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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Gamergate was a warmup for the current US political climate so by all measures it was incredibly successful.

Like who do we know who's constantly blaming and demonizing journalists and minority voices for any problem while empowering corporations and bigots?

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Ror posted:

Someone just donated 18k to it. I don't know if it's funnier/more pathetic that someone is stuffing the ballot box that hard or if some insane person actually believes in CG to the tune of thousands of dollars.

Maybe the Koch brothers see it as an angel investment.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Personally the reason I never read anime people as asian as a kid was because they all had blonde/red/brown hair. If all the characters in Sailor Moon had jet black hair I probably woulda figured it out.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


CharlestheHammer posted:

What? Comics have fan service to, that’s what everyone calls it. Is anime the first time you’ve ever heard that term? Because comics was the first place I heard it.

People didn't call titties fan service until the anime subculture blew up in the early 90s. Before then, Fan Service was things like Spock showing up in an episode of TNG: something that isn't necessarily serving the story but it's a thing fans of something are happy to see regardless of context. Like easter eggs, almost.

People used to call blatant T&A "cheesecake", but then horrible anime fans started using the term fanservice for no reason I can discern, and it spread from there. It doesn't make sense really, because it kind of makes you look bad if you use it. If panty shots are fan service, what does it say about the fans?


Lol gently caress off.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Nov 13, 2018

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Kai Tave posted:

Remember after Roseanne got taken off the air and conservatives were threatening to get Bill Maher taken off the air in revenge and everyone was like "two for one deal, yes please."

That was the best.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


New Atheism is entirely made up of neo-reactionaries and was one of the pillars of online toxic thought from which the alt-right emerged. Bill Maher is a perfect example of that kind of dipshit: perfectly willing to criticize organized religion, but then goes on to decide that religion itself is a sign of stupidity and weakness, and therefore any nation or culture more devout than his own is inferior and evil.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


The vast majority of the right defines their political enemies as "anyone who talks poo poo about my guys", not by their actual political views.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Gynovore posted:

Lefties think that everyone who doesn't agree with them is far right, and vice versa.

That might be the most inaccurate thing said about the left in a long time.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


There's a pretty easy out to being a nazi, it's called not being a nazi anymore and saying "Sorry I was a nazi, I hate nazis now". No one is branded for life for having a bad ideology unless they stand by it (or commit actual hate crimes in its name obviously).

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

the problem is that "actually, no, queer people shouldn't be put to death" isn't what those people are hearing, because our messaging loving sucks.

the only leftists your average nerdo is likely to see outside of explicitly leftist spaces, because of the magic of algorithms and propaganda, are the legit unhinged ones saying things like "all the non-black people who died in 9/11 deserved it" and "people should be tortured to death in gulags for having TVs." because the right actively seeks that poo poo out and spams it everywhere as "proof" that the left are the real enemy, despite the nutty folks being generally a pretty tiny minority of the left. and then, because right-wingers really like masking themselves as "apolitical," social media algorithms spread that poo poo way, way wider than stuff that's explicitly noted as political content.

we really need to work on getting the actual meat of our message out there instead of letting right-wingers and actual crazy people dominate the narrative. we're taking steps in the right direction, as evidenced by people like Bernie and AOC being way more popular than they would've been a decade ago, but we need to take bigger steps, as evidenced by our big fuckin' nazi problem.

None of what you're describing is an issue with the left's messaging, it's an issue with corporations run by right wingers, libertarians and outright nazis holding the reins of every modern media platform. There's nothing we can do to prevent Sargon of Akkad from finding the ugliest person with pink hair and bad political opinions on youtube and editing them out of context to make them seem outright insane.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


The left's problem is that everyone who is supposed to represent us is financially incentivized to do the opposite.

It's insane how much time and energy is wasted in trying to repackage our messaging, as if the perfect argument is gonna convince a Trump voter to suddenly support unions.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


E: Not worth it.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Nov 23, 2018

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


site posted:

Considering that I've seen screens of chuds saying Jews should be thrown in ovens and Twitter support says it doesn't break the rules long after hate speech was banned I'll believe it when I see it

Yeah, twitter's terms of service were never the issue, it was the extremely biased, selective and lazy way those terms are enforced that's turned it into a cesspit of harassment and hate speech.


Nice reg date, buddy.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Gynovore posted:

Haha very funny. You reged a week ago and already you're making GBS threads up the thread like a pro.

Who's taking bets on who this guy really is? Maybe Dare? Jon Pop?

It's definitely Death Ray.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Remember that time Fragmaster was admin and unbanned Keep It Real?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


joehonkie posted:

I feel like cross-dressing and trans characters are an old staple of anime, although I wouldn't have a broad field of knowledge here.

It is, even though most of them aren't transgender in the way we'd think of it nowadays. Ranma 1/2 is an obvious example of mangas and animes from back in the day dealing with such themes.

