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And we've reached the Svidler referencing loss part of the broadcast.
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# ? Nov 21, 2018 19:08 |
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Hand Knit posted:And we've reached the Svidler referencing loss part of the broadcast. *Mis*referencing it, mind you. "Probably only my son would get this, and I mean only him, not even me, because he's the one who explained it to me in the first place".
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# ? Nov 21, 2018 19:13 |
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Drone posted:I used to like Chessbrahs but man, comparing their production quality to the Chess.com stream, there's no contest about which I'd rather watch They are much better when they have Yasser, but it is still my goto because they don't allow engine evals.
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# ? Nov 21, 2018 20:12 |
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Back to the Sveshnikov. It feels pretty double-edged (move 19), but still that Carlsen is better if he navigates it. e: "To me chess is a constant struggle between the desire not to lose and the desire not to think." Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 22, 2018 |
# ? Nov 22, 2018 17:31 |
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On 21.Kh1, the Svidler/Giri/Grischuk team has found 21...b5!!. It sacrifices a pawn and gives white an advanced passer, with the trade-off of clearing out white's defensive rook on a3. I hope he goes for it.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 17:56 |
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He's going for it. Fabi's in a bad way right now
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 18:13 |
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Omnikin posted:He's going for it. Fabi's in a bad way right now He did. Still probably remis, but now that I've said that it probably won't be.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 18:21 |
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Omnikin posted:He's going for it. Fabi's in a bad way right now And then Carlsen blunders a pawn. I suspect that Caruana has enough time to confirm that he can take on b5 and not die.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 18:42 |
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Things are happening!
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 19:15 |
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Syncopated posted:Things are happening! Things seem to have largely ceased happening.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 19:58 |
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Things aren't happening in a really tense way. It's probably a draw. Probably.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 20:04 |
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Jonny Nox posted:Things aren't happening in a really tense way. This position is a gift to the broadcasters as a revenge against the people who just sit there and read off computer evals.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 20:16 |
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Re Misérables
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 21:22 |
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Nice piece of fish posted:Re Misérables Carlsen is blundering and Caruana is playing with total cowardice.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 21:22 |
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Keep playing you cowards! Edit:
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 21:24 |
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Hand Knit posted:Carlsen is blundering and Caruana is playing with total cowardice. Carlsen is deffo doing that thing where he sometimes takes dumb chances in some sort of mental game I assume and Caruana is playing like a guy who doesn't need to win during these rounds and can totally go toe-to-toe with Carlsen during the lightning rounds and such. Which, you know, might not be the case.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 21:32 |
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Nice piece of fish posted:Carlsen is deffo doing that thing where he sometimes takes dumb chances in some sort of mental game I call that the Carlsen effect where Magnus can take big gambles because 1)he's Magnus Carlsen and can probably play accurately enough to last until his opponent mis-plays his advantage and 2)his opponent knows they're playing Magnus Carlsen and will often scare themself into playing right into Magnus's hands. I thought Caruana wouldn't be affected by this since he's a really good analytical player and their ratings are so close Carlsen shouldn't appear that big of a monster. I also can't help but feel if the final position were reversed, Carlsen would have played until either the extra pawn was well and truly stopped or he was forced to take the rooks off the board. It's been a really long tournament for both players though, so the actual situation over the board probably seems a lot different for both players than a couple weeks ago.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 21:53 |
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Caruana is playing like he's confident he can out-prepare Carlsen but not at all confident that he can outplay him over the board, so once Carlsen refutes his preparation and he has to think for himself he's happy to settle for a draw and hope to get a big enough preparation advantage for a win next time.
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# ? Nov 22, 2018 21:55 |
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Next game
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 17:30 |
Just looked and oh is that opposite square bishops, only pawns elsewise, and therefore clearly a draw? Great, wonderful.
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 17:41 |
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silvergoose posted:Just looked and oh is that opposite square bishops, only pawns elsewise, and therefore clearly a draw? Analysis team is focusing on "so let's say that black's king is permanently locked out of the position and white can make multiple moves in a row, can white win then?"
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 18:19 |
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Look at how the game ended, I've won that endgame before. Mind you, it was against a player not quite as good as Caruana.
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 19:11 |
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Everytime the play goes back to Caruana I'm reminded of Finegold's line that if you spend more than 20 minutes on a move, you aren't finding the best move.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:03 |
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This is Caruana's last chance, right? If this goes to the tiebreakers, he can't keep up with Carlsen in the shorter time controls.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:09 |
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I don't understand that narrative at all. If Carlsen was that much better, it wouldn't be 5.5-5.5. Just decide this with a coinflip and save us all from the tedium.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:12 |
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:I don't understand that narrative at all. If Carlsen was that much better, it wouldn't be 5.5-5.5. Just decide this with a coinflip and save us all from the tedium. The narrative comes from the fact that they're #1 and #2 in the world in standard time format but Carlsen is also #1 in the world in rapid and blitz while Caruana is #10 in rapid and #18 in blitz. Like Caruana is clearly still a good player in the fast time formats and maybe can even get an advantage in some fast games because of his insane preparation, but he just doesn't think as fast as Carlsen does so it's more likely that Carlsen would win once the game gets out of prep.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:17 |
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Teddybear posted:This is Caruana's last chance, right? If this goes to the tiebreakers, he can't keep up with Carlsen in the shorter time controls.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:21 |
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It reminds me of every game in this match, except in reverse. Mostly we got Magnus using lots of time to gain a minuscule advantage in the opening, which he loses in moves 20-40. Now we have the players switching time management strategies.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:22 |
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The game is interesting, but I'm still here for Giri and Grischuk turning to roasting Svidler already.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:35 |
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Caruana really trying to avoid the tiebreaks here
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:40 |
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gently caress was that rook move?
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:46 |
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Nice piece of fish posted:gently caress was that rook move? Want a rook on the c-file, and don't want to give up the ability to castle long just yet.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 17:47 |
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It's a wild position but once against Carlsen is less than precise. Still looks like he holds the balance, though. e: Grischuk with the good point that given the match and clock situation, Carlsen is probably looking to solidify the position with a slight plus with initiative. Caruana will have to play quite precisely under a lot of pressure. Hand Knit fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Nov 26, 2018 |
# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:19 |
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White's King looks vaguely vulnerable, I hope something happens... If this goes to an armageddon match after halving every game this world championship will undoubtedly go down as the worst ever. It definitely lowers the status of the champion.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:48 |
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Flayer posted:White's King looks vaguely vulnerable, I hope something happens... There's 10 ratings poits between them. There's no reason either shouldn't be world champion. FIDE should probably continue thinking about how they set up WCC Tournaments in a post computer analysis world. No idea what to chamge though.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:53 |
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What is striking about this match, and makes it feel different from Carlsen-Karjakin, is that the quality of game seems quite low. This was most notable in game 10, but generally these games haven't seemed necessarily drawn. Rather, they're drawn because Caruana is passive and Carlsen is inaccurate.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:57 |
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Jonny Nox posted:There's 10 ratings poits between them. There's no reason either shouldn't be world champion.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 18:58 |
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welp to tie breakers we go
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:07 |
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WTF Magnus? Offering a draw with the positional advantage and the time advantage?
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:07 |
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What the gently caress.
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# ? Nov 26, 2018 19:07 |