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Crabtree posted:What exactly did Slayers do right that Lost Universe did so, so wrong? not be so insanely unfinished that one of the episodes contained a scene in which the scene literally turned into storyboards
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Slayers is good as hell, and my favorite anime.
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Oct 25, 2018 18:28
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P-Mack posted:All seasons are on crunchy, but for some reason it puts next/try as seasons two and three of Slayers but revolution as a separate entry. Ah, my mistake then. Though with Crunchyroll ending it's contract with Funimation soon it's possible those shows won't be up for much longer, hence the reason why I mentioned the YouTube channel.
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Oct 25, 2018 18:42
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 they could probably just use this recap for every episode
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Does any decent quality exist of the stuff where she's with Naga? I remember trying to watch all of Slayers way back since it was my introduction to anime and my favorite thing ever since I was also into D&D at the time, but nearly everything I found was like 240x120 real media format crap that was barely watchable.
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I'm always bummed out there wasn't like a goofy mock Dragon Quest video game for Slayers. Or at least one that released in the West. I'd love to make a Create a Character that just gets roped by Lina into a disastrous cavalcade of stupidity across the land.
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Crabtree posted:I'm always bummed out there wasn't like a goofy mock Dragon Quest video game for Slayers. Or at least one that released in the West. I'd love to make a Create a Character that just gets roped by Lina into a disastrous cavalcade of stupidity across the land.
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There is a SNES Slayers game that got a romhack translation. The story ends up pulling one over you too. Don't read it you don't mind a bit of spoiling: While the game starts you out as Lina Inverse, you start off strangely weak and everyone comments on this, but it turns out you are a Lina clone and the real Lina is max level wrecking havoc around the countryside while you do the mainplot. So you can eventually team up with Lina as Lina. It's great.
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Oh wow what a good thread, I am going to rewatch Slayers. I like the OP that pointed out the OP only character. Lina is cool.
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When I first heard Rezo, I thought it wasn't possible that Takehito Koyasu has been voice acting for that long, but it turns out he's been voice acting for like thirty years.
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    50 episodes of Kenshin waiting for this and it never happened, but Slayers delivers.
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It's one of the best jokes, but is that also the only joke Zelgadiss actually delivers?
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Mordaedil posted:It's one of the best jokes, but is that also the only joke Zelgadiss actually delivers? I dunno, but it's the same sword he's had for the whole series so he's clearly just being a dick.
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Oct 28, 2018 02:52
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That was my favorite Slayers moment, it loving killed me when I first saw it, and I haven't watched Slayers in like 15 years so it's also one of the few moments that remains clearly in my memory. That and GOOD WILL TOWARDS ALL MEN PUNCH! or whatever it was
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P-Mack posted:I dunno, but it's the same sword he's had for the whole series so he's clearly just being a dick. I like to think the joke is he never noticed an murdered a bunch of people by accident and only now just realized it.
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Oct 28, 2018 07:17
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I forget how Evolution-R ended but given the setup of the show and the fact that I don't believe any of the main characters besides maybe Zelgadis have a specific end goal in mind they could honestly just keep this concept going forever if they wanted (I still kind of want to see at least one more season at any rate).
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P-Mack posted:
It's basically a perfect joke. quote:It's one of the best jokes, but is that also the only joke Zelgadiss actually delivers? None quite as stunning, but he does some punchlines to manzai bits.
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Oct 28, 2018 14:30
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 Fun fact: Magical capacity on par with Lina, but too dumb to make use of it.
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Crabtree posted:I'm always bummed out there wasn't like a goofy mock Dragon Quest video game for Slayers. Or at least one that released in the West. I'd love to make a Create a Character that just gets roped by Lina into a disastrous cavalcade of stupidity across the land. Funny enough I saw a copy of the D20 Slayers rulebook at the local bookstore. It's amazing how big the series got in the west.
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fish slayer
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Oct 28, 2018 15:17
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Zelgadiss is usually the unwilling straight man while Xellos is typically pure troll, willing straightman if poo poo goes wrong.
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Oct 29, 2018 00:51
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xellos was a weird character who stuck around long after it stopped making sense
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Well he was the proto Brock.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:xellos was a weird character who stuck around long after it stopped making sense I forget, did we ever really learn what his deal was? It seems like he both helped and hindered the group as he saw fit.
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Hey so elephant in the room but can we talk about, you know, the other thing with slayer in the name? I mean normally I'd  because we're all adults here and nobody gets up in arms about brutal violence in their media but it's also kind of explicitly pornographic so I can see why there might be an issue.Assuming there's even anything to talk about, that is. i mean it's not exactly well-known (i wouldn't even have heard of it if it wasn't for Gen Urobuchi's name being attached)
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a computing pun posted:Hey so elephant in the room but can we talk about, you know, the other thing with slayer in the name? I mean normally I'd I wouldn't call Ninja Slayer explicitly pornographic just because it's animated by Trigger.
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Larryb posted:I forget, did we ever really learn what his deal was? It seems like he both helped and hindered the group as he saw fit.
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Larryb posted:I forget, did we ever really learn what his deal was? It seems like he both helped and hindered the group as he saw fit. he was one of the mazoku priests, who were just below the generals. i don't think the general he worked for ever showed up? maybe they were in the notorious illustration in the last book. xellos wasn't conflicted or anything; he was dedicated to reviving shabranigdu and destroying the world like any other mazoku. he was just focused on big grandiose plans toward that end instead of killing lina, which is something he was definitely capable of doing at any time.
