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The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Al Borland Corpse posted:

Well it's not like we have crops rotting in the field and plants unable to fulfill orders due to tariffs.

Wait, we DO have that?

Why the hell do you think Dems did so well in Kansas?

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 13:41

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

SirPablo posted:

https://twitter.com/brahmresnik/status/1060189466474635265?s=20

That would be a nice surprise

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 16:22

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Dick Trauma posted:

https://twitter.com/iamdezra/status/1060165557218091015

Beto did good, I hope Dems can hold onto a lot of the blue urban areas in 2020

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 16:25

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Al Borland Corpse posted:

Hmm, all these black women overperformed in their elections, you know who should run? The white guy who lost

Beto would be a good VP

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 16:38

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

sean10mm posted:

The electorate breaking D+9 is great news FOR REPUBLICANS LOL

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:08

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

TBH, Dems need to run on school funding in 2020, it's the kind of message that works great pretty much every where and encompasses a lot of popular progressive policies.

That and UHC should be a winning message

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:19

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

CuddleCryptid posted:

Man, can you drowsy ducks be happy for five minutes

No, we're broken

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:23

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

I think the Senate would be better if we gave every state 3 senators and one was reelected every cycle. That would mean every state voted for a senator, so a wave wouldn't have to worry about a bad map.

Probably an easier sell than killing the senate

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:31

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Nemo Somen posted:

So I want to make sure I have the proper takes from last night.

The bad:

Regaining the Senate in 2020 seems like it’ll be difficult.

Losing a number of high profile races

Big divide between Senate and House, and Senate is more meaningful

The Good:

Florida regained a lot of voters

Large Dem support (+7%)

Support will likely to grow due to lack of outlet.

Massive turnout for a midterm; will hopefully apply to a presidential election

Good results for progressive dems, may lead Dems to stop trying to pursue moderate conservatives

Can now stop parts of conservative legislative agenda

Some traditionally conservative places went for Dems

Investigations are now available

Are there any notable takeaways that I'm missing?

Scott Walker ate poo poo

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:32

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

CuddleCryptid posted:

Lots of good proposals passed and some bad ones.

Anti gerrymandering and voter suppression ones good, weed good, abortion bans bad

Los Angeles and SF both passed huge ballot initiatives to help the homeless and low income families

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:37

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

XyrlocShammypants posted:

Tester has won, he is in the lead and can’t lose it based on remaining votes!

Yay

Thanks for being the best of the blue dogs

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:38

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Fart Amplifier posted:

The biggest, most important takeaway from last night has got to be how difficult it is going to be to fix the federal judiciary going forward. I don't really see how anything matters as much as that.

The judiciary has been conservative as hell since the 70s, it's not a huge change from the status quo. But RBG needs to keep eating her kale

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:43

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Blitz7x posted:

I literally can't believe this guy is my new representative. He's more cartoony than the bigfoot porn guy

https://twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/973026837742923777

I know literally nothing about him, but that picture owns

But he probably racist as gently caress

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:47

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Apraxin posted:

https://twitter.com/brahmresnik/status/1060206366541762560
Also, MT electorate is small enough that I'm pretty sure a 2k lead is enough for a +0.5% margin, so it it holds there might not be a recount.

If Sinema pulls it off, I'll feel way better going into 2020

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 17:51

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Unoriginal Name posted:

So we can defund ICE with budget control now, right?

Kinda

We can do it in the house, but no certainties on that being able to pass the Senate. It will probably result in decreased funding and a lot rules to prevent the shifting of money around inside of DHS

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 18:15

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Harrow posted:

Yeah, I can't see him even trying to turn a Senate loss into a presidential nomination, but I think he'd be an excellent VP pick. He's been awesome at supporting downticket candidates, organizing, and delivering a strong message, which are all things a good VP can do to have a big impact.

I wonder if one of the front runners will try to lock up a deal with him early and try to win the primary as a package deal?

