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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
PJ, consider the word "collaborator" in place of cooperator, since it's commonly used already and carries the meaning you want.

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Cadaver_Maclaine posted:

Hrm. I hope you're not underestimating the problem. The others may not go as quietly as you think. Intelligence indicates they're behind the problems in Paris.

We've had to endure much, you and I, but within the week there will be old men running the world!

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Behind the Bastards had a good episode about the Krassensteins that also covered Jacob Wohl.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Cactus posted:

I'd be interested to see some examples of how the ruling classes deliberately and willfully nurture these weaknesses that western societies have against social media manipulation. I'm asking in good faith. Why would people at the top of a society strive to weaken the very society that enables them to live a privileged life at the top of it?

Aleph Null, what are you driving at?

This is exactly what the Republicans have been doing for fifty years. Fox News is the most visible form of it, but the GOP has been selling itself the idea that only straight, white, cisgender, wealthy people are really people, and that the law should exist to empower them and punish everybody else and for no other reason, for a long time. They've been working to produce the current situation of instability for a long time, and it's now bearing fruit.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

E-Tank posted:

So uhh. . .Prester's twitter account got suspended. . .You okay PJ?

There's a bunch of TERFs who coordinate to mass-report trans people and Twitter is fine with it, so when a trans person gets banned I assume that's what's going on.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Pizzagate doesn't follow directly from Seth Rich; it was based on channers reading poo poo into the Podesta emails. The Seth Rich conspiracy theory was an effort to muddy the waters of those emails' provenance.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
BuzzFeed just this morning released a recording of Russian government spooks secretly meeting with representatives of Italy's largest right-wing party to discuss funnelling millions of dollars in Russian oil money into funding that party. Putin and his people are actively doing shady conspiracy poo poo to advance the cause of fascism in many countries. Reflexive dismissal is no longer justifiable.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
Conservatism, which reinforces, defends, and seeks to expand existing hierarchies, is not anti-capitalist. Conservative Christianity, which jettisons everything credible or praiseworthy about Christianity in favor of depicting all existing hierarchies as analogues of the Master-Servant relationship between God and Man, is especially not a challenge to capitalism; it is the dominant ideology of capitalism. It doesn't want to create or sustain communities, it wants to define communities as hierarchies of dominance and power that are not in any sense incompatible with the atomized world capitalism seeks to build.

Don't conflate liberal and conservative religion in your analysis; they are weapons aimed at different targets

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
The Southern Baptists literally exist because they wanted slavery.

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Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Pope Guilty posted:

The Southern Baptists literally exist because they wanted slavery.

And now the United Methodists are schisming because a lot of them are angry that LGBT people exist and a lot of them aren't.

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