from Rage Against the Machine or watch videos of Steph Curry talking about making free throws. It's Youtube Instructional Videos You Have to Pay For, which is fine but it's also the rough equivalent of someone setting up a GoFundMe because they really need an HBOGo login or tickets to TCAF or something. Which is also fine, but yeah, I don't know. Neil is still being a clown about it though. https://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/1091050946182959105
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Lurdiak posted:Didn't he ultimately drop the bad alt-right comic? The CG-adjacent stuff at Alterna is their publisher (Peter Simeti) kept refusing to say anything unkind about Comicsgate because they're grateful for EVERY reader and some people are trying to SHAME him into not being grateful to each and every person who supports them but he will not be shamed and then he started blocking anyone who was vocally anti-CG. This was because he was retweeting literally any account mentioning/praising one of his comics, even if the rest of the message was about how they bought an Alterna book rather than some cucked SJW Marvel book edited by a feminazi or whatever bullshit CG was on that week. When the whole "you're signal boosting abuse" thing came up, he blocked the people who brought it up. He then updated the Code of Conduct for employees/freelancers at Alterna to state that they could not insult fans or groups of fans and were not allowed to [s]block[s] blockchain on Twitter because think about it, every person you block could be a potential customer! See at Alterna, we value each and every fan as a potential customer and unlike at those other big companies we'd never condemn or belittle a potential customer just because they have abhorrent views, or harass people online, or harass our creators, we're a company that respects the fans! It is a complete coincidence that I, the publisher of Alterna Comics, appear on a ton of CG-affiliated streams and blogs, I have no idea whatever you are implying! https://twitter.com/petersimeti/status/1094374776079032320 There's a lot of weird coincidences like that! Anyway, SWATTing is terrible it should not have been done assuming it was actually done, I will be curious to see if there's any follow up on this.
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Looking through the THANKS FOR SUPPORTING LONESTAR donor page at the back, sure is a very long list (with a bunch of side-by-side repeats) of dudes! I counted and out of 1123 names in the Thank You Supporters section, there were... 36 traditional female names in there if we include Lola Lovelace and Godiva Mahoney, and also count "Mitch and Betty Breitweiser" (the only two person line) as a female contributor. The vast majority of these supporters don't appear to have any social media (Comicsgate or otherwise) under the names given to IndieGoGo, so we may never know if the Freddies or Kelseys or Rileys on the list are dudes or not, much less IRRADIATED REDNECK or ALBINO THUNDERBUNS or SINISTA SMIRK or OATHKEEPER 3P. Even if we are very generous in our assumptions, there is no way the number of people thanked approaches 10% female. But this is a movement for everyone, you guys
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A few things not really brought up in that article: 1) There were 25 "Joker Month" variant covers they solicited, and of those only a handful show the Joker with the upper hand. For some reason Barry Allen and Aquaman aren't crying when it looks like the Joker might beat them. 2) The creative team on Batgirl at the time wasn't part of the "slap a variant cover on the book" editorial process, which is apparently standard procedure but it is kind of amazing that it's still the standard after Manara Spider-Woman and this and a few other lesser "variant cover in poor taste" controversies that this is still the case. 3) The cover was pulled, at the artist Rafael Albuquerque's request. He felt the need to issue a statement on the matter because DC's initial statement made it sound like they were bowing to violence: quote:Regardless if fans like Rafael Albuquerque's homage to Alan Moore's THE KILLING JOKE graphic novel from 25 years ago, or find it inconsistent with the current tonality of the Batgirl books - threats of violence and harassment are wrong and have no place in comics or society. Albuquerque (and the creative team on Batgirl at the time) clarified that there were threats of harassment and violence, but it was from people upset that the SJW cucks in fandom (and in the DC freelance pool and editorial offices) would dare to not publish the Batgirl cover, not from anyone wanting the Batgirl cover pulled. It was an early test case for the kind of poo poo Comicsgate does today.
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IronSaber posted:Huh. Guess I need to dump Time as a news source. Other articles by the author of that Batgirl piece include: -- A pitch for Ayn Rand on the $10 bill as a sign of true feminism -- "Online Harassment Affects Men Too" -- "Female Breadwinners Can't Have It Both Ways" --"The CDC's Rape Numbers are Misleading" --"Until feminism recognizes discrimination against men, the movement will be incomplete" Her most recent article (she hasn't written for them since 2015) was about how Carly Fiorina is going to knock Donald Trump out of the GOP primary, and Fiorina is awesome and should be the nominee, but also it's some weird reverse-sexism feminist trap that lets her stop Trump. A quick glance at the more recent Time "Ideas" stuff seems way more innocuous.