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 19:23

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Failed Imagineer posted:

2020 Bernie/Barbara Lee.

But who am I kidding, it'll be Warren and some gigantic waste like Tim Kaine lmao

Tim Kaine was to shore up Virginia, but at this point, Virginia doesn't need shoring up.

Pander posted:

2020 Waters/Beto

I loving wish

But to be honest, there is an entire thread about the 2020 primaries, we should probably take a lot of this chat over there

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 19:45

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Lets atleast give it a shot, for a week or 2. Worst case scenario is we make a new Trump thread next week

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 22:52

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Groovelord Neato posted:

chuck schumer needs to go so loving bad.

I cant wait for AOC to primary the poo poo out of him in 2022

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 23:06

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Lightning Knight posted:

I think they need to get around the perception that Democrats are Outsider Others. Ojeda, for example, in WV, had the right kind of tone and authenticity but lost imo because his actual platform wasn't particularly impressive or radical. He talked the talk but didn't walk the walk. Somebody with the platform of AOC but the demeanor of Ojeda would sweep WV.

This is a big issue with candidate recruitment, especially in red states, the party is so depleted that they're happy to run empty suits who can largely self-finance. So, the party just looks for the kind of boring people who are already rich, rather than picking for charisma. If Beto can teach us anything, its that charisma needs to be at the top of the list when recruiting candidates.

This is also part of why Beto will matter, he helped the Texas Democratic party build a bench of people with an office they can put next to their name.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 23:21

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

How many Republican Senators in blue states are up for election in 2020?

I posted a big write up in State and Local thread, I'll cross post it

The Glumslinger posted:

A guide to the 2020 Senate race

This the Senate class 2, which was last up for reelection in 2014, a small Republican wave year.
Lets go through every race and see whats going on with it. I don't know everyone super well, but I'm gonna do my best

Alabama
Incumbent: Doug Jones (D)
As we all remember, Doug Jones won an extremely close special election to replace Jeff Sessions. Doug is a centrist democrat who is pro-choice and pro-healthcare. He managed to win on the back of promising to reauthorize CHIP (which he did) and because his opponent was an insane pedophile. Barring a similar kind of own goal by Republicans, this seat will almost certainly go red. I wouldn't be shocked if Jeff Sessions tried to win this seat after he gets kicked to the curb by Trump.

Alaska
Incumbent: Dan Sullivan (R)
He won a fairly close race in 2014, beating previous incumbent Mark Begich by 2%. Seems like a tough seat to flip, but Alaska is weird.

Arkansas
Incumbent: Tom Cotton (R)
rear end in a top hat of the highest order and a Trump toadie. Absolutely murdered the previous incumbent Dem (Mark Pryor) by 17% in 2014. Expect him to cruise to victory unless he is an idiot who decided to leave a safe senate seat for a cabinet position.

Colorado
Incumbent: Cory Gardner (R)
Kinda middle of the road republican who seems like he does his best to never get talked about at all. Beat a Democratic incumbent (Mark Udall) by about 2% in 2014. Colorado has continued to shift blue since then and if Democrats have any chance at all to retake the Senate, this is a must win seat.

Delaware
Incumbent: Chris Coons (D)
Very moderate democratic from a blue state, but a very good gun control record. Won the special election 2010 to replace Biden, and has won by 17% and 14%. Expect a primary challenge from the left, but I expect he'll be in the Senate for as long as he wants.

Georgia
Incumbent: Dave Perdue (R)
From a big time politically connect family in Georgie, his brother is a former governor and current a cabinet member. Replaced Saxby Chambliss (R) after he retired in 2014, won the election by about 8%. Georgia is gonna be a voting rights hell hole under Kemp, but I wouldn't be shocked if Abrams tried to see if she can get over the hump in a presidential year. Could possibly flip, but not likely.