Next these idiots will be complaining that the SJWs put giant robots in there.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I'm friends with people who work in official translations of various manga and anime, and people assigning malicious motives to them and assuming that they're messing with the integrity of the work (despite not knowing even rudimentary japanese and having no way to check) is nothing new. Idiots will swear by fan translations that have horrendous grammar and get every other word wrong as the "true" version of the anime simply because it seems more japanesey to them to use bad sentence construction.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I'm hardly an expert but as I understand it, there are a lot of subcultures in Japan that defy gender norms and they've existed for a long time. Japan's mainstream society is very patriarchal, traditionalist and sexist (though getting better in recent decades), but there are corners of pop culture and subcultures that have pushed back heavily against this norm and have substantial followings. I'm sure anime's explorations of the subjects have some relation to these groups.

Korea has similar subcultures that are even more accepted in the mainstream. There's probably books and documentaries about these topics out there, I just have no idea where.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


The Bride Was a Boy is super adorable.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


If I created Dust I wouldn't brag about that poo poo.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


We are homestuck with that bullshit comic for at least another decade, so anti-semitic world war 2 fanfiction appearing under the label is cause for concern, especially since a lot of the fans are still relatively young and impressionable.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Oh no, someone targeted by comicsgate is kind of lovely. I guess we were the real racists the whole time.

If only it was possible to hate two people at the same time.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Archyduchess posted:

I have no idea what this is in response too, I don't think anyone in this thread was at all suggesting that comicsgate was right about, um, anything ever.

I'm talking about those tweets that are inexplicably indicting everyone who's anti-comicsgate for this creator's actions, as if saying harrassment campaigns are bad somehow means we endorse everything the creators do.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


It is a crime that the name "cyber frog" will forever be associated with CHUDs. It's an inherently pleasing combination of words.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Can I just say that someone who won't shut up about women being satan doing creepy sex stuff with an underage girl is the least surprising thing ever?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


PoontifexMacksimus posted:

Hm, is there a different phrase for misgendering someone as trans when they aren't? Or the same phraseology?

I mean, the accuser is obviously transphobic either way, just rarely had the occasion to consider what is respective when someone is called trans who isn't.

Much like reverse racism is not a thing, misgendering is just misgendering no matter what direction you do it in. Things like this are helpful because they can be used to demonstrate how transphobic mindsets hurt cis people too. You can always count on the gators to be the goofus to our gallant.

Skwirl posted:

Comics gate is going full QAnon with Renfamous.

https://twitter.com/NewportAntifa/status/1093223529506582528?s=19

I think it's somehow tied on with that frivolous lawsuit against Mark Waid for Avalanche dropping some alt right book.


https://twitter.com/NewportAntifa/status/1093307151257399296

:thunk:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Jedit posted:

E: but you can Google "Zak Sabbath" and whatever it is it's hardly shocking considering he's an ex-adult film worker who uses pictures of his "partners" in his art.

Man, the porn and erotica industry is full of abuse but I still think that's painting with too broad a brush.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


To say the loving least.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Lotta people with Punisher avatars rushing into the replies with bad takes.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Dawgstar posted:

Have they come out and proudly declared Cates a CG supporter for essentially not wanting somebody to die? It felt like it was trending that way when I stopped.

Pretty much.

Dawgstar posted:

Simeti's Alterna Comics is a CG-adjacent indie publisher.

Didn't he ultimately drop the bad alt-right comic?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



Cosplay culture is full of "Photographers" who are huge creeps trying to either sleep with their models or pull poo poo like this. I'm not saying every single one, obviously, but it's happened before, a lot. What sucks is that the public get 100 times angrier at a popular cosplayer who shows a lot of skin than they do at creepazoids like this.


Shoulda known when the coordinated takes started popping up 10 minutes after it 'happened'.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Doctor Spaceman posted:

He's a Canadian academic / self-help guru who provides a thin veneer of respectability for the alt-right.

He is also a deeply strange person.



CharlestheHammer posted:

I don’t think anything that makes him famous is involved in his academic field. So it’s kind of irrelevant

Yeah it's one of those Dr. Laura scenarios. He has no qualifications at all to make the sweeping sociological and political statements he does.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Feb 20, 2019

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


This is an exceedingly stupid derail.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I hadn't even considered that stupid DC fans would get in on this vilifying of the Captain Marvel movie just because it threatens Wonder Woman's status as Only Successful Female Superhero Film. That is really pathetic.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


This is absolutely the stupidest thing ever. Eddie and the symbiote's relationship has always been hosed up and abusive because both of them are bad people. That's why combining turns them into an even worse person.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


That's not true, lots of people self-identify as Stans. And then they post gifs that I don't understand of ladies being sassy.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Puppy Time posted:

Lots of people self-identify as SJWs. Probably an overlap between the two on a Venn Diagram.

Social Justice is not a pejorative term.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


SilverSupernova posted:

Its one of those terms that once only referred to the people at the extreme end of the scale and eventually evolved to more or less become a blanket term for "anyone expecting basic human decency from me."

I'm sorry to inform you that there was never a time where SJW was a term used to describe only "the extreme" elements of people who want society to not be terrible. From day one the negative associations with the term social justice came from bad faith right wingers and racists.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Dawgstar posted:

Speaking of pejoratives and slurs, if I see somebody (and they're a CG-er, so already a Clue) complain somebody else is going 'REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!' or similar that's also them trying to claim the person is autistic, right?

It is, but most of them will just flat out call you an autist so it's not much of a dogwhistle.

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


The n-word isn't racist it's in the dictionary idiot.

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