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Even as someone who still thinks large parts of Cerebus (and the dead-on-the-vine Strange Death of Alex Raymond art-history comic) are impressive and often genuinely enjoyable* works, this whole Cerebus in Hell run of books are just unreadable, baffling nonsense. I know Sim was having wrist problems, combined with his studio burning down, and he just straight up couldn't draw anything for a few years and the entire concept of this run of comics is cutting and pasting old Cerebus figures on top of Gustv Dore engravings and other public doman artwork about Hell but then also doing a bunch of goofy superhero pop culture jokes and using it to critique Marxist-Feminist-zzzzzzz I literally do not know anyone who has made it through an issue of this. I have no idea who this is being made for. * I haven't read any of it since Glamourpuss wrapped up 5+ years ago and even then I had to skip any of the 'humor' pieces and skip straight to the Art History stuff, and given some of the stuff said/revealed since 2013 I may well not be able to enjoy the pre-Tangent stuff in good conscience without seeing echoes of all of the poo poo to come.
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It really isn't, it's a series of gag strips that I am pretty sure he did to try to get money for medical care?  Corny-rear end dad joke gag strips
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wonderscroft protected their account but here's a screencap from a couple of days ago https://twitter.com/comicvix/status/1099485467530145792 This appears to be a secondary account, the first one is more benign but no less rabid "Marvel movies are trash DC forever" https://twitter.com/brucesdianas/status/1010007889493229568 There's also a lot of Michael Jackson apologia on there too so
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Jedit posted:Gal Gadot served in the IDF, I wonder why this person has a problem with Marvel actors holding "Zionist views"? The thought process really seems to go: 1) I like the current DC movies! 2) People who like the Marvel movies are mean to the DC movies, and I have seen some "Marvel stans" claim that Gal Gadot is a zionist, whatever that is. 3) Well... MAYBE THE MARVEL PEOPLE ARE THE ZIONISTS 4) Okay that isn't getting anyone mad enough, what if.... THE MARVEL PEOPLE ARE RACISTS 5) Having a hard time finding anything to use in that argument, welp might as well make up a bunch of stories about Brie Larson? Like a lot of trolls on Twitter, I think they'd be hard pressed to describe zionism, much less give a slanted definition of it. (should go without saying that this does not describe all fans of the DC movies but specifically the ones making up poo poo about the Captain Marvel movie being hatespeech to try to help Wonder Woman maintain supremacy)
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rkajdi posted:Is that even DC fans? I assumed it was the standard alt-right morons who don't like movies involving non-white men to exist. They tend to appropriate terms for liberals or the left for messaging because it goes over better than 1488 stuff to people outside the white supremacist sphere. The broader Comicsgate/alt-right crew is just looking for an excuse to hurt women, yeah. Update: the original is unlocked and is now insisting that not only is the poster a young woman but a young black woman and no white person can police their use of racial slurs in fake memes and everyone should realize it was just a troll to trigger the Marvel Stans so I'm back to thinking maybe this whole thing is a long con middle aged CG rear end in a top hat. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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Tim Eldred is a guy who did a lot of work for Malibu/Ultraverse in the 1990s and has been working on all of the Marvel cartoons for the past decade or so. Just saying, looking at his Twitter account and his first page of recent tweets have been about being proud to direct Black Panther-centric episodes of Avengers Assemble, not letting Republicans claim MLK as one of theirs, and calling for Mitch McConnell to resign and looking forward to "the end of the Trump regime", it isn't that hard to deduce that he isn't a Comicsgater, ignorant of the comics industry, or anti-Marvel.