Idaho
Incumbent: Jim Risch (R)
Never heard of him, so he isn't a an rear end in a top hat on the front lines of the Trump offensive, but probably still sucks. Long time Idaho politician, starting as LT Governor in 03, followed by governor in 06. He replaced Larry Craid (R) in 08 after Craig got busted trying to solicit a male prostitute in a Minnesota airport bathroom. Abandon all hope ye who campaign here

Illinois
Incumbent: Dick Durbin (D)
Important Dem bigwig, #2 in the senate. Not super progressive, but he is ok. Voted against the Iraq war, major DREAM act backer. Been in the senate since 96, will be 75 by the time the 2020 election gets here. Its his seat to stroll into unless he decides to retire.

Iowa
Incumbent Joni Ernst (R)
Tea Party senator, you might remember her as the Hog Castration lady. After Tom Harkin (D) retired in 2014, she beat her challenger by 9%. This seat isn't as bad as it looks, 3/4 Iowa house seats went for Dems last night. They narrowly reelected a Republican governor last night, so it'll be tough. Iowa is gonna get a lot of attention from Dems due to the primary, so they might have a decent ground game to help put them over the edge if they can recruit someone good.

Kansas
Incumbent: Pat Roberts (R)
Major league rear end in a top hat. Been in the senate forever, going all the way back to 1996. However, don't write this seat off, Dems won an upset here last night and took a House seat and the governorship, plus a bunch of local level stuff. If they can help dig out Kansas from the hole Brownback put them in, it could be a good springboard for a Democratic challenger. Roberts is gonna be 84 by the time 2020 rolls around since he hasn't faced a real challenge in over a decade, so there is a chance he might retire which would help Dems even more. Gonna need to find an amazing recruit here though (Maybe Beto can move to Kansas )

Kentucky
Incumbent: Mitch McConnell (R)
Yertle the Turtle himself, IMO, the biggest villain in modern American politics. Current majority leader of the Senate, has completely rewritten the rules of how the Senate should function and has been a major Trump enabler. gently caress this jackass

Louisiana
Incumbent: Bill Cassidy (R)
Tea Party jackass, got into a fight with Jimmy Kimmel over the ACA repeal. Unseated incumbent Mary Landrieu (D) in 2014 by 11%. Louisiana didn't have a Governor or Senate race yesterday, so I can't see how it would fare in a wave election. Outside chance of being winnable if the Dems can find someone charismatic, but don't count on it

Maine
Incumbent: Susan Collins (R)
Female Jeff Flake, spent most of her career positioning herself as a moderate Republican, but showed her true colors during the Tax Cut and Kav hearings. Rumored to be retiring, this is a seat Dems need to win to take back the Senate. Dems won the governorship by 12% last night. Dems will nominate an empty suit in 2020 who will win a race that will be way closer than it should be.

Massachusetts
Incumbent: Ed Markey (D)
Middle of the road Dem, good supporter of Net Neutrality. Will be 74 by the time 2020 gets here, but I don't think he is gonna retire. Might get a primary challenge from the left if the Boston area progressives can find a good candidate.

Michigan
Incumbent: Gary Peters (D)
I've literally never heard of him . He managed to win in Michigan during the 2014 wave, so he must be doing something right. Voted for ACA, Cap and Trade, and DREAM Act while in the House. Wikipedia says he support Occupy Wall Street and that Liz Warren campaigned for him in 2014. Seems like a decent bloke, hopefully Michigan can stay sane and reelect him.

Minnesota
Incumbent: Tina Smith (D)
Tina has been in the Senate for like a year, so not much to be able to say on a national record. Bigwig on the state level DFL. She replaced Al Franken after he resigned and won her special election last night by about 10%

Mississippi
Incumbent: ????? (?)
Currently undecided, there was special election for this seat last night that is going to a run-off. Will probably be won by incumbent Hyde-Smith (R).

Montana
Incumbent: Steve Daines (R)
Empty suit republican rear end in a top hat, CHUD, etc. Prevented Liz Warren from reading a letter during the Sessions confirmation hearings. Maybe Montana can magic up another Tester and beat this rear end in a top hat?

Nebraska
Incumbent: Ben Sasse (R)
Young Jeff Flake/John McCain, a very concerned person who always votes with the orthodoxy. Voted against the Opioid crisis bill, anti-LGBT. Rumored to be considering trying to primary Trump in 2020, but I doubt it. Won 2014 by 34%. Democrats have won in Nebraska before, but the state was very red last night.