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Ah, I wasn't entirely clear whether he was actually supposed to be a villain or not. As I recall there are actually a few characters that still have yet to make an appearance (in animated form at least), Deep Sea Dolphin is another example.
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book spoilers: dolphin and i guess zelas showed up very, very briefly in the last book and did nothing of note. they were just kind of there.
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Are the novels still going? I know one came out just recently but I don't know for sure if the series has been officially ended/abandoned just yet. Regardless, there's still probably enough material out there for another season or two of anime content should they ever feel like coming back to it at some point (or even just flat out make something up like they did with Try). Though on that note, how well did the series actually do in Japan? Larryb fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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Larryb posted:Are the novels still going? I know one came out just recently but I don't know for sure if the series has been officially ended/abandoned just yet. There hasn't been any mention of the 16th volume being the final volume, so there is probably going to be more novels coming out. Also, the latest novel got immediate reprints, so its presumably doing really well.
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Jon Joe posted:I wouldn't call Ninja Slayer explicitly pornographic just because it's animated by Trigger. He means Kikokugai: The Cyber Slayer Which like many porn games (Fate, Demonbane) has a non-porn updated release.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:There hasn't been any mention of the 16th volume being the final volume, so there is probably going to be more novels coming out. Also, the latest novel got immediate reprints, so its presumably doing really well. Good, hope that means an anime revival is in the cards at some point as I really want to see more of this series. Also as far as I can remember both the Japanese and English voice casts are more or less equally good in this regard. Larryb fucked around with this message at 12:47 on Oct 29, 2018 |
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Brought To You By posted:Funny enough I saw a copy of the D20 Slayers rulebook at the local bookstore. It's amazing how big the series got in the west. I have that book and I'd love to play with it at some point, but generally I have a rough enough time getting people to play D&D in the first place.
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Since we're on the subject of D&D, one thing I do find interesting in the setting of GS, if not the show itself, is Truth and Illusion, and how they represent a lovely DM and a good DM respectively. Some context, since they aren't present in the anime or manga, Truth and Illusion are the two big 'Gods' of the setting, there are other deities that roll at the metaphysical table, but they're the ones who hold the keys. Truth is a bad DM, he revels in the deaths of adventurers facing overwhelming, unfair odds. He wakes up the demon lord and ups the Goblin population because misery and suffering are what makes him think of a 'fun' game. He gets a kick not just out of the deaths of adventurers but watching them struggle through his unfair bullshit. Ultimately he's not hosting the game for the players, he's hosting the game for him. He's bullshit to be around but he owns the store, and it's the only store in town, and literally, no one else wants to GM, and if anyone tries he inserts himself into the game... You've all played with this fuckwit once if you've sat a table. They make you want to not play the game. He's the guy who whispers to the players "Hey, I'll give you more rewards if you look all the treasure before the party gets there, or you stab them in the back." Illusion is the opposite, a good DM. She believes that fun is to be had when a well-balanced party, has a well-balanced adventure, against a well-balanced challenge, that they get an adequate reward from. She wants the adventurers she champion's to be having fun. She wants their fates to be happy and genuine and exciting, She throws festivals and doesn't believe she's doing a good job unless people are having fun. The Gods don't actually directly control anyone, this is not a game, they made this world, and they are essentially the twin controllers of fate for those who inhabit it. Anything that doesn't have a reasonable explanation like... Why was suddenly a super difficult quest, why was there a beholder and poison traps and horrible things that shouldn't be fought by a level 1 party? That's Truth's direct interference. The God's can choose to champion an inhabitant of the world, Illusion first wants to champion Priestess, and then moves on to Chosen Heroine... because, in the first episode/quest/whatever, she rolled a 1 on the Dice of Chance that dictates the fates of those you choose to champion. Which is... the in-story actual reason why the first party got TPKed. I don't know why this info, which provides... a lot of context, isn't in the anime or manga. They mention the Gods as people rolling the dice, but a lot of people think GS and etc. are people at the table, and this is a game. No, it's just Gods treating people's lives like their game. I don't think this info would change anyone's mind, if you found it distasteful before, like... it doesn't make it more tasteful. I just found the concept neat, because I myself haven't really seen a similar idea, since the Animorph books Crayak and Ellimist. Now, back to Slayers talk... You know I don't think I've actually had a chance to really experience Slayers outside of clips and screen grabs. I've experienced RoLW, but no Slayers... Well, I need something else to watch this season besides Jojo, so that gives me something to do!
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tbh i feel like there's no real need for a separate slayers system since slayers is pretty explicitly just an anime based on a d&d game. like lina's a wizard, gourry's a fighter, I guess zel'd be a warlock, you don't really need to homebrew anything even
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Endorph posted:tbh i feel like there's no real need for a separate slayers system since slayers is pretty explicitly just an anime based on a d&d game. like lina's a wizard, gourry's a fighter, I guess zel'd be a warlock, you don't really need to homebrew anything even Was Slayer's based more on D&D or Sword World actually?
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Endorph posted:tbh i feel like there's no real need for a separate slayers system since slayers is pretty explicitly just an anime based on a d&d game. like lina's a wizard, gourry's a fighter, I guess zel'd be a warlock, you don't really need to homebrew anything even And Amelia's the White Mage/Paladin. But yeah, this is basically D&D as it is and they could potentially keep this concept going forever if they wanted.
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It always felt more D&D to me. I really love the world building and mechanics that come with it. Like the spell Gaav Flare, no longer working after Gaav has been killed. Since the spell can no longer channel the power of said character. Also Dragon Slave might be the best goddamn black magic spell of all time.
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