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Weird that Carlsen didn't win yesterday. I'm watching Finegold cover it today because I found the chess.com guys yesterday to be solid but kinda boring and I unironically love watching Finegold make the same five jokes over and over again in the most sarcastic voice imaginable.
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Teddybear posted:I like to pop in during the WCC and pretend that I know chess at all. From what I've seen from commentary, it looks like Carlsen is steering them towards another draw with those last couple moves? My understanding is it's a drawn position but Carlsen likes to keep playing drawn positions to see if he can eke out a marginal advantage and go for the win.
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Nov 10, 2018 18:37
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They called it, draw confirmed.
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Nov 10, 2018 19:11
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Drone posted:Have there been any real, highlight "wow!" moments so far? Carlsen was really dominant for like the first 30 moves in game 1 and that was a wow moment but then he decided to draw instead of winning and since then it's been pretty careful and even.
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Nov 13, 2018 12:01
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I'm watching Finegold on Twitch right now so  https://www.twitch.tv/gmbenjaminfinegold
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Nov 13, 2018 17:50
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If he does, he decided not to show it. Draw agreed.
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Nov 13, 2018 18:45
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I have a feeling Carlsen might try something when he has white twice in a row for games 6 and 7, because I think he will want to have an advantage by game 12 since if they're tied at 5.5-5.5 and Fabi has the white pieces in the last game who knows what could happen.
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Nov 14, 2018 05:45
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Stockfish is freaking out
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Nov 16, 2018 22:11
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Hand Knit posted:People in the chess24 chat are claiming that there was a win for black at move 67, but black missed it. Seems very, uh, theoretical. Stockfish announced mate in 30 after Carlsen played Kg6 and then I guess Caruana didn't do whatever Stockfish wanted because then it switched to mate in 63 and then it went back to slight advantage for black.
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Nov 16, 2018 22:15
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If you can't calculate forced mate in 63, can you even call yourself a super GM?
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Nov 16, 2018 22:42
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Caruana is playing like he's confident he can out-prepare Carlsen but not at all confident that he can outplay him over the board, so once Carlsen refutes his preparation and he has to think for himself he's happy to settle for a draw and hope to get a big enough preparation advantage for a win next time.
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Nov 22, 2018 21:55
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:I don't understand that narrative at all. If Carlsen was that much better, it wouldn't be 5.5-5.5. Just decide this with a coinflip and save us all from the tedium. The narrative comes from the fact that they're #1 and #2 in the world in standard time format but Carlsen is also #1 in the world in rapid and blitz while Caruana is #10 in rapid and #18 in blitz. Like Caruana is clearly still a good player in the fast time formats and maybe can even get an advantage in some fast games because of his insane preparation, but he just doesn't think as fast as Carlsen does so it's more likely that Carlsen would win once the game gets out of prep.
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Nov 26, 2018 17:17
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Caruana really trying to avoid the tiebreaks here
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Nov 26, 2018 17:40
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That was really weird. I guess Carlsen couldn't see a way through despite clearly being better.
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Nov 26, 2018 19:08
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Just make them play forever until someone gets, I dunno, five wins but remove money from the prize pool for every game they play after the tenth.
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Nov 26, 2018 19:45
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In case anyone's curious just how good Carlsen is at fast time controls, here's a video of him playing 30-second games in a 1-minute bullet tournament. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTEj4moaay0
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Nov 27, 2018 12:09
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Ben Finegold is the best chess person on the internet and while I agree his lectures are better than his streams, the hardest I ever saw him concentrate was in a stream where he was trying really hard to get 9 queens without accidentally checkmating his opponent.
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Nov 27, 2018 17:02
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Hand Knit posted:Nb7 passive defence does not seem very optimistic, even if it holds for now. Not played anyway, Fabi's made an inaccuracy here
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Nov 28, 2018 16:33
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Carlsen's now down 5 minutes on time! 
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Nov 28, 2018 16:49
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Carlsen wins, finally shows his legendary endgame skills. Finegold was confused the whole time.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:08
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Nice piece of fish posted:How so? I mean I'm very impressed with Caruana so far. And Carlsen, I mean... He's pretty scary to play against. He's seemed really out of sorts for a lot of the match, not playing the way he would have three or four years ago. e: Carlsen I mean
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Nov 28, 2018 17:30
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Hand Knit posted:I feel like 2014 Carlsen would've been around +4 with the way things have gone. Yeah, really hard to predict for the whole match because 2014 Carlsen almost certainly would have won the first game and who knows how the match would have gone after that.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:35
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Caruana seems to have blundered again.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:57
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Caruana let time run down and then resigned.
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Nov 28, 2018 18:06
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The rapids are really exposing how once Caruana gets out of his insane engine prep he's simply not as good as Carlsen.
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Nov 28, 2018 18:09
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Nice piece of fish posted:A lot of people have been expecting exactly this scenario though. Yeah I'd say that was pretty apparent in hindsight given the comment he made in the press conference after game 12 along the lines of "we play to the rules they give us, if they give us different rules we'll play differently". If he's this much better at rapid, which he clearly is, there's no reason not to play for 12 draws and then destroy Caruana in three hours afterwards.
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Nov 28, 2018 18:20
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Ding Liren is good and not boring. If you check out the game where he finally lost to MVL, he plays like a crazy person instead of like someone who's trying not to lose so he can keep his streak going.
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Nov 29, 2018 05:35
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