New Hampshire
Incumbent: Jeanne Shaheen (D)
Long time Democratic mover and shaker, going back to Carter. Helped Al Gore in the primaries back in 2000. Probably will receive a decent challenge from the Left. Won her senate seat in 2008 by 7% in 08 and 3% back in 14.

New Jersey
Incumbent: Cory Booker (D)
Eloquent black guy from New Jersey, good on social issues, bad on economic ones. Too close to banks and charter schools, wrote a very good federal weed legalization bill and signed onto the same M4A bill that a lot of democratic frontrunners have embraced. Will be a major player in the 2020 presidential primaries. If he loses the bid (and doesn't get VP), expect him to win easily.

New Mexico
Incumbent: Tom Udall (D)
Member of the important Udall Family. Voted for DADT repeal, DREAM act, and all of the other standard democratic stuff. Was early critic of NSA spying, even before Snowden. Might see a primary challenge, but I doubt it will have much of a chance. Won by 25% in 08 and 11% in 14.

North Carolina
Incumbent: Thom Tillis (R)
Decent dude for a Republican, was an influential Republican trying to get the Senate to pass the DREAM Act after Trump torpedoed DACA and is decent on LGBT rights. Backed a bill to protect Mueller. On the other hand, climate change denier and voted for the ACA repeal. I think he is basically a Blue Dog Republican. Won a very tight race in 2014 against incumbent Kay Hagan (D). Winnable in a wave year (Like we did in 08), NC might be the next Virginia.

Oklahoma
Incumbent: Jim Inhofe (R)
Old rear end proto-CHUD. Been the Senator from Oklahoma since 1994, and has been an awful person every day. Supports a constitutional amendment to stop gay marriage, actively fights climate change research, nearly killed himself and a bunch of airport workers when he nearly crashed his Cesna into a truck when he landed on a closed runway - He was 75 at the time. He then tried to punish the FAA for the whole incident. He is gonna be 85 by the time 2020 gets here, so don't be shocked if he gets replaced by a newer, younger CHUD.

Oregon
Incumbent: Jeff Merkley (D)
He seems like a cool dude and was the only Senator to endorse Bernie during the 2016 primary. Dark Horse 2020 presidential primary contestant, good track record but probably not enough name recognition. Maybe a solid VP pick for someone who wants a good progressive on the ticket. Root for him to get reelected, but he won't need much help. He won in 2014 by over 20%.

Rhode Island
Incumbent: Jack Reed (D)
I don't feel like he gets mentioned much, but he has been in the Senate since 96. Run of the mill democrat, good on a lot of positions, nothing that will really blow you away. Likes being in the Senate and supposedly turned down the VP gig when Obama sent out feelers. Will be 70 in 2020, so it'll probably be his last election.

South Carolina
Incumbent: Lindsey Graham (R)
A couple of years ago, I would have said he was another kinda reasonable Republican, but he has gone full on MEGA-CHUD over the last year or 2. I wouldn't be shocked if he took a major cabinet position, he has been playing super nice to Trump recently. AG maybe? Who knows? Hasn't faced a major challenge yet and probably wont in 2020.

South Dakota
Incumbent: Mike Rounds (R)
Former longtime SD governor, former Oil and Gas exec, very anti-choice, a bunch of scandals involving the selling of Visas while he was governor. Took over the seat when Tim Johnson (D) retired in 2014, won by 21% but there were a bunch of independents on the ballot who soaked up 20% of the vote. Could be a pickup spot with good recruiting

Tennessee
Incumbent: Lamar Alexander (R)
Big time rear end in a top hat, big player in the ACA repeal attempts. Will be 80 by the time 2020 gets here, so he might retire. Might be a winnable seat if the Dems can find a great recruit and Alexander retires, but don't get your hopes up.

