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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Assuming every race goes how the currently counted votes fall (and a few of them are too close for this to be guaranteed), the WA state legislature will be 57D 41R in the house, and 27D 22R in the senate (though one of those democrats caucuses with republicans making it more 26/23). A solid set of gains.

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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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What exactly happens during a machine recount that you believe the second time is more accurate than the first? Or is it just that if the result changes, that indicates you need a hand recount to figure it out?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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If there's another D+8-9 year he can force the Republican opponent to spend more money on his campaign and filter less to down-ticket races but yeah unless he's up against another pedophile (always possible) he's toast

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Roy Moore wouldn't win any primary against any sort of credible opponent. All Sessions or whoever would have to do is air ads saying "Moore lost, to a Democrat, in Alabama. He'll do it again if you let him"

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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I assume Alabama has plenty of ambitious state-level republicans I've never heard of to run against Sessions and Moore.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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I don't know how Dino hasn't been drummed out of republican politics yet. He's now lost four elections in a row and you just know he'll end up running for and losing like county executive or something

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Him running this year isn't necessarily a dumbass decision because I don't know what the republican bench is like in the 8th and he at least has name recognition. But running him for senate in 2010? Like, there's no ambitious eastern washington republican who doesn't have the stench of failure on their name?

Plus they keep appointing him to fill state senate vacancies. It's clear that the washington republican party is still enamored of him for some reason

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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OAquinas posted:

Alabama almost elected a child molester to the senate.

Personal history doesn't matter, just team affiliation.

...plus it helps that the florida democratic party is only slightly more lively than a fish that's been on the dock for 20 minutes.

When the scandal broke Moore dropped about ten points, candidate quality absolutely does matter, at least when it's at the extremes

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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I remember 538 doing a thing saying that Alabama is 30 points more republican than the nation. The 30 point swing could roughly be divided into 10 points from the generic congressional ballot, 10 points from candidate quality pre-scandal (because Moore was polling 20 points below what you'd expect, not just 10), and 10 from him being a pedophile. It makes sense that the swing came from undecideds rather than republicans but a swing is a swing.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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UCS Hellmaker posted:

All of northern ohio and franklin county is horrid.

Do images not work when uploaded now?



You need to link to the image, not the imgur album

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Yeah I'd hold off on calling Florida lost until we find out if the newly-enfranchised felons vote or not

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Or they'll just start relying on good old voter suppression now that relying on disenfranchisement is harder

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Isn't the panhandle high enough elevation that Florida the state will continue to exist no problem? Not that nearly as many people will be living there

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Washington just passed a pretty cool family and medical leave bill. Functions sort of like social security except it pays off when you have a sick family member or new baby instead of when you're old. 0.2% of your pay (split between you and your employer) goes in and then the program pays you 90% of your normal salary when you take time off.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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You'd think that by 2018 politicians would have realized that more people than the intended recipient can read their twitter

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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I know DC statehood is mostly being pushed to help balance the senate map, but from a pure enfranchisement standpoint I think offering all of the DC territory outside of the mall to Maryland or Virginia is a better option

Puerto Rico should absolutely be a state though even setting the senate aside

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They should probably both be states, but the case for making D.C. a state is huge.

D.C. just overwhelmingly (85+%) voted to become a state in 2016.

Puerto Rico is murkier. Statehood probably has close to majority support, but it isn't as definitive as D.C.

Plus, D.C. is in the mainland US and subject to federal income taxes and laws in ways that Puerto Rico isn't. It is pretty bonkers that you can drive down the freeway in the United States of America and no longer be in a state.