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X-O posted:It says something about the discourse on Twitter that I had no problem believing someone would say that sincerely. Madkal posted:There really needs to be a sarcasm signal that people can add to the end of sentences so you can see what the person meant. What Eldred wrote sarcastically could be said seriously by any comicsgater chud. Having initial assumptions is fine, but the burden of checking those assumptions exists. X-O posted:Yeah, when I see something like that in a tweet my first instinct is not to peruse the person's timeline and see if they are really that dumb or not because the less I have to look at what these people say the better.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Why 1000 slaves? https://twitter.com/DonalTDeLay/status/1100870039819956225 UPDATE: I checked on the context, and the next page has a teammate say: "Please stop saying that, Kuffz! You have no idea where your power comes from." So it is a JOKE. Jokes can't be racist, it's somewhere in the Constitution. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Feb 28, 2019 |
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I suppose this sort of pales in comparison to whatever regressive death cult poo poo is going on in Comicsgate Proper, but an article about C2E2 debuts brought a company called Counterpoint Comics to my attention. Apparently founded by old school Rob Liefeld buddy Marat Mychaels, as best as I can tell it's a company that has figured out how to circumvent the "hey don't sell prints of licensed characters at cons" rules by just constantly doing "exclusive variant covers" for the same comic book over and over and explaining that they're parodies. Their debut series "Do You Pooh?" I guess has had more than one issue published but each issue has had in Mychaels's estimation at least 20 variant covers, all of which fall into the category of "Winnie the Pooh as Deadpool", "Winnie the Pooh as 8bit Deadpool, "Winnie the Pooh as Venomized Deadpool" "Winnie the Pooh as Deadpool Smoking Weed with Wolverine" "Winnie the Pooh as Spawn" "Winnie the Pooh as Spawn AND Venom" "Winnie the Pooh as Deadpool vs. Tigger Venom" "Winnie the Pooh as Aquaman" "Winnie the Pooh as Jason Momoa Aquaman" "Winnie the Pooh as Jason Momoa Aquaman and Also Gold Foil" etc. It's a baffling Just Two Things grift but I guess harmless. His follow-up series Notti & Nyce is the same concept except all of their dozens of "Two Bad Girls in Freddy and Jason cosplay" "Two Bad Girls in Han Solo and Boba Fett Cosplay" "Two Bad Girls homaging an old Jim Lee X-Men or Todd McFarlane Spider-Man Cover" come in varying levels of explicit nudity. Some of them aren't parodies, they're just Two Bad Girls licking lollipops or getting fingered by Santa or whatever. Mychaels has finally merged these two things in what caught my eye and I have to imagine is going to get him sued sooner than later: quote:Hardlee Thinn is a parody book of Harley Quinn. After being kicked out her own comic for being too "voluptuous" Hardlee get's payback in her own unique way. Counterpoint doesn't publish their comics digitally (or even in an edition where the single issue costs less than $25) so I have no idea what the parody inside is, but essentially the gimmick is "what if Harley Quinn had like, really big breasts? And sometimes she showed them on nude variant covers?". Unlike the Winnie the Pooh/Deadpool thing, 90% of the Hardlee Thinn covers are just more sexually explicit (or big breasted) re-draws of existing Harley Quinn comic books, except Terry Dodson/Adam Hughes/Amanda Conner never actually had Harl--I mean Hardlee's boobs pop out of her tank top. Just GIS or eBay any of these three titles, it's something else.
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I agree that it's pretty harmless, I was just sort of surprised Counterpoint exists and it hearkens back to a more innocent time for lovely Comics Controversy where it was just Frank Cho doing lovely sketch covers and not whatever the hell Richard Meyers/Mike S. Miller/Ethan Van Sciver are doing today. I think the big issue (and the only case I can remember of actual action being taken) was when Marvel went after Gary Friedrich (a writer) for selling prints of actual Ghost Rider comic book covers that he did not draw and in some cases did not write the interior story for, and even that was largely because he was doing so while sitting at a booth reading CREATOR OF GHOST RIDER while suing Marvel for ownership of Ghost Rider. Then there was a lot of talk and concern between creators, but the general consensus appeared to be: -- Rob Liefeld selling sketches of Deadpool: 100% okay -- Rob Liefeld selling prints of original sketches of Deadpool: Not 100% legal, but no action has ever been taken against it to my knowledge* *The one actual story I remember about someone in Artists' Alley getting in trouble (and possibly the other instance where cons might have started putting in language of a 'crackdown' aside from the Friedrich case) was a story of an artist who never worked for the big two getting yelled at (but not sued) by Paul Levitz for selling a print of Silver Age Teen Titans pulling a Porky's and watching Wonder Woman in the shower or something like that. Levitz (and by extension DC, where Levitz was the publisher at the time) seemed upset about Artists' Alley having a lot of