Texas
Incumbent: John Cornyn (R)
Long time Texas good old boy, Ted Cruz without the negative charisma. Big time friend of Trump. I don't think there is anyone who could topple him in Texas. Gonna be stuck with this rear end in a top hat for another cycle or 2

Virginia
Incumbent: Mark Warner (D)
Moderate Democrat who has been very involved in the Trump Russia investigation. Voted to help weaken Dodd-Frank earlier this year. Expect him to see a big time primary from the left with all of the progressive momentum going on in Virginia. Virginia is a blue state now, so this will be a keeper, but there is an outside chance progressives manage to dethrone him.

West Virginia
Incumbent: Shelley Moore Capito (R)
Who gives a poo poo, its West Virginia. Even if a Dem does win here, they're gonna be another Manchin

Wyoming
Incumbent: Mike Enzi (R)
Very conservative back bencher, ACA repeal, more coal, privatizing social security and Medicare, huge Iraq war booster, supported constitutional amendments to ban flag burning and gay marriage. Just your typical rear end in a top hat republican who gets 70% of the vote every time he comes up for election.

So, 2 easy pickups, plus another 3-4 more if things go well

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 23:23

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I don�t think there�s a path to 50 there if we�re stuck at 46. We really want Sienna to pull it out in AZ and get us to 47. And Ughh Nelson losing by just 30,000 votes is maddening. If we had 48 right now we�d be in a great position to take control of everything in 2020.

It really sucks how badly we blew everything in 2016 because that should be our friendliest map

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 23:29

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

J.A.B.C. posted:

Sorry, was doing boring Army stuff and couldn't have my phone. What did I miss?

Sessions resigned/was fired, the new acting AG is a total chud, there are questions over how much authority he has over Mueller

# ¿ Nov 7, 2018 23:37

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Heck Yes! Loam! posted:

Can populated blue states start incentivizing moving to blood red states? If California give a democrat voter 10K to move to a red state in a red district, it could move some needles. It sounds really dumb, but this self sorting that the democrats have done is a huge problem.

You either win the rural vote by appealing to existing rural voters, or you make new rural voters.

What do you think happened to Nevada and Colorado? We're not paying people to leave, but its definitely happening as people leave for cheaper states

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 00:43

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

A big problem with the entire concept of trying to find a more progressive person to win the rust belt or trying to run to the center to win the rust belt is the news bubble. It doesn't matter if a candidate literally has a manufacturing job creating machine because a Republican voter is gonna get the majority of their news from Fox News (at best). So anything and everything will be spun into insanity, your blue dog will be painted a radical socialist, your progressive will have all of their good policy ignored. All they're gonna hear is "FEAR THEM! They're want to help the things we tell you to be afraid of! They're gonna take away you're healthcare, they're gonna kill jobs, they're gonna let brown people live near you!"

The news bubble is a huge problem that needs to be solved if you plan on trying to flip people back to Dems. And if you can't do that, then you're left with the Obama era plan of just trying to get your base out in the places where you have a large base, and we've seen that Dems need a 50 State plan to win and get poo poo done.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 01:22

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Zas posted:

At one point, people were saying that we could expect new investigations into Trump and perhaps GOP corruption if the democrats controlled the house. This now appears to not be the case, although maybe I am confused? Is this still something that is likely planned, or no?

No their still planning to do it, Maxine Waters is already planning to subpoena Trump's taxes and Schiff is already planning his gauntlet of subpoenas. Various other ones are getting ready to investigate the VA scandals and Wilbur Ross's poo poo. But Pelosi is saying that they're not planning to make up poo poo for the sake of investigating it and is talking about bipartisanship. And Impeachment is still off the table since it'll probably require almost 20 Senate Republicans to agree to kick him out of office.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 01:33

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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Do some of you honestly think that a poor person being told "hey you deserve healthcare, you can get a guaranteed job, you deserve dignity and not to be squeezed and commodified" is going to reject that message because the person saying it is racist and the message belongs to the political party that passed the Civil Rights Act?

