Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
No maybe about it. He's the defending champ it's not on him to take the risks imo.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

I think Carlsen is content with draws for now because he'd be happy to go to the rapid/blitz tiebreakers, and Caruana is happy with draws for now because his strategy is probably to go for a single win in one of the late games. No point in him waking the sleeping dragon yet. I predict more boring games for a while, and then Caruana goes for something new and risky he's prepared around game 9.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
I have a feeling Carlsen might try something when he has white twice in a row for games 6 and 7, because I think he will want to have an advantage by game 12 since if they're tied at 5.5-5.5 and Fabi has the white pieces in the last game who knows what could happen.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Fairly interesting game today. Caruana is up a pawn at move 20 but Carlsen has a better position, including an active King and the Bishop pair while Caruana only has his dark squared Bishop. Judging by the previous games a quick draw is never the less my prediction.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Magnus's favorite player from the past?

https://mobile.twitter.com/olimpiuurcan/status/1063138642313375744

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




I'M Guramishvilli on chess24:

"...uh...what just happened?"

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




What the poo poo is this game???

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
It is the platonic spirit of e4e5:
Go through some crazy looking but straightforward sequence.
Go directly to a queenless endgame.
Draw.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Piece sacrifice into an unbalanced endgame. Still objectively a draw, but by no means a guarantee on either side.

Of note is that Caruana doesn't have the correct bishop for the corner.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Drawish

But tricky.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
If this kind of position occurred between unrated players I would give it similar chances of winning, but a low chance of a draw.

Though again, black is the one with the slight advantage. Pretty interesting, that trend. I blame excessive preparation.

e: with the pawn sacrifice at a5 it now almost looks like a reversal of Carlson-Nakamura at the sinquefield cup.

VictualSquid fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 16, 2018

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
a5 is Magnus claiming he has a fortress.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
Stockfish is freaking out

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
People in the chess24 chat are claiming that there was a win for black at move 67, but black missed it. Seems very, uh, theoretical.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Hand Knit posted:

People in the chess24 chat are claiming that there was a win for black at move 67, but black missed it. Seems very, uh, theoretical.

Stockfish announced mate in 30 after Carlsen played Kg6 and then I guess Caruana didn't do whatever Stockfish wanted because then it switched to mate in 63 and then it went back to slight advantage for black.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

vyelkin posted:

Stockfish announced mate in 30 after Carlsen played Kg6 and then I guess Caruana didn't do whatever Stockfish wanted because then it switched to mate in 63 and then it went back to slight advantage for black.

Next stop move 114, I guess.

e: I can actually see this game creating one of those stealth repetitions. Like not the same position three times consecutively, but distributed over 10-20 moves.

e2: Yeah, looks like Grischuk has identified a position triple repetition.

Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Nov 16, 2018

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


And now we're into theoretical draw territory. RIP. He should've had this.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
And it's in the books. Probably a large number of books.

And Grischuk gives the final word: "And every Friday I'm wasted like poo poo."

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Teddybear posted:

And now we're into theoretical draw territory. RIP. He should've had this.

Oh man I don't know about that.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
If you can't calculate forced mate in 63, can you even call yourself a super GM?

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


Okay, well, maybe "should've had this" is a bit strong. But it felt like he was always perpetually on the verge of victory. I guess that's to Carlsen's credit, then.

It'll be a bit of a bummer if this is decided by speed chess.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

vyelkin posted:

If you can't calculate forced mate in 63, can you even call yourself a super GM?

https://twitter.com/USChess/status/1063551897053929472

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Dan King explains the forced Checkmate.

It's pretty inhuman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_gFvpt33E

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Loving this poo poo, looking forward to today.

grah
Jul 26, 2007
brainsss
Highlight of yesterday was definitely Grischuk going on like a 20 minute tangent about bullet arenas just to make a "Giri Draws" barb.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Caruana might have something here.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Certainly aggressive.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

grah posted:

Highlight of yesterday was definitely Grischuk going on like a 20 minute tangent about bullet arenas just to make a "Giri Draws" barb.

I hope someone makes a compilation of Grischuk stuff from the commentary, been watching his banter blitz on youtube and he's great.

Dancer
May 23, 2011
Quick note for who isn't following via chess 24, the stream has consistently gotten better throughout the match. The hosts were a bit awkward at the beginning, and Sopiko was kinda side-lined a lot (partially understandable I guess, the two others are simply better players) but now they've all gotten used to each other as a group, and also figured out a way to treat Sopiko's contributions more seriously (even though there are still occasions where she suggests something that's "obviously wrong" to the others).

Omnikin
May 29, 2007

Press 'E' for Medic
I'm in love with Rensch, Hess & Hikaru currently so shoutout to the chess.com stream

Also feels like Fabi is fuckin shook right now

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


I used to like Chessbrahs but man, comparing their production quality to the Chess.com stream, there's no contest about which I'd rather watch

I mean sure they have an extremely smaller budget but still

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
h3 :(

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Yeah rip

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
https://twitter.com/SusanPolgar/status/1065187711395483648

Combat chess, down to the wire.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp
Talk about an own goal.

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


What do the super computers say about playing soccer on your day off?

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
This is not what white would conventionally want out of an opening, but if Caruana is already using time then Carlsen probably has roughly what he wants. It's an unbalanced position, not immediately simplifying, and has options for play. Now if you could just tell me what Carlsen does about Nc4 plans.

e: Giri: "Go Premium. Unmute the Grischuk."

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Grischuk: "You know, on a weak engine this is the first line."
Giri: "Hey, you got a weak engine."
Svidler: "This is the highest complement I've been paid in a while."

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Hand Knit posted:

Grischuk: "You know, on a weak engine this is the first line."
Giri: "Hey, you got a weak engine."
Svidler: "This is the highest complement I've been paid in a while."

Lol

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
Complete meltdown in the Grischuk household right now.

  • Locked thread