softcore porn prints of their characters, and even then their ire seemed to be targeted at a few specific people, and not even people like a Frank Cho or Ed Benes or Clay Mann or Jim Balent who had a track record of getting paid to draw 'sexy' characters for DC. This would appear to be the loophole that Mychaels and company appear to be trying to exploit. --Rob Liefeld selling prints of the cover of New Mutants #98: Not at all legal but I think Marvel will provide/make prints of any cover an artist has done for them for them to sell/sign at cons (I know Paolo Rivera did this and it seemed to work fine for him, also other artists but Rivera is the one I personally spoke to about it) --Fabian Nicieza selling prints of Rob Liefeld Deadpool covers while suing Marvel for ownership of Deadpool: Definitely not okay The controversy about this (which I want to say was like 2010-2012?) was also muddied because some artists -- most prominently Sean Murphy -- took this as a well intentioned but confusing moment to tout the concept of creator-owned comics and not working to service trademarks for the Pervert Suit Nurse Novel Ammonite Pimp Big Two, because if you make your name drawing Batman people will only want sketches of Batman and Slime Warner could steal that all away from your in a heartbeat, but if you create your own character like Punk Rock Jesus you will own him forever and all of your sketches and prints of Punk Rock Jesus will be yours for all time. Which is a valid point but the way the argument was made gave people the impression that DC had in fact cracked down on him ever drawing Batman again, as opposed to it being a personal choice . He also went back and did a Batman series for DC, prints of which are now available for sale on Murphy's website and presumably at his Artists Alley table as well. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Mar 3, 2019 |
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Didn’t RT just implement something to prevent review bombing though? That had already been testing in the background for a year? quote:Rotten Tomatoes will now open comments after a film’s premiere, and it’s not changing the way users can review films — ideally, once people start watching the movie, their good-faith positive and negative reviews will eclipse the bad-faith commentary from people who haven’t seen it and don’t intend to. Rotten Tomatoes still has moderators scan for suspicious reviews and remove them after release, though, and the spokesperson says it’s mulling an equivalent to Amazon’s “verified purchase” badge, which reviewers could get if they bought tickets through Fandango. Seems like they've hit up Metacritic as well!
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That entire exchange was kind of crazy, Claire was in full snark mode and drew some frankly confusing conclusions/assumptions about a mediocre-to-bad cover to a mediocre-to-bad comic. Dan Panosian namesearched and defended himself in a way that was not a great look (in terms of namesearching/mansplaining) but wasn't all that terrible, and Claire went full snarkfest in response, but even then Panosian wouldn't drop it but seemed to be acting in misguided good faith or at least not actively antagonizing/lovely faith. And then someone Frank Tieri bulldozed his way in and started threatening to punch people and telling everyone who disagrees they could go gently caress themselves and suck his dick because he's Fuckin' Frank Tieri, literally one of the only consistently employed Big Two comic creators that I have literally never met/heard of a vocal fan of. Say what you want about Rob Liefeld or Jeph Loeb or Greg Land or Scott Lobdell or Chuck Dixon or anyone else, you know there are people out there who remember and enjoy their work.
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Mar 9, 2019 05:25
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To be clear I agree that Frank Tieri has no avowed association with Comicsgate he's just an almost unbelievably forgettable/subpar but prolific writer who is apparently also an Internet Tough Guy and the person yelling "go gently caress yourself, drop a pin and I'll fight you for not liking my comic you pussy" could easily be swept up in a CG blockfest depending on the circumstances.
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Oh wait, I remember the other memorable/'memorable' Frank Tieri comic! This was an 'answer' comic to an issue of Ennis/McCrea's Punisher (the Marvel Knights borderline comedy Ennis Punisher, not the serious Punisher MAX series) that featured essentially a caricature of Wolverine as a feral drunk bumbler who injected "Snikt" into every conversation and eventually gets run over with a steamroller if the entire cartoonish theme was not obvious enough. But you see, Tieri was writing Wolverine at the time and needed to show THE OTHER SIDE of things. quote:Punisher starts at Logan’s last sentence. Wolverine checks the bag, finding a magazine of homosexual pornography. Wolverine laughs and tells Punisher “You were makin’ fun a’ me fer wearin’ yellow tights? Hmm… makes sense, now that I think about it… You’re single, neat, very organized…” Punisher replies with a choked “…suspects… always looking for suspects…” Wolverine throws the magazine on the barely conscious Punisher and walks away. I remember something he wrote!
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