Because if so...jeeeeeeeeez

They're gonna reject becuase Fox News will frame it as killing jobs (taxes for healthcare and infrastructure) and hurting them. Do you not remember how Fox News spent 4 years talking about the ACA Death Panels? It wasn't a nuanced discussion about why it would fail to control spiraling prescription prices or unable to stop the hospital consolidation. They weren't talking about how it was market based solution that was dependent on the cooperation of local states and buy-in from insurers who hated the mild limits on profit. It was all "Death Panels! They're gonna make you wait in line like in CANADA! Socialized medicine! Job killing taxes!"

The information bubble makes it hard to get the details of poo poo through to the target audience.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 01:44

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BlueberryCanary posted:

Sooooo is there a reason that neither this thread nor the Russia thread are discussing the fact that Jeff Sessions resigned earlier today at the behest of Trump, potentially putting the Mueller probe in danger?

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1060256623439110146

Because that's a thing that happened.

We already discussed it, but its hard to know the fallout yet. Its also not as dire as it would have been before, since House Dems can continue the investigation

Also, this is why we're talking about Beto so much
https://twitter.com/annehelen/status/1060287098052329472

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 01:50

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

quote:

�None of the above� tops list of potential 2020 Dems, poll shows

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/415500-biden-leads-dem-voters-list-of-potential-2020-contenders-poll

Choices were:
Warren: 4%
Biden: 25%
Bernie: 18%
Booker: 3%
Kamala Harris: 4%
Hillary Clinton: 12%
None of the above: 30%

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:02

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https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1060335677408243713

:thunk:

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:05

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Deified Data posted:

Not liking Biden at the top of this list.

Maybe I'm paranoid but I imagine the GOP has had a #metoo in their pocket with his name on it for years, waiting for the inevitable moment he ran.

He's also old and centrist as poo poo, but he has super high name recognition

I think the more interesting thing is that people don't really like any of those options. There will be space for someone else at the top of the ticket.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:06

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QuoProQuid posted:

this is just the opportunity that john delaney has been waiting for!

[Insert Jeb! map here]

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:10

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Trabisnikof posted:

Do we have reporting that Pelosi has the chair locked up? It seems foregone but outside validation is nice.

The only person who could have given her a challenge lost to AOC in the primary. The only dude left who is likely to try is a straightup blue dog.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:19

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Willa Rogers posted:

And yet: voters in three red states passed expanded medicaid yesterday.

Details of poo poo like "Here's your free healthcare! Now let's work to get all Americans what you wanted & voted for" can get through to voters when "let's have a market-based solution devised by the insurance industry that you won't be able to afford to use" doesn't.

But Medicaid expansion is a huge cornerstone of the ACA, it was gonna be mandatory for all states to expand it, but that part got wrecked by the Supreme Court.

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:27

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Hot take: Beto for DNC chair

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 02:51

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SoggyBobcat posted:

Look at the actual numbers, not just the percentages. There are literally tens of thousands of ballots in each race that have yet to be counted.

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1060370088933625856

Orange County (where there were a ton of dem pickup targets) has about 400K votes left to be counted

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 04:19

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Petr posted:

I just want someone to explain to me why Maryland re-elected Hogan.

I mean, I don't really, I know that the answer is the Eastern Shore.

Blue states love token, useless Republican governors. See Romney and Governator as examples

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 05:07

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Pollyanna posted:

McCaskill, Heitcamp, and Donnelly were poo poo, IIRC. At least one defended kabsanaugh. Losing debate seats hurts, but losing them...meh, good riddance.

They all voted against Kav, Manchin voted for Kav and won

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 05:08

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Petr posted:

Remember when I said that Jacob Wohl wasn't going to be arrested

When he didn't actually file a police report, its became unclear if he had broken any laws since its totally legal to be a huge dumbass

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 05:23

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# ¿ May 15, 2024 13:41

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Grognan posted:

why would tax returns matter? tax fraud dressed up is an accountant and paperwork. empower the IRS if you want poo poo to change

Its highly suspected that he was involved in a lot of Russian money laundering

# ¿ Nov 8, 2018 06:59

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