I mean it just feels weird to have a state whose borders are smaller than a single metro area. The people living there should absolutely be in a state though and if there's something I'm missing about why merging it into one of the adjacent states is a bad idea then I'm happy to be wrong

Peurto Rico is just a weird edge case in general that probably should have become a state at the same time as Hawaii and Alaska but now we've had close to 60 years with 50 stars on the flag and resistance to change is high

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Doing a quick check it sounds like any law that makes most of DC its own state or part of Maryland, but excises a small region around the white house and capitol to remain a federal district, would give that tiny district three electors in presidential elections as per the 23rd amendment. Cleaning up that situation would require a constitutional amendment I assume

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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SoggyBobcat posted:

Michigan just had its congressional and legislative maps struck down as illegal partisan gerrymanders.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1121491023442534400

It looks like that's a state court decision, is that right? So no implications for any other gerrymandered states

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Lambert posted:

How does that square with freedom of speech?

Money is only speech if you're a billionaire or billion dollar company

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Today is also primary day in WA. Make sure to mail your ballots in before the mail is picked up, or drop it off in a ballot box.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Seattle is losing its socialist city council member

Her opponent was being funneled money by Amazon hard and ran a really scummy campaign and I guess it worked

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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I cannot say "gently caress Tim Eyman" emphatically enough

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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There's a plausible argument to be made that the states of a federation should have miniature versions of the federal government to ease the understandability of politics, but on the other hand even with that state politics is still way different from federal, and if you took that to its logical conclusion county and city governments ought to be bicameral as well.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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There's an argument to be made that isn't entirely stupid on it's face that dividing government between a branch that's very responsive to the current mood, and one that changes a bit more slowly, has some advantages. I don't know that I buy that argument, but a bicameral legislature isn't like, completely ridiculous in my mind.

cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Nov 6, 2019

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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well you had to make concessions to the small states when you were trying to convince 13 more or less independent sovereign nations to give up their sovereignty to a federation

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Ok, here's the plan:
House:
One representative for every 100,000 people. Geographically distributed into compact, contiguous (within reason, it's gonna get weird with islands) districts of approximately equal population across the US. Voting method: you have to get 100 signatures within your district to run, and each voter gets to cast one ballot that acts as a raffle ticket for the candidate of their choice, who is then chosen randomly.

Senate:

Every voter can join one "community" of their choice, with the consent of that community, or can be their own community of one. These communities represent micro-electoral coalitions.

Communities can set their own rules, although they can't keep people from leaving or joining other communities.

Each community can likewise join a community, and so on.
The top 100 top level communities (i.e., aren't members of another community) by membership get to pick a senator.

Suppose me and 8 other people in the country start talking and want to form a community called 'cool spot snes fan club', our electoral power is 9.

Over time, we join some larger coalition of SNES fan groups, and that group ends up joining others until eventually we end up with a senator.

One day, the 'cool spot genesis/megadrive' club contacts us and says, why don't you instead join the cool spot club, alongside 'cool spot game boy fan club' and others.

We agree, and our 9 votes move to the other tree, possibly shifting the totals at the very top.

this system seems extremely gameable

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Yeah the senate is rarely the deciding factor in the electoral college. Winner-takes-all is a bigger issue than the non-proportional vote counts.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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OhFunny posted:

https://twitter.com/GoldyHA/status/...ingawful.com%2F

The ballots are still being counted, but it looks like she's on track to top the Amazon guy.

hell yeah

shame about our state's roads still but I'll take it

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Apparently this happened in her first election too

socialists mail their ballots in at the last minute, apparently

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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I voted the Saturday before election day cause I had a bunch of errands to do and just added voting to the list of things I had to get done that day

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Are the Dem majorities really that large or at all of these getting a reasonable number of R votes?

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Seattle just passed a bill preventing low income people from being evicted during winter months. Should hopefully keep some people from freezing

Being touted as the first bill of its kind but I don't know if that's an exaggeration or not

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cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

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Grouchio posted:

How's Minneapolis doing two weeks after disbanding it's police?

they didn't

they held a vote indicating city council's non-binding desire to disband the police. Following through requires the slow, painful process of writing legislation and a popular referendum to modify the city charter to eliminate the obligation to fund the police at a certain level

they've started the legislative crafting last I heard

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